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    Game to easy?

    Is it just me but its kinda of boring just clicking on the recomended stuff to build... Whats the point of that if it already tells us what we should build... I mean all i do is just keep passing turns and clicking the recomended buttons... Theres somthing im missing right

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    Well, the recommended buttons only tell you one improvement that can be built.

    The larger meaning of the game lies in making your own decisions on what to build and when based on the situation and what you want to achieve. Sometimes doing what the comp says, sometimes saying "you don't know **** mr. comp., i'm gonna do this instead".
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    Its _advising_ you, not demanding you play that way. Often times what the advisor want isn't anywhere close to what I want, I ignore them completely in my games. I mean the advisor usually wants to build national wonders or military units while i'm trying to build up income/convert other civs because it has no idea of my strategy. So what you need, is a strategy, or just an overall plan. Play the game, don't let it play you. :P
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    And as the difficulty level goes up, you can't sit there hitting enter at the end of every turn. You actually have to do something

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    Is there a way to turn off the advisors?

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    You LISTEN to the build adviser?

    Most of the time it is wayyyyyyyyyyyy off in my opinion. Just like autoworker and suggestion in where to place your city.

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    Advice is mostly decorative.

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    Game to easy?
    Spelling too easy?

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    Re: Game to easy?

    Originally posted by cursvie
    Is it just me but its kinda of boring just clicking on the recomended stuff to build... Whats the point of that if it already tells us what we should build... I mean all i do is just keep passing turns and clicking the recomended buttons... Theres somthing im missing right
    Oh, man, I wish i would have seen this 5 seconds ago...

    I totally feel your pain. This game is so dissapointing I'm nearing uninstallation of it and putting civ3 back on and just play at a harder level.

    All I do is press the space bar...nothing happens. No wars, no volcanos, no barbarians, no anything but pressing the space bar....

    such a lackluster game....this will surely be the last in the series, sadly.

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    You guys do realize there's a half dozen difficulty levels right? And the Aggressive AI option in custom games...

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    Originally posted by Mike4879
    You guys do realize there's a half dozen difficulty levels right? And the Aggressive AI option in custom games...
    Don't forget the raging barbarian option, didn't somebody post a screen shot of a barbarian city which had managed to build the Colossus?
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    Press escape
    Chose options
    uncheck all advisory checkboxes
    play your own game
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    Listening advisors was for me a good way to learn to play Civ1 (1991) while I was kid (11+ years).

    But when you get good enough to win on average difficulties, you really need to play better then "advisors" in order to win.

    So I guess same applies to Civ4, advisors there are to help new players, and to advise good players if there are missing something, but they are not there to play for you.

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    People must know their englisheven if i'm french canadian)

    It's the very defination of the word:

    ad·vis·er or ad·vi·sor Audio pronunciation of "advisor" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-vzr)
    n.

    1. One that advises, such as a person or firm that offers official or professional advice to clients.
    2. An educator who advises students in academic and personal matters.

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    I often see what he advise me to do, and i decide If it's a good idea... like I said before. The only thing I miss, it's the domestic advisor and the millitary advisor of civ3!!!!!


    Originally posted by player1
    Listening advisors was for me a good way to learn to play Civ1 (1991) while I was kid (11+ years).

    But when you get good enough to win on average difficulties, you really need to play better then "advisors" in order to win.

    So I guess same applies to Civ4, advisors there are to help new players, and to advise good players if there are missing something, but they are not there to play for you.
    bleh

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    Re: Game to easy?

    Originally posted by cursvie
    Is it just me but its kinda of boring just clicking on the recomended stuff to build... Whats the point of that if it already tells us what we should build... I mean all i do is just keep passing turns and clicking the recomended buttons... Theres somthing im missing right
    Also, in the options, there is a specific option to turn off worker recommendations, so what's the problem?

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    Re: Game to easy?

    Originally posted by cursvie
    Is it just me but its kinda of boring just clicking on the recomended stuff to build... Whats the point of that if it already tells us what we should build... I mean all i do is just keep passing turns and clicking the recomended buttons... Theres somthing im missing right

    You know you're allowed to make your own descisions, right?
    This space is empty... or is it?

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    Don't forget the raging barbarian option, didn't somebody post a screen shot of a barbarian city which had managed to build the Colossus?
    They did that in one of my games too! Imagine how shocked I was when I found a level 10 babarian city with a colloseum, walls and even the Colossus build in the harbour... So I nuked 'em.
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    Originally posted by cronos_qc
    People must know their englisheven if i'm french canadian)

    It's the very defination of the word:

    ad·vis·er or ad·vi·sor Audio pronunciation of "advisor" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-vzr)
    n.

    1. One that advises, such as a person or firm that offers official or professional advice to clients.
    2. An educator who advises students in academic and personal matters.

    =========

    I often see what he advise me to do, and i decide If it's a good idea... like I said before. The only thing I miss, it's the domestic advisor and the millitary advisor of civ3!!!!!

    HAHA tres bien monseuir...hahaha

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    Using the advisors as an absolute guideline = never getting past Noble, if even there.
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    Exactly.
    That means playing as good as AI on Noble.

    Still, good for first steps in the game.

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    Re: Re: Game to easy?

    Originally posted by mikeasdf


    Oh, man, I wish i would have seen this 5 seconds ago...

    I totally feel your pain. This game is so dissapointing I'm nearing uninstallation of it and putting civ3 back on and just play at a harder level.

    All I do is press the space bar...nothing happens. No wars, no volcanos, no barbarians, no anything but pressing the space bar....

    such a lackluster game....this will surely be the last in the series, sadly.
    Uh??? Well i guess me and you don't see the same...i see a fresh start in what was the only direction civ had to go ; ''new ground''. They redo much and the result is beautiful....one could say that in some region they oversimplify it but hey it's the 2000 era where one must make it easy to sell a lot....those poor kids out there want to win at all cost...it was that or include cheat code for infinite production and gold....

    Most advisor option lead to an arm conflict....wich isn't the best way to win imho....maybe at settler it's ok but let's face it at settler the AI is so stupid it's damn hard to lose....but go up a little and tell me again all you did was click and spacebar......and then died....

    So much to choose...wich science to research first?? What approach will you choose..space? UN vote? War?..no idle clicking for me....

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    This totally cracks me up. Claiming that there is nothing to do in Civ4 or any Civ game... hehe, talk about not getting the whole point of a game .

    Start a game on Pangaea on Immortal and see if that's what you would call "easy". If all you're doing is follow AI recommendations, that means you can hardly beat Noble, if that.

    If you want more action, toggle the Aggressive AI option and see the wars flow. Or combine that with Raging Barbarians!
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    Originally posted by CyberShy
    Press escape
    Chose options
    uncheck all advisory checkboxes
    play your own game
    I did that, but it didn't turn off the recommendations for new technologies and new city buildings. You know, the blue text in parantheses "recommended (Military)".

    I know it's only a recommendation, but I noticed I'm getting influenced far too much by it. I guess I have to be forced to think for myself. *g*

    Does anyone know how to turn those off?

    Thanks in advance.

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    I guess I'm a bad civ player. I actually had to go down a notch in game level. I used to be a player that focuses on conquest/domination.

    I also used to automate all my workers and city governors. Now I am trying to do everything myself. Turns take 10x longer now. I sit there pondering stuff like windmill or mine... engineer specialist or merchant?

    I know this is a new game, but its like a "whole new game" compared to civ 3 for me. Even in civ 3 I hardly ever built specialists ( maybe an entertainer here and there...), or cared about terrain improvments, as long as my cities were not destroying building I built for them and kicking out modern armor in a timely fasson, we all got along.

    Civ 4 opened up a whole new world of gaming depth for me.

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