Reply With QuoteThe gameplay is good. If you can get to it, that is.
I'm enjoying playing the game between the stuttering animations and 1.5 second delay between me issuing commands and the game doing anything.
Well, so far it has.
I won't go into how I get hte blue screen of death on my crappy windownsXP for the first time EVER...
I'll just simply say that this is the biggest dissapointment...
The gameplay is good. If you can get to it, that is.
I'm enjoying playing the game between the stuttering animations and 1.5 second delay between me issuing commands and the game doing anything.
I'm liking the game so far.
Religion is very fun.
I built the Oracle and was able to get Theology as a free tech. I then founded Chistianity as my religion. Well, I got a missionary and sent him to the Egyptian's capital and now they are Christian too!
Also, I just got a Great Prophet and built the Church of the Nativity with him.
This is great!
I am really enjoying myself. This is definitely much more fun than I had with Civ 3.
What kind of systems are you guys running Civ4 on? Maybe that is your problem?
Points and laughs at those who bought Civ 4 immediately only to be disappointed.
This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
Sava found religion
Most people are having loads of fun with it, some just are havin a bit of bad luck.
Your loss MrUnfun.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus
*Points to bad CD disk.*
You know, its been about a thousand game disks since I had a bad one out of the package! That was certainly years ago. It's just Firaxis luck that it would be them that had to be the next "out of the factory broken" item.
I'm not going to cry though... got GC2 Beta 4 coming out tomorrow (or maybe early friday morning at latest), so I'll have something new and interesting to occupy me this weekend anyways, while I get the bad CD sorted out.
-Darkstar
(Knight Errant Of Spam)
Originally posted by alva
Most people are having loads of fun with it, some just are havin a bit of bad luck.
Your loss MrUnfun.
By waiting to hear from others about the flaws of this game, and to decide next month whether it's worth it to buy the game after a good patch is available you can call me MrWise, not MrUnFun.
This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
May be wise, but far too safe and careful to be fun.Originally posted by MrFun
By waiting to hear from others about the flaws of this game, and to decide next month whether it's worth it to buy the game after a good patch is available you can call me MrWise, not MrUnFun.
Leave me alone and go back to playing your bugged-version of Civ 4.Originally posted by Disk Killer
May be wise, but far too safe and careful to be fun.
This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
Originally posted by Berzerker
Sava found religion
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Firaxis can't be too pleased with whoever produced the packaging and discs... from the French tech tree to the bad CD's-- those kinds of errors should almost never happen. As thoroughly as the game is playtested, to have problems arising from the packaging is just the sorriest kind of mistake.
So other people are having issues with the CD, spcifically?
That's pesonally what I think it is, because when the game does load it works just great, but the whole stupid having to use the CD to load the game is just killing me.
I'm very ticked off to be honest.
First of all, one box of mine has a 64mb video card and I barely got the game to work, then another box of mine witha 64mb VC (though diff brand) got the game playing, but sounded like the box was going to blow. NOw, I go and get a 128mb VC and the game ismuch smoother, but it won't load cuz I get atapi.sys erros and the blue screen. Atapi is for the CD rom, so I don't know if it's bad code, or bad CDs, but I'd sure like to know if anyone else is having issues actually starting the game.
I'm a little less pist off now, since I played the game for a few minutes. But, then, I close the game and my comptuer suddenly restarted! Honestly, if I could get my money back I would, but if I open the CD-rom package I can't...perhaps in-store exchange.
Why can't you get your money back? If its a bad CD, that's a product fault. Should be fine to return. Just tell them your system either cannot read the CD, or has errors and stutters while trying to read it. They'll probably offer you an even exchange... which, if you want to play Civ4, you should take.
Of course, you can always contact Firaxis about it, and get a refund from them. They made a lot of noise over the years that if people had problems with Civ or hated it that much, contact them and send in the game for an actual refund. If they really mean it, there's a refund (for the loss of shipping it to them).
-Darkstar
(Knight Errant Of Spam)
2 or 3 times when it played the "wonder-videos" my dvd-player stuck somehow. I am not sure if the problem was the anti-virus in the background or if it was the dvd.Originally posted by mikeasdf
So other people are having issues with the CD, spcifically?
Any of you with problems reading the CD's have any issues with the copy protection scheme used with other games?
I know Safedisk has or had, problems in the past with certain brands of CD/DVD drives, but that's usually solved by people updating the drivers for their hardware (typical pretty much).
Expecting a modern game to work on a 64 MB video card, the -minimum- not even recommended card, doesn't sound like it's the developers fault now does it? A good 128 MB card can be had very cheaply compared to prices 4-5 years ago.
Install the DirectX FROM THE CD, it's a slightly different version than the standard, and update your drivers, all of them, and see if that works.
And yes, the vast majority, 99%+, of all modern games require the disk to be in the drive to start the game generally. If you're not used to that then 1) you only play really old games, or 2) you don't usually -buy- the games you play.
it shouldnt be necessary to have the cd to play in this day and age. its only a very stupid way of copy protecting games and inconvenient for the player.
and not 99% of games require the cd.
world of warcraft, all paradox games, civ3 (or did i crack it cause I got fed up, dont remember), rome total war, and many others dont have cd requirements for start.
seriously, its not a commodore 64. nothing is read off the cd is it? and if it is, i've got room on my drive.
why bother us with it?
regardless, no-cd cracks will come soon and the problem will then be solved.
Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst
If I don't put Rome total war in my cd, it can crash at times. I don't have it when cd is in it.Originally posted by LzPrst
it shouldnt be necessary to have the cd to play in this day and age. its only a very stupid way of copy protecting games and inconvenient for the player.
and not 99% of games require the cd.
world of warcraft, all paradox games, civ3 (or did i crack it cause I got fed up, dont remember), rome total war, and many others dont have cd requirements for start.
seriously, its not a commodore 64. nothing is read off the cd is it? and if it is, i've got room on my drive.
why bother us with it?
regardless, no-cd cracks will come soon and the problem will then be solved.
I think you cracked it, because mine ask for CD every time (some time also when CD was in place and clean.Originally posted by LzPrst
civ3 (or did i crack it cause I got fed up, dont remember), rome total war, and many others dont have cd requirements for start.
Upgrading to C3Conquest was a relief, because the CD works (but it's needed in place, once again).
What's so inconvenient about sticking a CD in the drive and leaving it? You must have 0 patience. And yes, pretty much 99.9% of games today require the CD. It's the only way they can prevent people from pirating their work. Even that doesn't work very well.Originally posted by LzPrst
it shouldnt be necessary to have the cd to play in this day and age. its only a very stupid way of copy protecting games and inconvenient for the player.
and not 99% of games require the cd.
Oh and Civ 3 did require a disk in the drive.
I had a problem loading the game at first. When it asked for the second CD, I didn't wait for the "autoload" to open it before I clicked Next and the computer froze. I had to exit the installation and start over, but the second time I did, I waited for "autoload" to open a new window with the contents of the disk on it, closed that window, THEN pressed Next and it continued to load fine.
Then when I tried to play it with the disk that says Disk2/Play on it, it wouldn't do anything. Come to find out, you have to put Disk 1/Install in the drive in order to play. Go figure. Since then, everything is working okay, so far.
"What's so inconvenient about sticking a CD in the drive and leaving it? You must have 0 patience."
this is a very accurate statement for me, especially after dishing out 50 bucks for a game and 100 bucks for a new video card.
My game works fine with my new video card, except it only works once on for every reboot. When i put the CD in play a game, then exit Civ, the CD rom just keeps going and won't come out, eventually giving me a system error and automatic reboot...I anticipate this, so I reboot my computer after every play.
The CDs are not bad, as proven on antoher system on mine with no problems at all with the CD rom.
Had they not forced me to play the game they want it to be started (so it's more difficult to pirate) I would have ZERO problems and I wouldn't have even had the need to create an apolyton account, which I never had for Civ2/3
The moving of units is gabage...slow, not easy to see the difference between units unless you are zoomed all the way in. Other than that, that's my only complaint about the actual game so far.
This is why the PC games industry is going down the crapper.
Pushy publishers make developers release unfinished product. + Raise price of buying games. --->
People resentful of having paid for buggy software. --->
People more likely to pirate game. Proportion of piracy goes up. --->
Less money for publishers+developers. --->
Publishers determined to make more money than last release. --->
And repeat. Combine this with rising development costs for the standard level of graphicss in games now, and you have one downward spiral of industry.
The only way I see to really fix this is for a solid distribution platform like Steam to take off, cutting out the physical publishers entirely. Steam prevents piracy, and gives people an easy way to update. Is also very effective counter to hackers.
Also a good defense to losing game/getting broken discs. etc. Can re-download it easily for free.
All we need for that is cheap sattelite internet. Which is right around the corner.
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