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    Andromeda bigger than initially thought

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/0...eut/index.html

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    Damnable galactic showoffs!

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    but do they have life?!

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    I've never heard anything about plasma theory in any serious books on cosmology. I thought the spin was explained by interactions with dark matter and dark energy (and the effects of all of that on the Higgs field).
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    So, now the universe is another 10 billion years older then we thought
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    Originally posted by CyberShy
    So, now the universe is another 10 billion years older then we thought
    Dammit! Now I have reset my clock again!
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    Originally posted by DaShi
    Dammit! Now I have reset my clock again!
    Not so fast. I heard they determined the current age (14 billion years) by measuring how long it took light to travel from the edge of observable space. If that is true then shouldn't the current age be 28 billion years? That is, the time required for the edge to expand to 14 billion LYs away plus the time it took for the light to travel from that far away?
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    The more billion years the bigger the change for life to start and become intelligent
    As a true evolutionist I would always support more billion years! Gimme more gimme more
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    BS! The universe was created last friday!

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    Originally posted by CyberShy
    The more billion years the bigger the change for life to start and become intelligent
    As a true evolutionist I would always support more billion years! Gimme more gimme more
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    What this means is that we're going to crash into that bad boy sooner, rather than later.

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    Originally posted by Provost Harrison


    I see your passage to the dark side is now complete
    I see that you finally agree that your side is the dark side
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    What have the plasma physicists done for us lately? They need to figure out a propulsion device for us to go to Andromeda.
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    Originally posted by DanS
    What have the plasma physicists done for us lately? They need to figure out a propulsion device for us to go to Andromeda.
    That could be difficult so long as people like you aren't bothered by the fact that such a teeny tiny percentage of human economic activity is directed towards the necessary basic research.

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    Originally posted by CyberShy


    I see that you finally agree that your side is the dark side
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    Nope, Dark and proud

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    Originally posted by Vince278


    Not so fast. I heard they determined the current age (14 billion years) by measuring how long it took light to travel from the edge of observable space. If that is true then shouldn't the current age be 28 billion years? That is, the time required for the edge to expand to 14 billion LYs away plus the time it took for the light to travel from that far away?
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    Wouldn't it stand to reason that the universe expanded even more in the 14 billion years it took for light to travel from the observable edge?
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    Question

    Originally posted by Vince278
    Wouldn't it stand to reason that the universe expanded even more in the 14 billion years it took for light to travel from the observable edge?
    So the the place we are looking at 14 billion light years away was 14 billion light years away when the light began it's journey but is god only knows how far away now due to 14 billion years of expansion since then?

    I didn't think it worked that way.

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    Originally posted by Geronimo
    So the the place we are looking at 14 billion light years away was 14 billion light years away when the light began it's journey but is god only knows how far away now due to 14 billion years of expansion since then?

    I didn't think it worked that way.
    Correct, but something must be wrong with my logic if the current age is correct.
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