I've got a PC running win98, and a Laptop running XP home. help me connect 'em.

Az · May 15, 2005, 08:02

That's the deal: I've got a win98 PC, and an XP home ( I know I know. I am about to get another OS for it) Laptop.

The PC has got a NIC. I've got an ethernet cable connecting them.

How I make this crap work, and get them to:

-send each other files.
-share drives
-**** like that.

Thanks in advance.

Az · May 15, 2005, 08:50

bump

Richelieu · May 15, 2005, 10:30

Az, Win XP has a Home network setup wizard that will do that for you.

Spiffor · May 15, 2005, 10:41

I can't hep you. I've had many home networks between 98 and XP, and I've never ever figured out why some worked, and why some didn't work.

Praing may be the appropriate course of action. It would probably help to compulsively make sure the cables are well plugged too

Az · May 15, 2005, 10:46

Az, Win XP has a Home network setup wizard that will do that for you.

Didn't work.

Ecthy · May 15, 2005, 10:47

I can't help you either.

Az · May 15, 2005, 10:54

Praing may be the appropriate course of action.

Urban Ranger · May 15, 2005, 12:10

Use a crossover cable to connect the two. Share out the folders. Give each one a static IP. It should work.

Oncle Boris · May 15, 2005, 12:15

Make sure that both PCs are in the same workgroup. You should also install file and printer sharing on your w98 PC (it's there by default on WinXP).

You might never be able to get your W98 PC to see the XP one (is it formatted in NTFS?), but the opposite is likely possible - so if you want to transfer files, do it from your XP laptop.

Atahualpa · May 15, 2005, 13:44

You might never be able to get your W98 PC to see the XP one (is it formatted in NTFS?), but the opposite is likely possible - so if you want to transfer files, do it from your XP laptop.

filesystem doesn't matter...

Az, first as UR said, you need a cross-cable to connect the two directly. You can check the two ends of the cable, the colors of the wires on the one connector should be opposite to those on the other.
Then you plugin the cable at both your laptop and your PC. Now you have to assign some IP addresses to both NICs. You can e.g. use: 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 and using as subnet 255.255.255.0
Make sure that the XP firewall is disabled or file and printer sharing is marked as exception. If you've got another firewall in WIN98 running as well, configure it or disable it.
Now typing "\\" in your explorer should open the shared contents of the computer specified by ... I think you can also use the Windows name.

If that doesn't work I think you will have to install NetBEUI in XP Home... I don't know exactly if Win98 still needs it...

Az · May 15, 2005, 16:37

cross cable. forgot that. I'll check in the morning.

thanks.

Ecthy · May 15, 2005, 16:38

Who would've thought you need a cable to link up computers

Oncle Boris · May 15, 2005, 16:39

Originally posted by Atahualpa

filesystem doesn't matter...

Don't know if it matters... but assuredly networking 98 and XP is not a given.

Az · May 15, 2005, 16:56

Who would've thought you need a cable to link up computers

not just any cable. It's quite possible that my cable is an ordinary ethernet cable... in such a case, I'll just shell out some money for a goddamn router.

Richelieu · May 15, 2005, 17:02

...

Az · May 15, 2005, 17:07

Yeah, I feel pretty stupid now.

Spiffor · May 15, 2005, 17:26

Why wouldn't you buy a crossed cable? I don't think it's any more expansive than a regular one.

Az · May 15, 2005, 17:28

I simply forgot.

Well, n/m, I'll setup a network with a router anyway, at one point or another.

Lancer · May 15, 2005, 17:31

Take the desktop PC and put it on a workbench, on its side. Then, take the laptop and set it on top of the desktop PC which is on its side on a workbench. Then, take a hammer and ten penny nail and, using the hammer, drive the nail through the laptop which is on top of the desktop PC which is on its side on a workbench and continue driving the nail until the laptop is connected to the desktop PC which is on its side on a workbench.

Done.

Atahualpa · May 15, 2005, 18:30

Lancer, that's oldschool

Whoha · May 15, 2005, 18:33

Originally posted by Az
That's the deal: I've got a win98 PC, and an XP home ( I know I know. I am about to get another OS for it) Laptop.

The PC has got a NIC. I've got an ethernet cable connecting them.

How I make this crap work, and get them to:

-send each other files.
-share drives
-**** like that.

Thanks in advance.

static route.

on each box try
route add (first 3 parts of box 1 IP).0 mask 255.255.255.0 box2:ip

Whoha · May 15, 2005, 18:35

so for example if the ips are 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.2 respectively on 1.1.1.1 you'd type:
route add 2.2.2.0 mask 255.255.255.0 1.1.1.1

and
route add 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.2
on the second box.

Whoha · May 15, 2005, 18:36

Or you could just buy a router.

Atahualpa · May 15, 2005, 18:45

Originally posted by Oncle Boris

Don't know if it matters... but assuredly networking 98 and XP is not a given.

You can even share files on an ext2fs, with a linux kernel and maybe it's not an i386 puter but an alpha or sparc with solaris

Urban Ranger · May 15, 2005, 23:41

You need to run Samba on the Linux computer, though

Az · May 16, 2005, 04:15

wierd. The cable is crossed .

back to the drawing board.

Ted Striker · May 16, 2005, 04:22

Get a router

Ecthy · May 16, 2005, 04:26

Go out and meet people.

Az · May 16, 2005, 04:27

Originally posted by Whoha
so for example if the ips are 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.2 respectively on 1.1.1.1 you'd type:
route add 2.2.2.0 mask 255.255.255.0 1.1.1.1

and
route add 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.2
on the second box.

How do I set/retrieve the set ips?

and why is the mask 255.255.255.0?

winipcfg sez mask is 255.255.0.0 on my computer

Atahualpa · May 16, 2005, 05:01

Get into the computer science faculty and put up this sign: "I am too dumb to connect two PCs together.. please help me"
and put your phone numbers at the bottom