Tweet
The Civ 2 Source Code Petition
-----------------------------------------------------
What is it?
The Civ 2 Source Code Petition is made up of a letter stating the aims of the petition and a list of those who have signed the petition. The letter is as follows:
To the holders of the Civilization II Source Code,
This petition seeks to gain permission from you, the Civilization II/Sid Meier's Civilizaton II holders, for the release of the Civilization II source code. We present this petition to you in all good faith, as Civilization II fans, as loyal Civilization game franchise followers, and ultimately Civilization game purchasers.
For the past 9 years the computer game Civilization II has been on the market throughout the world. Also, derivatives of the original game, Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition and Civilization II: Test of Time, have been on the market for over 6 years.
During this time Civilization II has enthralled millions with its addicting game play, its ease of use, and ultimately its adaptability to modifications. Since its release it has gained a following like no other game ever released. Even today, many years past the release of Civilization, there are 8 active online communities around the world devoted to the game and its predecessors. No one can deny Civilization II is a game that will forever be revered as a classic.
As with any game that has brought so much pleasure to its fans we, the members of Apolyton.net, Civfanatics.com, Evolution Games forum (The Creative Design Group Civ 2 Forums), Civ.Org.pl, Civilization Center, Civilization Gaming Network, the Civilization Webring Forum, and Civfr.com seek to learn more about the game which has enthralled us for nearly a decade’s worth of time. We, in full knowledge and consent, ask you to release the source code of Civilization II to us, the public, for use in modification for non-financial means. We only seek to better and modify the game that has been enjoyed for so long so that we can continue enjoying it, and all the Civilization genre games, including the upcoming the fourth so named Civilization game.
Again, we do not seek to gain financially from the aims set forth in this petition. We are committed to making the source code open to all, at no cost, so that others can continue to enjoy a game that has opened the world of gaming to so many.
As Civilization fans we realize that the source code to Civilization II may still be viewed as commercially viable to any such producer and distributor of the game. To those that seek to gain from the further commercial release of Civilization II we present the following arguments. Please realize that these arguments are presented in good faith, as we do not wish to prod anyone to give up the source code against their will or the will of the ultimate decision makers in the process. We only seek to present an argument and, hopefully, receive a viable argument as to the opposite of our goal.
The arguments for the release of the Civilization II source code:
1) Due to the recent release of Windows XP and the Operating System's penchant for not working well with old games, Civilization II has been increasingly troublesome to play. Major modifications to the root directory are required to run the game, causing problems for any Civ II/Windows XP user. As is evident, Windows XP has become the dominant Operating System for all new computers. Thus, Civilization II has become an obsolete game.
2) In a market dominated by 3 dimensional polygon games, graphic heavy "shooters", and game console like games, the idea of playing a game like Civilization II has been lost to many consumers. Very few people want to pay for a game that was originally released in 1997. Thus, Civilization II has become uninteresting to the vast majority of computer game consumers.
3) With the release of Civilization III, Civilization III "add-ons", and the future release of Civilization IV, Civilization II has been passed by as the leading game in the genre of strategy/empire building. Only a few adamant players across the world have chosen to play Civilization II, not enough to be any sort of viable consumer base.
4) An avenue sometimes overlooked is the ability for "gamers" to improve a game. Many people talk about what they want in a game like Civilization II but few actually bother to bring their thoughts to fruition. With the release of the source code the small Civilization II gaming community could improve upon the game, outlining what they, the hardcore gamers, want in a strategy/empire building game. Needless to say, this opens up an opportunity for any future producers of games in the strategy/empire building genre to learn what gamers really want. The signers of this petition are the types of gamers that know what they want and tend to set a precedent for other like-minded gamers. Through the exploration of the internal workings of the Civilization II source code future designers can discover what exactly consumers desire from their strategy/empire building game. The opportunity for designers to learn, improve, and ultimately produce a better selling game is now.
5) Goodwill is an important part of retaining customers. In any industry it is important to reinforce the idea that producers want to satisfy their customers. Any business owner knows that a happy customer is a return customer and that a happy customer will spread the word of a well-meaning company. We, the signers of this petition, believe that releasing the source code to Civilization II is the perfect opportunity to build brand loyalty among Civilization fans. A great many game consumers like the idea that a game producer is out to not only create and sell a game, but to also entertain and satisfy their customers. Remember, a happy customer, is a return customer.
An example of a similar act of goodwill was the release of the source code for “Call to Power 2” by Activision. One cannot help but notice the publicity the publisher received when major news outlets, such as BBC News, covered the release. This created a public relations boost for Activision that still is remembered by fans today.
6) Building a following among fans creates an aura of infallibility. Fans of any game will ultimately be apt to continue purchasing any following games in a series. The "group think" among fans of any product, is that any future releases can only improve. With the release of the Civilization II source code many fans will view with affection later releases of the series, facilitating higher sales for the future game. Marketing does not only entail reinforcing the image of the latest game, but reinforcing the image of the entire series. The release of the source code will ignite a new interest in strategy/empire building games, creating a clamor for games of the same ilk.
Our Aim:
We seek the release of the source code for Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition v1.3 or if possible, Civilization II: Test of Time v1.11. (Both referred to as the Civ II Source Code)
We seek to have the Civ II Source Code released under a public license. We do not seek to make public any graphics or video from “the game” Civ II. We hope to receive the Civ II Source Code so as to modify the main executable, thereby allowing us, the modifiers and fans of “the game” Civ II, to compile the program, and to create a better, more bug free, game. With the release of the code we also ask to have any designer comments included so we can understand why certain game mechanics work as they do.
Various signers of the petition have come up with possible licenses under which the code might be released. Two suggestions are:
Creative Commons Public License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/.../2.0/legalcode
GNU General Public License (GPL): http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php
These licenses are examples. Both licenses have pros and cons for both the holders of the source code and the users of the source code.
As stated before, we are fans, not practitioners of copyright law. We understand the general legal implications of what we are asking but are not interested in minute legal details. Suggestions for a license for the Civ II Source Code are appreciated. Our wish is to work with the source code for our own enjoyment and to share derivative works with other enthusiasts.
As can be reasoned, releasing the source code to any game requires full transparency as to the aims of the party wishing for the code to be released. We assure you, as loyal Civ II fans, that we are sincere in our plea and do not wish to gain financially from the release of the code. The only gain we hope to make is in the fulfillment of making a great game even better.
Please take this letter with the names and email addresses of the petition signers to heart. We, the fans of Civ II await your reply.
Letter ends here, open to additions
-----------------------------------------------------
Can I add to the letter?
Yes, please post any suggestions. I will try to incorporate them as I can. Be warned, I will modify suggestions for grammar and language.
Opinions are respected and can be used in the letter as they apply to general consensus.
Suggestions about the license under which the Civ II Source Code can be released can be added, binding that the suggestions contain factual information about the license and its intent.
You will notice that I have removed any "interpretations" of the suggested licenses in the letter. This was done so that we do not misinterpret what the licenses actually state. The interpretation of the licenses are a legal matter and I do not feel comfortable stating what exactly the suggested licenses respect. Please respect this decision as licensing is an extremely touchy issue and any argument with the Civ II Source Code holders over this issue can torpedo ANY release of the code.
-----------------------------------------------------
Who's Signed It?
The following individuals, with their concurrent site association, have added their names to the petition.
[list=1][*] Apolyton.net #endgame[*] Apolyton.net 7EA[*] Apolyton.net 123john321[*] Apolyton.net Academia[*] Apolyton.net Adagio[*] Apolyton.net Alex Woehr[*] Apolyton.net Alinestra Covelia[*] Apolyton.net Alva[*] Apolyton.net Angelo Scotto[*] Apolyton.net Arthedain[*] Apolyton.net Asleepathewheel[*] Apolyton.net Atahualpa[*] Apolyton.net Az [*] Apolyton.net Balazs[*] Apolyton.net bill3000[*] Apolyton.net biru biru[*] Apolyton.net Boco[*] Apolyton.net boogaboo[*] Apolyton.net Boris Godunov[*] Apolyton.net Broken Erika[*] Apolyton.net CapTVK[*] Apolyton.net Carolus Rex[*] Apolyton.net Case[*] Apolyton.net Cataphact[*] Apolyton.net Choke[*] Apolyton.net Cifer Almasy[*] Apolyton.net Colonel Fox[*] Apolyton.net Comrade Tassadar[*] Apolyton.net Conmcb25[*] Apolyton.net Curtsibling[*] Apolyton.net Cyrion[*] Apolyton.net DarkCloud[*] Apolyton.net DeathByTheSword[*] Apolyton.net Dr. A. Cula [*] Apolyton.net Dr. Kellogg[*] Apolyton.net Duke of York[*] Apolyton.net dv8ed[*] Apolyton.net DvR[*] Apolyton.net El Awerence[*] Apolyton.net El Leon[*] Apolyton.net El Mencey[*] Apolyton.net Eli[*] Apolyton.net Eli [*] Apolyton.net Elok [*] Apolyton.net ElTigre[*] Apolyton.net Ennet[*] Apolyton.net Exile[*] Apolyton.net Fairline[*] Apolyton.net Felix de Montemar[*] Apolyton.net Field Marshal Klesh[*] Apolyton.net Figu[*] Apolyton.net Gatekeeper[*] Apolyton.net Genialon[*] Apolyton.net GerarDream[*] Apolyton.net GerryAnderson[*] Apolyton.net GerryAndersson[*] Apolyton.net GoPostal[*] Apolyton.net greeny[*] Apolyton.net Grrr[*] Apolyton.net H Tower[*] Apolyton.net Hardjoy[*] Apolyton.net Harry Tuttle[*] Apolyton.net Henrik[*] Apolyton.net Heresson[*] Apolyton.net HisMajestyBob[*] Apolyton.net Hueij[*] Apolyton.net James Kirk[*] Apolyton.net Jase17[*] Apolyton.net Jasev[*] Apolyton.net Japher[*] Apolyton.net Jawn Henry[*] Apolyton.net Jim Panse[*] Apolyton.net JohnPC[*] Apolyton.net JohnT[*] Apolyton.net Jon Miller[*] Apolyton.net josefstalin[*] Apolyton.net Juggler[*] Apolyton.net JValdezToo[*] Apolyton.net Kassiopeia[*] Apolyton.net Kobra/Eivind[*] Apolyton.net Kramsib[*] Apolyton.net Kugelregen[*] Apolyton.net Kull[*] Apolyton.net Lancer[*] Apolyton.net Laszlo[*] Apolyton.net Leonidas[*] Apolyton.net luebeck[*] Apolyton.net Master Zen[*] Apolyton.net Mercator[*] Apolyton.net Ming[*] Apolyton.net Miroslav[*] Apolyton.net MrWhereItsAt[*] Apolyton.net N35t0r [*] Apolyton.net Niessuh[*] Apolyton.net OzzyKP[*] Apolyton.net Paddy the Scot[*] Apolyton.net Palaiologos[*] Apolyton.net Pap1723[*] Apolyton.net Patine[*] Apolyton.net pena[*] Apolyton.net Pol Pot[*] Apolyton.net Qilue[*] Apolyton.net ravagon[*] Apolyton.net Sarsstock[*] Apolyton.net SCDARS[*] Apolyton.net Scouse Git[*] Apolyton.net SetuSinger[*] Apolyton.net Shaka Naldur[*] Apolyton.net Shark Fin 101[*] Apolyton.net Sirrvs[*] Apolyton.net Six Thousand Year Old Man[*] Apolyton.net SlowThinker[*] Apolyton.net SlowwHand[*] Apolyton.net Solomwi[*] Apolyton.net Solver[*] Apolyton.net St Leo[*] Apolyton.net Stefan Härtel[*] Apolyton.net tammander[*] Apolyton.net Tanelorn[*] Apolyton.net Tar-Plantir[*] Apolyton.net Tattila the Hun[*] Apolyton.net The Slayer[*] Apolyton.net The Viceroy[*] Apolyton.net Theben[*] Apolyton.net Tiemuzhen[*] Apolyton.net Tigey[*] Apolyton.net tombom[*] Apolyton.net Trajanus[*] Apolyton.net typhoon[*] Apolyton.net UH[*] Apolyton.net Unspeakable Horror[*] Apolyton.net Vlad Antlerkov[*] Apolyton.net Voltar[*] Apolyton.net vovan[*] Apolyton.net Wernazuma[*] Apolyton.net WhiteBandit[*] Apolyton.net Xuenay[*] Apolyton.net Yaroslav[*] Apolyton.net Zevico[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) bhiita[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Dario1986[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Kruger[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Micaelis Rex[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Pablicosta[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Pablostuka[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Patient English[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Rachel[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Sulletje[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) ZarD[*] civ.org.pl Å»ukov [*] civ.org.pl Adam Przezdziecki [*] civ.org.pl Adamus [*] civ.org.pl Adi Gabai [*] civ.org.pl Aga [*] civ.org.pl AgrEssOr [*] civ.org.pl Akromos [*] civ.org.pl AMIK POLAND [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Gandecki [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Golota [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Soja [*] civ.org.pl Ania [*] civ.org.pl Aragorn [*] civ.org.pl Arseniew [*] civ.org.pl Arti [*] civ.org.pl Aster [*] civ.org.pl Åukasz Gandecki [*] civ.org.pl Axquan [*] civ.org.pl Åysy [*] civ.org.pl BaÅ›ka [*] civ.org.pl Balbi [*] civ.org.pl BaMa [*] civ.org.pl Baronek [*] civ.org.pl Bartek M. z ModliÅ‚a [*] civ.org.pl BartLee [*] civ.org.pl Bartosz Janeczek [*] civ.org.pl Bartosz Kaminiecki[*] civ.org.pl Beat_4 [*] civ.org.pl Beenu [*] civ.org.pl Blanco [*] civ.org.pl Bolsa [*] civ.org.pl Brainac [*] civ.org.pl Bryniec [*] civ.org.pl Buby [*] civ.org.pl Bugi [*] civ.org.pl Cactus [*] civ.org.pl Caiser [*] civ.org.pl Camillo [*] civ.org.pl Cayus Dorthus [*] civ.org.pl Chalski [*] civ.org.pl CivFan [*] civ.org.pl Coolt_parano [*] civ.org.pl CoP [*] civ.org.pl CxHx [*] civ.org.pl Czakol [*] civ.org.pl Dame [*] civ.org.pl Dariusz Nadolny [*] civ.org.pl Dawid ÅabiÅ„ski [*] civ.org.pl DeYot [*] civ.org.pl DNS [*] civ.org.pl Edas [*] civ.org.pl Eliot [*] civ.org.pl EquinoX [*] civ.org.pl Eustache [*] civ.org.pl Faust [*] civ.org.pl Fazior [*] civ.org.pl Feanor [*] civ.org.pl Filon [*] civ.org.pl Fox [*] civ.org.pl Fremitus [*] civ.org.pl Ghost [*] civ.org.pl Gislan [*] civ.org.pl Gosia [*] civ.org.pl Gregorius Silesius [*] civ.org.pl Grzegorz Åabuzek [*] civ.org.pl Grzegorz Górnisiewicz [*] civ.org.pl Gulicz [*] civ.org.pl Heniu [*] civ.org.pl Himark [*] civ.org.pl Homm [*] civ.org.pl Hpsi [*] civ.org.pl Idek [*] civ.org.pl Irek z Kowal [*] civ.org.pl JaCo [*] civ.org.pl Jakub Matuszczak [*] civ.org.pl Jakub Suder a.k.a. Psionides [*] civ.org.pl Jan Kras [*] civ.org.pl Jarek P. [*] civ.org.pl JaRoSz [*] civ.org.pl JB [*] civ.org.pl Jerjames [*] civ.org.pl JerzyJ44 [*] civ.org.pl John Lock [*] civ.org.pl JooL [*] civ.org.pl Karol [*] civ.org.pl Karpi [*] civ.org.pl KNT [*] civ.org.pl Kobura [*] civ.org.pl Kokos [*] civ.org.pl Konflikt [*] civ.org.pl Konrad KoÅ‚akowski[*] civ.org.pl Konrad Materka[*] civ.org.pl Koszer [*] civ.org.pl Kratylos [*] civ.org.pl Krzysztof Twardy [*] civ.org.pl Krzysztof Wojciechowski 'Åšwistak' [*] civ.org.pl Kuba T [*] civ.org.pl LeDude [*] civ.org.pl Leonidus [*] civ.org.pl Lestek [*] civ.org.pl Leszek Gajda [*] civ.org.pl Leszek199 [*] civ.org.pl Leta Killer [*] civ.org.pl Lewar [*] civ.org.pl LOBO1983 [*] civ.org.pl LoD [*] civ.org.pl Lolek [*] civ.org.pl Lookandfeel [*] civ.org.pl Lorbas [*] civ.org.pl Lukas [*] civ.org.pl Lutobor [*] civ.org.pl Lydz Ijasu [*] civ.org.pl Macek [*] civ.org.pl Maciek Bednarczyk[*] civ.org.pl Madek [*] civ.org.pl Magdalena Wójcik[*] civ.org.pl MajaX [*] civ.org.pl MarcinQ [*] civ.org.pl Mareek [*] civ.org.pl Marek Mejssner [*] civ.org.pl MarekS10 [*] civ.org.pl Marioramst [*] civ.org.pl Markos [*] civ.org.pl Marorz [*] civ.org.pl Maslak [*] civ.org.pl Mathyr [*] civ.org.pl Maximus [*] civ.org.pl Mdk21 [*] civ.org.pl Mendax [*] civ.org.pl Metal76 [*] civ.org.pl MichaÅ‚ GawroÅ„ski[*] civ.org.pl MichaÅ‚ Krupa [*] civ.org.pl Michal Fiedoruk [*] civ.org.pl Mikaelus [*] civ.org.pl Mipol [*] civ.org.pl Misiek [*] civ.org.pl Miszol [*] civ.org.pl MoDoc [*] civ.org.pl Monos [*] civ.org.pl Morgul [*] civ.org.pl Muadib [*] civ.org.pl NetScApE [*] civ.org.pl NinoSS [*] civ.org.pl Nolthar [*] civ.org.pl Obeliks [*] civ.org.pl Oboedent [*] civ.org.pl Okraj_ [*] civ.org.pl OkweL [*] civ.org.pl Orr [*] civ.org.pl Osh [*] civ.org.pl Oskar KozÅ‚owski [*] civ.org.pl PaweÅ‚ Kaczmarek [*] civ.org.pl PaweÅ‚ Sobolewski [*] civ.org.pl Peter [*] civ.org.pl PeterDIK [*] civ.org.pl Piotert [*] civ.org.pl Piotr Andrzej Bochenek[*] civ.org.pl Piotr KoÅ‚odziejczyk[*] civ.org.pl Piotr Kwiatkowski [*] civ.org.pl Piotr_I [*] civ.org.pl PiotrLegnica [*] civ.org.pl Ponti [*] civ.org.pl Praca [*] civ.org.pl Przemek [*] civ.org.pl Przemoo [*] civ.org.pl Q# [*] civ.org.pl Quavartus [*] civ.org.pl Quisatz [*] civ.org.pl Radoslaw Michalczyk [*] civ.org.pl RafaÅ‚ Klepacz [*] civ.org.pl RafaÅ‚ Opas [*] civ.org.pl Rafal Mróz [*] civ.org.pl Rafi [*] civ.org.pl Raven [*] civ.org.pl Remek [*] civ.org.pl Robert Kurowski[*] civ.org.pl Roman [*] civ.org.pl Ronwe [*] civ.org.pl Rosenbaum [*] civ.org.pl Rtea[*] civ.org.pl Rychu [*] civ.org.pl Rychu H. [*] civ.org.pl Scorch [*] civ.org.pl Sea Angel[*] civ.org.pl Sebed [*] civ.org.pl Sharki9 [*] civ.org.pl SIN [*] civ.org.pl Sir Boban The Great[*] civ.org.pl Sivy [*] civ.org.pl SKOLMAN_MWS [*] civ.org.pl Slavo [*] civ.org.pl SoLdIEruS [*] civ.org.pl Spokz [*] civ.org.pl Spooky [*] civ.org.pl Stev [*] civ.org.pl Strug [*] civ.org.pl Szymcio2001 [*] civ.org.pl Szymon [*] civ.org.pl Szymon Tomzik [*] civ.org.pl Techno200 [*] civ.org.pl Tomasz Karpinski [*] civ.org.pl Tomaszek [*] civ.org.pl Tomek S. [*] civ.org.pl Tomulus [*] civ.org.pl TPython [*] civ.org.pl Turaglar [*] civ.org.pl Ucel [*] civ.org.pl UfoK [*] civ.org.pl Veest [*] civ.org.pl Veider [*] civ.org.pl Vlad Dracolya [*] civ.org.pl VOYtEC [*] civ.org.pl Waste [*] civ.org.pl WicioP [*] civ.org.pl Witt69 [*] civ.org.pl Wojcio [*] civ.org.pl Xellos [*] civ.org.pl Yahaja [*] civ.org.pl Zarzyk [*] civ.org.pl Zbigniew Chudzikowski[*] civ.org.pl Zbigniew Olszewski [*] civ.org.pl Zeke [*] civ.org.pl Zgryzik [*] civ.org.pl Zorg [*] Civfr.com Cristal[*] Civfr.com Gilgamesh[*] Civfr.com I Love Sid Meier [*] Civfr.com Tboh[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Fraxinus Exelscior[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Jacon[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) JaRoSz[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Pol_Cop[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Szczurek[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Alex Naggi [*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Alsbron QB[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center AncestralSpark[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center aneeshm[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Aralanis[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Archer 007[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center azzacanth[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Barry Beal[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center belteshazzar[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Bestter[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center BlackAdder60[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Brain[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center cavemanf16[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center cd21[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cedric Greene[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Chieftess[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center chriguhose[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Chukchi Husky[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cleveland[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center croxis[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center CtrlAltDel[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cyber Dreyk[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Darth Pugwash[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Dease[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ElephantU[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Elite Guard[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center fantasmo[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center funxus[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Graham[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Graham Bruno[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Grand Cadfael[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Grisner[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Happy Alex[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center hetairoi22[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Hygro[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center insurgent[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JBG[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JDexter[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JG99 Korab[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Joeb Wan Kenobi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Judge_Deadd[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Kobayashi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Lord All Mighty[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Lozzy Ozzy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center MajorGeneral2[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Markstar[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Matrix[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center MikeLynch[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Mise[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Mr. Guy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ndcspurs[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Nerd359[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center NexusHyper[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center nitram[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center nonconformist[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ozo[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center P.S.Y.C.H.O.[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PaleHorse/PaleHorse76[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center pbg5000[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Piffy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PlutonianEmpire[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PrinceScamp[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Prometeus[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Qcubed[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center RegentMan[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Ren[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rhymes[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rob Wuyts[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center RobertHMayfire[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rod[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Schlomoe99[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center schmidi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center SemperFi2382[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center SolarKnight[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Souron[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Spud Boy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Stargate2_earth[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center statusperfect[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center stickciv[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center subbss[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center t92300[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Tanstaafl[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Temurleng[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ThePerson[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center TheViking[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Tomislav[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Trade-peror[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center W.I.N.T.E.R.[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Wobbegong[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Xcare87X[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Xineoph[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center yelahneb[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Zonzhal[*] Civilization Gaming Network bitnapper[*] Civilization Gaming Network Rasbelin[*] Civilization Webring Forum AiC[*] Civilization Webring Forum Arne[*] Civilization Webring Forum Barthi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Blocki88[*] Civilization Webring Forum Bonaparte[*] Civilization Webring Forum c4master[*] Civilization Webring Forum Chris[*] Civilization Webring Forum chuckylein[*] Civilization Webring Forum Cobra[*] Civilization Webring Forum Dante[*] Civilization Webring Forum Darekill[*] Civilization Webring Forum Fenris[*] Civilization Webring Forum Kassian[*] Civilization Webring Forum kronic[*] Civilization Webring Forum Lemming[*] Civilization Webring Forum lowcut[*] Civilization Webring Forum Lufia[*] Civilization Webring Forum Maker[*] Civilization Webring Forum Mr. Gandhi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Radyserb[*] Civilization Webring Forum robertinho[*] Civilization Webring Forum sethos[*] Civilization Webring Forum Shaft[*] Civilization Webring Forum Thoddy[*] Civilization Webring Forum toreg[*] Civilization Webring Forum User[*] Civilization Webring Forum Willi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Xardas[*] Civilization Webring Forum zer0her0[*] Gamecatcher Kundor[*] Gamecatcher Talar[*] UnClassified Adrian Santos[*] UnClassified Alejandro[*] UnClassified Alejandro Gaita[*] UnClassified Apostolos[*] UnClassified Black[*] UnClassified Cap Petusah[*] UnClassified Daniel[*] UnClassified Filippo[*] UnClassified Gilbert Barillé[*] UnClassified Greetz[*] UnClassified hanti[*] UnClassified Jadelicia[*] UnClassified Jeff Young[*] UnClassified Jimmywax [*] UnClassified jonel1111[*] UnClassified Jonellll[*] UnClassified José Antonio López Rey[*] UnClassified Kevin Pulliam [*] UnClassified Ljube[*] UnClassified Marcos[*] UnClassified Matt[*] UnClassified q# [*] UnClassified Sergio[*] UnClassified Sérgio Pereira[*] UnClassified Smik Lakhani[*] UnClassified Smiklakhani[*] UnClassified TemporalAnomaly[*] UnClassified Tom McAnally[*] UnClassified Zabba149[/list=1]
-----------------------------------------------------
Where has it been posted?
The petition has been posted in the following threads on the following respective sites.
-----------------------------------------------------
Can I still sign up?
Definitely. All that is required for you to sign is your username and an email address. Signatures can be submitted in this thread or in the other threads as mentioned previously. If you wish for your email to remain confidential you can PM (Private Message) myself or send an email to harrytuttle@civilization2.net
The petition will be finalized on June 1, 2005 at which point it will be presented to the respective holders of the Source Code.
-----------------------------------------------------
What happened to the old Apolyton Civ 2 Source Code Thread?
After our little mishap with the forum the following thread was recovered which should contain the entirety of the original Apolyton Civ 2 Source Code thread:
-----------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------
What is it?
The Civ 2 Source Code Petition is made up of a letter stating the aims of the petition and a list of those who have signed the petition. The letter is as follows:
To the holders of the Civilization II Source Code,
This petition seeks to gain permission from you, the Civilization II/Sid Meier's Civilizaton II holders, for the release of the Civilization II source code. We present this petition to you in all good faith, as Civilization II fans, as loyal Civilization game franchise followers, and ultimately Civilization game purchasers.
For the past 9 years the computer game Civilization II has been on the market throughout the world. Also, derivatives of the original game, Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition and Civilization II: Test of Time, have been on the market for over 6 years.
During this time Civilization II has enthralled millions with its addicting game play, its ease of use, and ultimately its adaptability to modifications. Since its release it has gained a following like no other game ever released. Even today, many years past the release of Civilization, there are 8 active online communities around the world devoted to the game and its predecessors. No one can deny Civilization II is a game that will forever be revered as a classic.
As with any game that has brought so much pleasure to its fans we, the members of Apolyton.net, Civfanatics.com, Evolution Games forum (The Creative Design Group Civ 2 Forums), Civ.Org.pl, Civilization Center, Civilization Gaming Network, the Civilization Webring Forum, and Civfr.com seek to learn more about the game which has enthralled us for nearly a decade’s worth of time. We, in full knowledge and consent, ask you to release the source code of Civilization II to us, the public, for use in modification for non-financial means. We only seek to better and modify the game that has been enjoyed for so long so that we can continue enjoying it, and all the Civilization genre games, including the upcoming the fourth so named Civilization game.
Again, we do not seek to gain financially from the aims set forth in this petition. We are committed to making the source code open to all, at no cost, so that others can continue to enjoy a game that has opened the world of gaming to so many.
As Civilization fans we realize that the source code to Civilization II may still be viewed as commercially viable to any such producer and distributor of the game. To those that seek to gain from the further commercial release of Civilization II we present the following arguments. Please realize that these arguments are presented in good faith, as we do not wish to prod anyone to give up the source code against their will or the will of the ultimate decision makers in the process. We only seek to present an argument and, hopefully, receive a viable argument as to the opposite of our goal.
The arguments for the release of the Civilization II source code:
1) Due to the recent release of Windows XP and the Operating System's penchant for not working well with old games, Civilization II has been increasingly troublesome to play. Major modifications to the root directory are required to run the game, causing problems for any Civ II/Windows XP user. As is evident, Windows XP has become the dominant Operating System for all new computers. Thus, Civilization II has become an obsolete game.
2) In a market dominated by 3 dimensional polygon games, graphic heavy "shooters", and game console like games, the idea of playing a game like Civilization II has been lost to many consumers. Very few people want to pay for a game that was originally released in 1997. Thus, Civilization II has become uninteresting to the vast majority of computer game consumers.
3) With the release of Civilization III, Civilization III "add-ons", and the future release of Civilization IV, Civilization II has been passed by as the leading game in the genre of strategy/empire building. Only a few adamant players across the world have chosen to play Civilization II, not enough to be any sort of viable consumer base.
4) An avenue sometimes overlooked is the ability for "gamers" to improve a game. Many people talk about what they want in a game like Civilization II but few actually bother to bring their thoughts to fruition. With the release of the source code the small Civilization II gaming community could improve upon the game, outlining what they, the hardcore gamers, want in a strategy/empire building game. Needless to say, this opens up an opportunity for any future producers of games in the strategy/empire building genre to learn what gamers really want. The signers of this petition are the types of gamers that know what they want and tend to set a precedent for other like-minded gamers. Through the exploration of the internal workings of the Civilization II source code future designers can discover what exactly consumers desire from their strategy/empire building game. The opportunity for designers to learn, improve, and ultimately produce a better selling game is now.
5) Goodwill is an important part of retaining customers. In any industry it is important to reinforce the idea that producers want to satisfy their customers. Any business owner knows that a happy customer is a return customer and that a happy customer will spread the word of a well-meaning company. We, the signers of this petition, believe that releasing the source code to Civilization II is the perfect opportunity to build brand loyalty among Civilization fans. A great many game consumers like the idea that a game producer is out to not only create and sell a game, but to also entertain and satisfy their customers. Remember, a happy customer, is a return customer.
An example of a similar act of goodwill was the release of the source code for “Call to Power 2” by Activision. One cannot help but notice the publicity the publisher received when major news outlets, such as BBC News, covered the release. This created a public relations boost for Activision that still is remembered by fans today.
6) Building a following among fans creates an aura of infallibility. Fans of any game will ultimately be apt to continue purchasing any following games in a series. The "group think" among fans of any product, is that any future releases can only improve. With the release of the Civilization II source code many fans will view with affection later releases of the series, facilitating higher sales for the future game. Marketing does not only entail reinforcing the image of the latest game, but reinforcing the image of the entire series. The release of the source code will ignite a new interest in strategy/empire building games, creating a clamor for games of the same ilk.
Our Aim:
We seek the release of the source code for Civilization II: Multiplayer Gold Edition v1.3 or if possible, Civilization II: Test of Time v1.11. (Both referred to as the Civ II Source Code)
We seek to have the Civ II Source Code released under a public license. We do not seek to make public any graphics or video from “the game” Civ II. We hope to receive the Civ II Source Code so as to modify the main executable, thereby allowing us, the modifiers and fans of “the game” Civ II, to compile the program, and to create a better, more bug free, game. With the release of the code we also ask to have any designer comments included so we can understand why certain game mechanics work as they do.
Various signers of the petition have come up with possible licenses under which the code might be released. Two suggestions are:
Creative Commons Public License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/.../2.0/legalcode
GNU General Public License (GPL): http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php
These licenses are examples. Both licenses have pros and cons for both the holders of the source code and the users of the source code.
As stated before, we are fans, not practitioners of copyright law. We understand the general legal implications of what we are asking but are not interested in minute legal details. Suggestions for a license for the Civ II Source Code are appreciated. Our wish is to work with the source code for our own enjoyment and to share derivative works with other enthusiasts.
As can be reasoned, releasing the source code to any game requires full transparency as to the aims of the party wishing for the code to be released. We assure you, as loyal Civ II fans, that we are sincere in our plea and do not wish to gain financially from the release of the code. The only gain we hope to make is in the fulfillment of making a great game even better.
Please take this letter with the names and email addresses of the petition signers to heart. We, the fans of Civ II await your reply.
Letter ends here, open to additions
-----------------------------------------------------
Can I add to the letter?
Yes, please post any suggestions. I will try to incorporate them as I can. Be warned, I will modify suggestions for grammar and language.
Opinions are respected and can be used in the letter as they apply to general consensus.
Suggestions about the license under which the Civ II Source Code can be released can be added, binding that the suggestions contain factual information about the license and its intent.
You will notice that I have removed any "interpretations" of the suggested licenses in the letter. This was done so that we do not misinterpret what the licenses actually state. The interpretation of the licenses are a legal matter and I do not feel comfortable stating what exactly the suggested licenses respect. Please respect this decision as licensing is an extremely touchy issue and any argument with the Civ II Source Code holders over this issue can torpedo ANY release of the code.
-----------------------------------------------------
Who's Signed It?
The following individuals, with their concurrent site association, have added their names to the petition.
[list=1][*] Apolyton.net #endgame[*] Apolyton.net 7EA[*] Apolyton.net 123john321[*] Apolyton.net Academia[*] Apolyton.net Adagio[*] Apolyton.net Alex Woehr[*] Apolyton.net Alinestra Covelia[*] Apolyton.net Alva[*] Apolyton.net Angelo Scotto[*] Apolyton.net Arthedain[*] Apolyton.net Asleepathewheel[*] Apolyton.net Atahualpa[*] Apolyton.net Az [*] Apolyton.net Balazs[*] Apolyton.net bill3000[*] Apolyton.net biru biru[*] Apolyton.net Boco[*] Apolyton.net boogaboo[*] Apolyton.net Boris Godunov[*] Apolyton.net Broken Erika[*] Apolyton.net CapTVK[*] Apolyton.net Carolus Rex[*] Apolyton.net Case[*] Apolyton.net Cataphact[*] Apolyton.net Choke[*] Apolyton.net Cifer Almasy[*] Apolyton.net Colonel Fox[*] Apolyton.net Comrade Tassadar[*] Apolyton.net Conmcb25[*] Apolyton.net Curtsibling[*] Apolyton.net Cyrion[*] Apolyton.net DarkCloud[*] Apolyton.net DeathByTheSword[*] Apolyton.net Dr. A. Cula [*] Apolyton.net Dr. Kellogg[*] Apolyton.net Duke of York[*] Apolyton.net dv8ed[*] Apolyton.net DvR[*] Apolyton.net El Awerence[*] Apolyton.net El Leon[*] Apolyton.net El Mencey[*] Apolyton.net Eli[*] Apolyton.net Eli [*] Apolyton.net Elok [*] Apolyton.net ElTigre[*] Apolyton.net Ennet[*] Apolyton.net Exile[*] Apolyton.net Fairline[*] Apolyton.net Felix de Montemar[*] Apolyton.net Field Marshal Klesh[*] Apolyton.net Figu[*] Apolyton.net Gatekeeper[*] Apolyton.net Genialon[*] Apolyton.net GerarDream[*] Apolyton.net GerryAnderson[*] Apolyton.net GerryAndersson[*] Apolyton.net GoPostal[*] Apolyton.net greeny[*] Apolyton.net Grrr[*] Apolyton.net H Tower[*] Apolyton.net Hardjoy[*] Apolyton.net Harry Tuttle[*] Apolyton.net Henrik[*] Apolyton.net Heresson[*] Apolyton.net HisMajestyBob[*] Apolyton.net Hueij[*] Apolyton.net James Kirk[*] Apolyton.net Jase17[*] Apolyton.net Jasev[*] Apolyton.net Japher[*] Apolyton.net Jawn Henry[*] Apolyton.net Jim Panse[*] Apolyton.net JohnPC[*] Apolyton.net JohnT[*] Apolyton.net Jon Miller[*] Apolyton.net josefstalin[*] Apolyton.net Juggler[*] Apolyton.net JValdezToo[*] Apolyton.net Kassiopeia[*] Apolyton.net Kobra/Eivind[*] Apolyton.net Kramsib[*] Apolyton.net Kugelregen[*] Apolyton.net Kull[*] Apolyton.net Lancer[*] Apolyton.net Laszlo[*] Apolyton.net Leonidas[*] Apolyton.net luebeck[*] Apolyton.net Master Zen[*] Apolyton.net Mercator[*] Apolyton.net Ming[*] Apolyton.net Miroslav[*] Apolyton.net MrWhereItsAt[*] Apolyton.net N35t0r [*] Apolyton.net Niessuh[*] Apolyton.net OzzyKP[*] Apolyton.net Paddy the Scot[*] Apolyton.net Palaiologos[*] Apolyton.net Pap1723[*] Apolyton.net Patine[*] Apolyton.net pena[*] Apolyton.net Pol Pot[*] Apolyton.net Qilue[*] Apolyton.net ravagon[*] Apolyton.net Sarsstock[*] Apolyton.net SCDARS[*] Apolyton.net Scouse Git[*] Apolyton.net SetuSinger[*] Apolyton.net Shaka Naldur[*] Apolyton.net Shark Fin 101[*] Apolyton.net Sirrvs[*] Apolyton.net Six Thousand Year Old Man[*] Apolyton.net SlowThinker[*] Apolyton.net SlowwHand[*] Apolyton.net Solomwi[*] Apolyton.net Solver[*] Apolyton.net St Leo[*] Apolyton.net Stefan Härtel[*] Apolyton.net tammander[*] Apolyton.net Tanelorn[*] Apolyton.net Tar-Plantir[*] Apolyton.net Tattila the Hun[*] Apolyton.net The Slayer[*] Apolyton.net The Viceroy[*] Apolyton.net Theben[*] Apolyton.net Tiemuzhen[*] Apolyton.net Tigey[*] Apolyton.net tombom[*] Apolyton.net Trajanus[*] Apolyton.net typhoon[*] Apolyton.net UH[*] Apolyton.net Unspeakable Horror[*] Apolyton.net Vlad Antlerkov[*] Apolyton.net Voltar[*] Apolyton.net vovan[*] Apolyton.net Wernazuma[*] Apolyton.net WhiteBandit[*] Apolyton.net Xuenay[*] Apolyton.net Yaroslav[*] Apolyton.net Zevico[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) bhiita[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Dario1986[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Kruger[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Micaelis Rex[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Pablicosta[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Pablostuka[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Patient English[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Rachel[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) Sulletje[*] Civ 2 Creative Design Forums (cdgroup.org) ZarD[*] civ.org.pl Å»ukov [*] civ.org.pl Adam Przezdziecki [*] civ.org.pl Adamus [*] civ.org.pl Adi Gabai [*] civ.org.pl Aga [*] civ.org.pl AgrEssOr [*] civ.org.pl Akromos [*] civ.org.pl AMIK POLAND [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Gandecki [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Golota [*] civ.org.pl Andrzej Soja [*] civ.org.pl Ania [*] civ.org.pl Aragorn [*] civ.org.pl Arseniew [*] civ.org.pl Arti [*] civ.org.pl Aster [*] civ.org.pl Åukasz Gandecki [*] civ.org.pl Axquan [*] civ.org.pl Åysy [*] civ.org.pl BaÅ›ka [*] civ.org.pl Balbi [*] civ.org.pl BaMa [*] civ.org.pl Baronek [*] civ.org.pl Bartek M. z ModliÅ‚a [*] civ.org.pl BartLee [*] civ.org.pl Bartosz Janeczek [*] civ.org.pl Bartosz Kaminiecki[*] civ.org.pl Beat_4 [*] civ.org.pl Beenu [*] civ.org.pl Blanco [*] civ.org.pl Bolsa [*] civ.org.pl Brainac [*] civ.org.pl Bryniec [*] civ.org.pl Buby [*] civ.org.pl Bugi [*] civ.org.pl Cactus [*] civ.org.pl Caiser [*] civ.org.pl Camillo [*] civ.org.pl Cayus Dorthus [*] civ.org.pl Chalski [*] civ.org.pl CivFan [*] civ.org.pl Coolt_parano [*] civ.org.pl CoP [*] civ.org.pl CxHx [*] civ.org.pl Czakol [*] civ.org.pl Dame [*] civ.org.pl Dariusz Nadolny [*] civ.org.pl Dawid ÅabiÅ„ski [*] civ.org.pl DeYot [*] civ.org.pl DNS [*] civ.org.pl Edas [*] civ.org.pl Eliot [*] civ.org.pl EquinoX [*] civ.org.pl Eustache [*] civ.org.pl Faust [*] civ.org.pl Fazior [*] civ.org.pl Feanor [*] civ.org.pl Filon [*] civ.org.pl Fox [*] civ.org.pl Fremitus [*] civ.org.pl Ghost [*] civ.org.pl Gislan [*] civ.org.pl Gosia [*] civ.org.pl Gregorius Silesius [*] civ.org.pl Grzegorz Åabuzek [*] civ.org.pl Grzegorz Górnisiewicz [*] civ.org.pl Gulicz [*] civ.org.pl Heniu [*] civ.org.pl Himark [*] civ.org.pl Homm [*] civ.org.pl Hpsi [*] civ.org.pl Idek [*] civ.org.pl Irek z Kowal [*] civ.org.pl JaCo [*] civ.org.pl Jakub Matuszczak [*] civ.org.pl Jakub Suder a.k.a. Psionides [*] civ.org.pl Jan Kras [*] civ.org.pl Jarek P. [*] civ.org.pl JaRoSz [*] civ.org.pl JB [*] civ.org.pl Jerjames [*] civ.org.pl JerzyJ44 [*] civ.org.pl John Lock [*] civ.org.pl JooL [*] civ.org.pl Karol [*] civ.org.pl Karpi [*] civ.org.pl KNT [*] civ.org.pl Kobura [*] civ.org.pl Kokos [*] civ.org.pl Konflikt [*] civ.org.pl Konrad KoÅ‚akowski[*] civ.org.pl Konrad Materka[*] civ.org.pl Koszer [*] civ.org.pl Kratylos [*] civ.org.pl Krzysztof Twardy [*] civ.org.pl Krzysztof Wojciechowski 'Åšwistak' [*] civ.org.pl Kuba T [*] civ.org.pl LeDude [*] civ.org.pl Leonidus [*] civ.org.pl Lestek [*] civ.org.pl Leszek Gajda [*] civ.org.pl Leszek199 [*] civ.org.pl Leta Killer [*] civ.org.pl Lewar [*] civ.org.pl LOBO1983 [*] civ.org.pl LoD [*] civ.org.pl Lolek [*] civ.org.pl Lookandfeel [*] civ.org.pl Lorbas [*] civ.org.pl Lukas [*] civ.org.pl Lutobor [*] civ.org.pl Lydz Ijasu [*] civ.org.pl Macek [*] civ.org.pl Maciek Bednarczyk[*] civ.org.pl Madek [*] civ.org.pl Magdalena Wójcik[*] civ.org.pl MajaX [*] civ.org.pl MarcinQ [*] civ.org.pl Mareek [*] civ.org.pl Marek Mejssner [*] civ.org.pl MarekS10 [*] civ.org.pl Marioramst [*] civ.org.pl Markos [*] civ.org.pl Marorz [*] civ.org.pl Maslak [*] civ.org.pl Mathyr [*] civ.org.pl Maximus [*] civ.org.pl Mdk21 [*] civ.org.pl Mendax [*] civ.org.pl Metal76 [*] civ.org.pl MichaÅ‚ GawroÅ„ski[*] civ.org.pl MichaÅ‚ Krupa [*] civ.org.pl Michal Fiedoruk [*] civ.org.pl Mikaelus [*] civ.org.pl Mipol [*] civ.org.pl Misiek [*] civ.org.pl Miszol [*] civ.org.pl MoDoc [*] civ.org.pl Monos [*] civ.org.pl Morgul [*] civ.org.pl Muadib [*] civ.org.pl NetScApE [*] civ.org.pl NinoSS [*] civ.org.pl Nolthar [*] civ.org.pl Obeliks [*] civ.org.pl Oboedent [*] civ.org.pl Okraj_ [*] civ.org.pl OkweL [*] civ.org.pl Orr [*] civ.org.pl Osh [*] civ.org.pl Oskar KozÅ‚owski [*] civ.org.pl PaweÅ‚ Kaczmarek [*] civ.org.pl PaweÅ‚ Sobolewski [*] civ.org.pl Peter [*] civ.org.pl PeterDIK [*] civ.org.pl Piotert [*] civ.org.pl Piotr Andrzej Bochenek[*] civ.org.pl Piotr KoÅ‚odziejczyk[*] civ.org.pl Piotr Kwiatkowski [*] civ.org.pl Piotr_I [*] civ.org.pl PiotrLegnica [*] civ.org.pl Ponti [*] civ.org.pl Praca [*] civ.org.pl Przemek [*] civ.org.pl Przemoo [*] civ.org.pl Q# [*] civ.org.pl Quavartus [*] civ.org.pl Quisatz [*] civ.org.pl Radoslaw Michalczyk [*] civ.org.pl RafaÅ‚ Klepacz [*] civ.org.pl RafaÅ‚ Opas [*] civ.org.pl Rafal Mróz [*] civ.org.pl Rafi [*] civ.org.pl Raven [*] civ.org.pl Remek [*] civ.org.pl Robert Kurowski[*] civ.org.pl Roman [*] civ.org.pl Ronwe [*] civ.org.pl Rosenbaum [*] civ.org.pl Rtea[*] civ.org.pl Rychu [*] civ.org.pl Rychu H. [*] civ.org.pl Scorch [*] civ.org.pl Sea Angel[*] civ.org.pl Sebed [*] civ.org.pl Sharki9 [*] civ.org.pl SIN [*] civ.org.pl Sir Boban The Great[*] civ.org.pl Sivy [*] civ.org.pl SKOLMAN_MWS [*] civ.org.pl Slavo [*] civ.org.pl SoLdIEruS [*] civ.org.pl Spokz [*] civ.org.pl Spooky [*] civ.org.pl Stev [*] civ.org.pl Strug [*] civ.org.pl Szymcio2001 [*] civ.org.pl Szymon [*] civ.org.pl Szymon Tomzik [*] civ.org.pl Techno200 [*] civ.org.pl Tomasz Karpinski [*] civ.org.pl Tomaszek [*] civ.org.pl Tomek S. [*] civ.org.pl Tomulus [*] civ.org.pl TPython [*] civ.org.pl Turaglar [*] civ.org.pl Ucel [*] civ.org.pl UfoK [*] civ.org.pl Veest [*] civ.org.pl Veider [*] civ.org.pl Vlad Dracolya [*] civ.org.pl VOYtEC [*] civ.org.pl Waste [*] civ.org.pl WicioP [*] civ.org.pl Witt69 [*] civ.org.pl Wojcio [*] civ.org.pl Xellos [*] civ.org.pl Yahaja [*] civ.org.pl Zarzyk [*] civ.org.pl Zbigniew Chudzikowski[*] civ.org.pl Zbigniew Olszewski [*] civ.org.pl Zeke [*] civ.org.pl Zgryzik [*] civ.org.pl Zorg [*] Civfr.com Cristal[*] Civfr.com Gilgamesh[*] Civfr.com I Love Sid Meier [*] Civfr.com Tboh[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Fraxinus Exelscior[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Jacon[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) JaRoSz[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Pol_Cop[*] Civilization Center (www.civilization.prv.pl) Szczurek[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Alex Naggi [*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Alsbron QB[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center AncestralSpark[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center aneeshm[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Aralanis[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Archer 007[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center azzacanth[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Barry Beal[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center belteshazzar[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Bestter[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center BlackAdder60[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Brain[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center cavemanf16[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center cd21[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cedric Greene[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Chieftess[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center chriguhose[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Chukchi Husky[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cleveland[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center croxis[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center CtrlAltDel[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Cyber Dreyk[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Darth Pugwash[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Dease[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ElephantU[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Elite Guard[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center fantasmo[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center funxus[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Graham[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Graham Bruno[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Grand Cadfael[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Grisner[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Happy Alex[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center hetairoi22[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Hygro[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center insurgent[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JBG[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JDexter[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center JG99 Korab[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Joeb Wan Kenobi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Judge_Deadd[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Kobayashi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Lord All Mighty[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Lozzy Ozzy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center MajorGeneral2[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Markstar[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Matrix[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center MikeLynch[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Mise[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Mr. Guy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ndcspurs[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Nerd359[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center NexusHyper[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center nitram[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center nonconformist[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ozo[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center P.S.Y.C.H.O.[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PaleHorse/PaleHorse76[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center pbg5000[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Piffy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PlutonianEmpire[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center PrinceScamp[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Prometeus[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Qcubed[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center RegentMan[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Ren[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rhymes[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rob Wuyts[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center RobertHMayfire[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Rod[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Schlomoe99[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center schmidi[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center SemperFi2382[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center SolarKnight[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Souron[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Spud Boy[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Stargate2_earth[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center statusperfect[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center stickciv[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center subbss[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center t92300[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Tanstaafl[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Temurleng[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center ThePerson[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center TheViking[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Tomislav[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Trade-peror[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center W.I.N.T.E.R.[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Wobbegong[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Xcare87X[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Xineoph[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center yelahneb[*] Civilization Fanatics' Center Zonzhal[*] Civilization Gaming Network bitnapper[*] Civilization Gaming Network Rasbelin[*] Civilization Webring Forum AiC[*] Civilization Webring Forum Arne[*] Civilization Webring Forum Barthi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Blocki88[*] Civilization Webring Forum Bonaparte[*] Civilization Webring Forum c4master[*] Civilization Webring Forum Chris[*] Civilization Webring Forum chuckylein[*] Civilization Webring Forum Cobra[*] Civilization Webring Forum Dante[*] Civilization Webring Forum Darekill[*] Civilization Webring Forum Fenris[*] Civilization Webring Forum Kassian[*] Civilization Webring Forum kronic[*] Civilization Webring Forum Lemming[*] Civilization Webring Forum lowcut[*] Civilization Webring Forum Lufia[*] Civilization Webring Forum Maker[*] Civilization Webring Forum Mr. Gandhi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Radyserb[*] Civilization Webring Forum robertinho[*] Civilization Webring Forum sethos[*] Civilization Webring Forum Shaft[*] Civilization Webring Forum Thoddy[*] Civilization Webring Forum toreg[*] Civilization Webring Forum User[*] Civilization Webring Forum Willi[*] Civilization Webring Forum Xardas[*] Civilization Webring Forum zer0her0[*] Gamecatcher Kundor[*] Gamecatcher Talar[*] UnClassified Adrian Santos[*] UnClassified Alejandro[*] UnClassified Alejandro Gaita[*] UnClassified Apostolos[*] UnClassified Black[*] UnClassified Cap Petusah[*] UnClassified Daniel[*] UnClassified Filippo[*] UnClassified Gilbert Barillé[*] UnClassified Greetz[*] UnClassified hanti[*] UnClassified Jadelicia[*] UnClassified Jeff Young[*] UnClassified Jimmywax [*] UnClassified jonel1111[*] UnClassified Jonellll[*] UnClassified José Antonio López Rey[*] UnClassified Kevin Pulliam [*] UnClassified Ljube[*] UnClassified Marcos[*] UnClassified Matt[*] UnClassified q# [*] UnClassified Sergio[*] UnClassified Sérgio Pereira[*] UnClassified Smik Lakhani[*] UnClassified Smiklakhani[*] UnClassified TemporalAnomaly[*] UnClassified Tom McAnally[*] UnClassified Zabba149[/list=1]
-----------------------------------------------------
Where has it been posted?
The petition has been posted in the following threads on the following respective sites.
-----------------------------------------------------
Can I still sign up?
Definitely. All that is required for you to sign is your username and an email address. Signatures can be submitted in this thread or in the other threads as mentioned previously. If you wish for your email to remain confidential you can PM (Private Message) myself or send an email to harrytuttle@civilization2.net
The petition will be finalized on June 1, 2005 at which point it will be presented to the respective holders of the Source Code.
-----------------------------------------------------
What happened to the old Apolyton Civ 2 Source Code Thread?
After our little mishap with the forum the following thread was recovered which should contain the entirety of the original Apolyton Civ 2 Source Code thread:
-----------------------------------------------------
Comment