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    yah

    but I look at what he seems to care about

    and that all went well

    big businesses interestse were enhanced

    the republican party did well

    those seem to be the things he cares about

    I use to think more of him, not now...

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    Originally posted by Giancarlo


    Absolutely not. The current policy in Iraq is a working policy and I give you scorn for suggesting otherwise. We didn't break anything. Iraq was already broken. And it isn't mine. It is the people of Iraq.
    I collect scorn. It's a hobby of mine. I have scorn from the left, scorn form the right. It's a beautiful collection.

    Iraq is yours to bleed over, until they can replace you without descending into a fundamentalist hell.
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    was it broken in 93?

    I agree that after making it so Saddam couldnt' rule parts of the country, and the oil embargo, it was broken

    but before, how was it different from China?

    or other first world freindly authoritative nations?
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    Originally posted by Jon Miller
    yah

    but I look at what he seems to care about

    and that all went well

    big businesses interestse were enhanced

    the republican party did well

    those seem to be the things he cares about

    I use to think more of him, not now...

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    I'm not sure what you mean when the DOW has been parked since he came in. His party has done well, is that a crime of his?

    After that speech, I would like to watch and see what he and his admin actually does before heaping further abuse on him.
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    Originally posted by Jon Miller
    was it broken in 93?

    I agree that after making it so Saddam couldnt' rule parts of the country, and the oil embargo, it was broken

    but before, how was it different from China?

    or other first world freindly authoritative nations?
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    Geopolitics for $200, Alex.

    Who started two wars in sensitive areas of the world that endangered oil deliveries to Europe, Japan, and North America?
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    ok, I agree that on some level; thta was reasojn for war (I am not saying a good reason, or a just reason, but I could imagine people saying that that was a good reasonj)

    I was refering to Giancarloes statement that Iraq was already broken

    but for the first term we could have the wait and see policy, than we were suppose to vote based upon what we saw

    now we have no choice but to pressure against him (well, we could also do a revolution, but I dont' think that generally goes well)

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    Geez Jon... you are drunk! And I'm not referring to your spelling this time!
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    I liked this inaugural speech. It was very visionary, idealistic even, yet at the same time down to earth in that it put into simple and easy-to-understand sentences, the challenges - and eventually the rewards - of working towards enabling people of every country to choose for themselves, to break free from oppression and thus to parttake peacefully in world affairs.

    It was well delivered (halleluja!) and he seemed very sincere about it. Certainly the most "presidential" I remember ever seeing George W. Bush.

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    Let's hope the actor they hired can keep it up.
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    I'm not at all cynical. Nope, not me.
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    Originally posted by St Leo
    Make the choice to serve in a cause larger than your wants, larger than yourself - and in your days you will add not just to the wealth of our country, but to its character.

    Hmm. Somehow, I expect Bush to de-emphasize the good bits of individualism and emphasize the bad ones.
    He's not being a globalist, it is bible-bashing bullsh*t...

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    If not, it is certainly nothing more than rhetoric...
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    ... and certainly not as much as that bloke.
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    You appear to be following me like a bad smell
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    Originally posted by notyoueither
    Let's hope the actor they hired can keep it up.
    Originally posted by notyoueither
    I'm not at all cynical. Nope, not me.
    Perhaps he was given some of Ronald Reagan's left behind coughing syrup, or something.

    He should've taken more than half a teaspoon of it though.

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    Whose posts followed whose, pepe?
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    Originally posted by notyoueither


    I collect scorn. It's a hobby of mine. I have scorn from the left, scorn form the right. It's a beautiful collection.
    I love hot buttered pop scorn, and have a collection of particularly attractive scorn dollies.
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    Serious Question:

    How did the Chief Justice fare? I heard he's on his last legs, was he alright on the day?

    Next person to say own goal, I'll hunt them down and **** them up.
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    Rehnquist only came on the podium a few minutes before the swearing in, and left shortly thereafter. Don't really know if that's part of the protocol, I don't think it is. He had a single Marine escort and walked with a cane, but managed to smile to some of the guests as he entered.

    He conducted the short swearing in flawlessly, still with authority in his voice, but overall he seemed very fragile.

    I personally thought Rehnquist's attendance one of the most moving parts of the ceremony. He made it, but you knew it was his last time. But then I'm a bit odd you know.

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    Some interesting 'world press' comments on the speech.

    The democracy President Bush's administration is promising is a bloody one. It has, up to now, claimed the lives of 100,000 martyrs, with the same number being wounded. It has turned the country into a failed one, where chaos and booby-trapped cars prevail... As long as the US policies continue as they are at the moment, then all the American talk about democracy and liberties will remain ink on paper.

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4194221.stm
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    No mention, of course, of the folks who set the car bombs and whatnot. Fair and Balanced, just like Fox.

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    I love to see Bush loves freedom-the freedom to make ou voice heard, throught a double line of cops in riot gear and whatnot.

    Like Stewart said on the Daily Show, liberty and freedom, offer not valid in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan (could have also said Egypt, Tunisia, Kuwait, whatever).

    The moral question of the day is who can trully expand freedom. The uS has the might, but sadly, not the moral fiber to do so. You can't really expand freedom if you have a BRAND of freedom you espouse. In the end, freedom is about choosing your own way- which makes freedom through foreign invasion by one specific state then carrying out an occupation a teneous tool at best, given that the very notion of an Occupation is the denial of freedom for a certain amount of time.
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    Can't we have even a single Bush-thread without the mandatory nazi-comparisons?

    Make the choice to serve in a cause larger than your wants, larger than yourself - and in your days you will add not just to the wealth of our country, but to its character
    Spoken like a true rich draft-dodging yankee cokehead... Oh wait, he can't be one, he wears a cowboy hat, remember? It proves that he cares for middle-class, is a southerner, and has already done his part in helping the country against it's enemies.

    Amazing how easy it is to ask everyone else to do something you've never done, isn't it?

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    Originally posted by VJ
    Spoken like a true rich draft-dodging yankee cokehead...
    Was Kennedy a cokehead?
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    Bush is a Yankee.
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    I'm talking about Bush's speech, the one posted in the first post of this thread.

    What are you talking about?

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    Originally posted by VJ
    What are you talking about?
    His speech remonded me of Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".

    And since Kennedy was a rich Yankee (who I could imagine to be a draft dodger)...
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    Kennedy was an aircraft pilot in WWII IIRC. Bush posed in an army suit on an aircraft carrier in the middle of an Ocean. Once.

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    If anyone still believes in the nonsense about "the liberal media", then you should have watched CNN's coverage of the inauguration. Utter propaganda and Bush-ass-licking.
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