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  • #16
    Rather than permaban it, just give it a 50% PCR.
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    • #17
      To the people who say this will never happen, I point to the case a couple of years ago when the joint EU council decided to politically isolate for months the member state of Austria - because the rest of the EU didn't like how their (democratic) elections and subsequent forming of a coalition government turned out.

      On occasion, the EU wishes so much to put its foot down and do "the right thing" that it will gladly abandon any sensible reasoning of the wider perspective.

      I agree BTW, that while Germany may have understandable and proper cause for upholding such a ban, the rest of Europe ought to stay clear of restrictions.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Verto
        Then ban the hammer and sickle.
        Ban the cross too, while you are at it.
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        • #19
          Edit/ Although I'd be interested to see the public reaction in Britain if it's tried. How many people actually would fight for the right to free expression of something they loathed?
          It would probably make Prince Harry a hero, in one of the most ironic turnabouts in history.
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          • #20
            Rather than restricting freedom, maybe they could enlarge it. *Ahem*, French school dress laws. *Ahem*
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            • #21
              This is a classic example of a law which doesn't need to be directivized. There's no need to force every German law down every member nation's throats.

              Rather than restricting freedom, maybe they could enlarge it. *Ahem*, French school dress laws. *Ahem*
              Japanese have school uniforms -- isn't it even 'worse' in that regard? Why aren't you ever bashing 'em for those?

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              • #22
                So Germany thinks that German laws should be enforced on the rest of Europe? Doesn't that sound familiar? Do I hear the jackboots marching?

                Anyway, what would happen to the Finnish presidential flag?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by VJ
                  Japanese have school uniforms -- isn't it even 'worse' in that regard? Why aren't you ever bashing 'em for those?
                  Do they ban yarmelkes from Jewish students or head dress from Sikhs? Or a simple cross? If they did, I would bash them.
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                  • #24
                    Do they ban yarmelkes from Jewish students or head dress from Sikhs? Or a simple cross? If they did, I would bash them.
                    So you're honestly thinking that they banned dresses, which cover so much skin that it's impossible to tell one student apart from another, just because they were muslim symbols?

                    Stefu: What about Finnish Air Force?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by VJ

                      So you're honestly thinking that they banned dresses, which cover so much skin that it's impossible to tell one student apart from another, just because they were muslim symbols?
                      What?
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                      • #26
                        Re: ?

                        Never mind, then...

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                        • #27
                          Didn't they ban crosses, and yarmelkes, and Sikh head dress, and everything else along with the burka? I seem to have read many French posters saying that they totally agreed with it as it went hand in hand with the tradition of anti-religious feeling within the Republic(s).

                          Muslim girls wear burkas, ban crosses! It makes total sense.
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                          • #28
                            Ban the cross too, while you are at it.
                            Sure, why not?

                            There go half the flags of Europe.


                            Hey, maybe that's the whole plan of the EU.
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                            • #29
                              Yeah, let's team up with China - ban Falun Gong!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                                Yeah, let's team up with China - ban Falun Gong!

                                The Nazi swastika, as far as I can ascertain, is usually or always, a right facing black swastika. Celtic and Asian swastikas (and swastika type symbols found in other cultures such as Native American) usually face left.

                                Besides, the Nazi swastika usually comes in black, on a white circle on a red ground. It's not likely it would be mistaken for a 3000 year old Celtic artefact or part of a Tibetan Buddhist mandala.
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