I'm sure Ted Striker was instrumental in bringing about the Yushchenko victory.

Since my thread would inevitably have the best title, it was my solemn duty to start this new one.
(Of course, in reality US of E would be a few provinces bigger, but we haven't got the new map yet so whatevs)
Yuschenko
Yanukovich
Freedom
Russian imperialism
Ted Striker![]()
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I'm sure Ted Striker was instrumental in bringing about the Yushchenko victory.
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Partition Ukraine!

will everyone PLEASE be nice to the Russians, this is a difficult time for some of them.
Russians: we LIKE you, we REALLY LIKE you.![]()
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Yuschenko![]()
Yanukovich![]()
Freedom![]()
Russian Imperialism![]()
American Imperialism![]()
Ted Striker![]()
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Stalinland?
Shame on you, its Brezhneville!![]()
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Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko.

fair election![]()
Ukrainian unity![]()
Dioxin poisoning![]()
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theories![]()
Ukraine continuing to get along with Russia, AND the West![]()
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"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Yushchenko![]()
Capitalism![]()
Putin![]()
This is a new era in Ukrainean politics, as for the first time in 300 years it will start to move away from Russian control and tyranny.

Ok, so which is better?
Stalinland![]()
Kruschevburg![]()
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Brezhneville![]()
Chernenko Park![]()
Andropov Town![]()
If you don't like reality, change it! me
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"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko.
Sure. The people picked Chavez, too. The people pick all sorts of people.
And Yanukovich is no commie.

partitioning between Germany and Russia![]()
Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference.Originally posted by Azazel
Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko.
Sure. The people picked Chavez, too. The people pick all sorts of people.
And Yanukovich is no commie.

Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference.
Wait, what do you think goes on in the Ukraine right now? It has democracy and freedom, the way you like it. The only thing Yuschenko adds to the mix is a lil bit of ukrainian nationalism.![]()
Some people have no idea, I guess.

Originally posted by Stefu
Since my thread would inevitably have the best title, it was my solemn duty to start this new one.
(Of course, in reality US of E would be a few provinces bigger, but we haven't got the new map yet so whatevs)
Yuschenko
Yanukovich
Freedom
Russian imperialism
Ted Striker
Originally posted by Last Conformist
I'm sure Ted Striker was instrumental in bringing about the Yushchenko victory.Originally posted by Azazel
Yuschenko![]()
Yanukovich![]()
Freedom![]()
Russian Imperialism![]()
American Imperialism![]()
Ted Striker![]()
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Ruslana![]()

Forza Italia, yes?
my father and brother were just on about how good strong leadership would be for the west, with no freedom of thought (!) and all... what is it with people nowadays? would YOU like being oppressed, no matter how good strong leadership sounds?
Nationalism is not bad, especially if it is against a nation like Russia.Originally posted by Azazel
Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference.
Wait, what do you think goes on in the Ukraine right now? It has democracy and freedom, the way you like it. The only thing Yuschenko adds to the mix is a lil bit of ukrainian nationalism.![]()
Some people have no idea, I guess.
I am for freedom of thought. Yushchenko is for freedom and democracy, whereas Yanukovich represents the old Kuchma order that was silencing people. Check your allegiances. And check your comments. Forza Italia is a great coalition of heroes that stands for freedom. So shut up.Originally posted by Ecthelion
Forza Italia, yes?
my father and brother were just on about how good strong leadership would be for the west, with no freedom of thought (!) and all... what is it with people nowadays? would YOU like being oppressed, no matter how good strong leadership sounds?

Nationalism is not bad, especially if it is against a nation like Russia.
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how free is a coalition that stays in power by changing law according to their own interests and not the people's![]()

everyone laugh at Gian![]()

just heard the Ukrainian Transport Minister found dead. Anyone know whats happening?
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Debates at poly getting simpler and easier to follow.![]()
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For which we can thank Ted Striker![]()
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look at your stupid country.Originally posted by Ecthelion
how free is a coalition that stays in power by changing law according to their own interests and not the people's![]()

Normally, the winner of a presidential election comes to power.
In Ukraine, the winner first comes to power, and after that wins the election.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.
No.. that's more russian style. Putin kept the power and rigged the election.Originally posted by The Vagabond
Normally, the winner of a presidential election comes to power.
In Ukraine, the winner first comes to power, and after that wins the election.![]()

There is a related Russian saying: However many times you repeat the word 'sugar', you won't get sweet taste in the mouth.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Russians: we LIKE you, we REALLY LIKE you.![]()
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

Originally posted by Giancarlo
No.. that's more russian style. Putin kept the power and rigged the election.![]()
Putin didn't need to rig it. His advantage was overwhelming anyway.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.
Yeah he had his soldiers vote 20 times each.Originally posted by The Vagabond
Putin didn't need to rig it. His advantage was overwhelming anyway.
Not to mention cast a few million fradulant ballots.. and despite international objections, silence the opposition.
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