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    Society VI: Clouded Visions

    Basics

    Gameplay takes place on a square grid map, on which cities are built. Each society lives on the following resources.

    Gold comes from cities and is used to build weapons, research technology, expand you empire, and just about everything else.

    Technology increases your tax revenue as well as your army's effectiveness.

    Armies capture enemy cities, and inflict damage on enemy invaders.



    Setup

    In the beginning, the world was created

    Players sign up in the thread. When signup is closed, the GM generates a square map with an area as close to 12 squares per player as possible. CHANGE: The map will be a bit bigger for this one game. Map is labelled with letters across and numbers down.

    Settlement

    The GM will arrange player starting locations equidistantly but randomly.

    Starting Resources

    Each player starts with 1 city and 20 gold.




    Map Adjacency

    Two squares on the map are adjacent if they have a common edge. Catty-corner squares are not adjacent.


    The sides and top and bottom of the map wrap around and people can attack over the edges.


    Gameplay

    Gameplay is synchronous, with players issuing orders each day. Each player's turn is made up of the following parts:



    1. Espionage

    2. Trade

    3. Production

    4. Foreign Aid

    5. War

    6. Tax Collection




    Expanded Turn Sequence- orders are processed down the turn sequence list, first in, first processed.

    1a. Espionage: New spy is trained.

    1b. Espionage: New spy can be used immediately, or stockpiled.

    No Spies can be used against this phase

    2a. Trade: Money in Treasury can be used for trade. Cost is based on the tech levels on the chart, not new research.

    2b. Trade: Payout is collected. Bonuses for governments are factored in the payout. This money goes into Treasury and can be budgeted in this very production turn as part of your orders.

    Each spy can target the entire trade phase

    3a. Production: Scientific Research

    3b. Production: Military (armies, nukes, SDI)

    3c. Production: Cities

    3d. Production: Wonders and Spaceships

    3e. Conquered cities rehabilitated free of charge.

    Each spy can only target one of the production phases

    4a. Foreign Aid: You can give away anything, but not cities. There's too much potential for abuse there.

    Each spy can target the entire foreign aid phase

    5a. War: Wars are fought based on the sequence orders are recieved by the GM. If an army is unable to fight a war due to someone else beating them to the target, it will stay home and defend. (This is not Galactic Overlord where ships travel through hyperspace, here your troops are within your nation until they invade the enemy) The person initiating the war can decide whether to use armies or nukes first.

    Each spy can target the entire war phase

    6a. Tax Collection: City Income + Wonder Income (From Specific Wonders such as the Tower of Babel). Government bonuses are applied at time of tax collection. A Republic generates 10 gold * cities * tech, for example.

    Taxation is inevitable. It is immune to Espionage



    Governments

    You start in Despotism. Change governments by Revolution. You will forfeit your entire turn when you have a Revolution except for one phase of your choice which must be stated in your orders for revolution.


    In a Revolution unless you use your free action to harvest taxes from all your citizens, you only collect half taxes.

    code:

    Despotism- Free army support.
    You can only collect taxes from a maximum of 6 cities in a Despotism.
    Monarchy- +50% tax, trade, and wonder income/turn.
    You can only collect taxes from a maximum of 12 cities in a Monarchy.
    Army support cost = army size / cities
    Republic- Double tax, trade, and wonder income/turn
    Army support cost = army size



    (Clarification: Republic (or Monarchy) trade: A Republic gets the bonuses both when sending and recieving. The trading partner does not get the bonus; a Despotism recieving trade from a Republic still gets base value.)



    Army support will be deducted from Taxation at the end of the turn, if this results in a negative, armies will be disbanded until Tax Income - Army Support = 0



    Orders

    Orders are PM'd to the GM. Sample orders:


    Espionage
    Send spy to sabotauge Ljube's army recruitment.

    Trade
    Send 1 Caravan to Gamecube64
    Send 1 Caravan to Smiley
    Send 3 Caravans to Jonny
    Send 3 Caravans to Whoha

    WHOHA (3)(8+8)= 48 cost (8)(8)(3) = 192 gold
    JONNY (3)(8+9)= 51 cost (8)(9)(3) = 216 gold
    SMILEY (1)(8+8)= 16 cost (8)(8) = 64 gold
    GAMECUBE (1)(8+8)= 16 cost (8)(8) =64 gold
    --
    Income from Trade- 536 gold

    Research
    Tech 9- 91 gp
    Tech 10- 220 gp
    Tech 11- 356 gp

    COST: 667 GP

    Cities
    Build City K 12 (cost 121) = City 11.

    Armies
    Build 45 armies at tech 11. (Cost 495)

    Foreign Aid
    send Tech 9,10,11 to Whoha

    TOTAL UNITS
    63.

    WAR
    Send 50 Soldiers against Ljube.

    GOLD
    128 GP LEFT
    ---------------------



    Espionage

    Once you discover Espionage (Tech Level 7) you gain one Spy every turn at the beginning of your Espionage turn. Spies are free and can be stockpiled up to a maximum of 5.

    You may send this Spy at any other player and target any one of the other player's actions, except for Tax Collection and Espionage. That player's action is negated for the turn. Should two players send spies at each other, regardless of phase targeted, neither spy gets through and both societies proceed as normal.

    Spies sent to a society in a revolution are lost. spies can target a Society in a revolution as there is now production in a revolution, however, if the spy is sent to another phase it is lost as in other instances

    You may use a Spy to defend any phase (or part of a Production phase) against all enemy spy action. Afterwards your Spy is retired, whether or not it actually comes into play.

    CHANGE: A spy sent to defend will only stop the first spy trying to sabotage that function. Additional spys may be set to defend a function, but will only stop equal number of opposing spys, even if from different enemies.



    Trade

    You can trade with any society as many spaces away as your Tech Level. For example, at Tech 1, you can only trade with adjacent neighbors. At Tech 2, there can be one square separation. There is no longer a minimum tech level for trading.

    Cost = Sum of tech levels between you and trading partner.

    Payout= Product of tech levels, to both societies. You may only trade with adjacent neighbors whom you are not currently at war with. Peace may be declared by both players allowing a return to trading on the same turn it is declared. A declaration of peace by one side results in remaining at war and no trade is possible

    Gold from trade can be budgeted into your Production turn. You cannot send additional caravans with gold made from caravans just sent the same turn. Should your trading be interdicted by spies, please list what expenditure to cut, or the GM will take stuff off the back of your list.



    Production

    Aside from Caravans, gold can also be spent on building cities, researching technology, armies, building Wonders, nukes, SDI defense satellites, and spaceship parts.



    Cities

    Base Income = Cities x Technology Level x 5



    Build additional cities in the same way the first is built, with one exception. New cities must be adjacent to an existing one. If you don't give coordinates, the GM will build cities in a way to minimize your borders.

    The cost of building a new city is equal to 3x the number it will be

    code:

    City Cost
    ----------
    1 free
    2 6
    3 9
    4 12





    Technology

    Buy Technology with Gold. You must buy them in sequence, but you can buy more than one if you can afford it.



    The more people who have a tech, the cheaper it is to research it.

    Cost = Base Price * (P - R )/ P

    P = Total number of players

    R= Number of players who have discovered that particular technology.



    code:

    Tech Name Cost Allows
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    1 Masonry free Colosseum
    2 Iron Working 4 Tower of Babel
    3 Monarchy 8 Trojan Horse, Monarchy
    4 Architecture 12 Silk Road
    5 Geography 20 Acropolis
    6 Religion 32 Jihad
    7 Espionage 52 Mafia, Spies
    8 Industrialization 84 Trans Siberian RR
    9 Representative Government 136 National Rifle Association, Republic
    10 Mass Education 220 Univ. of California
    11 Nuclear Fission 356 NASCAR, Nukes
    12 Miniaturization 576 KGB
    13 Space Flight 932 Majestic-12, SDI
    14 The Laser 1508 Galactic Overlord
    15 Fusion Power 2440 Spaceship Parts
    16 The Flux Capacitor 3948 O-rings
    17 Inductive Pulse Field 6388 Pulse-Field Generator
    18 Nano Diodes 10336 Nano Mfg. Corp.
    19 Subline Warp Fields 16724 Warp Generator
    20 Tunneling Gamma Quarks 27060 The Gamma Machine
    21 Artificial Intelligence 43784 The Universal Intelligence
    22 Impossible Structures 70844 The Superstring Elevator






    Special Units

    Buy these like you buy anything else.



    Caravans:
    Cost = Sum of tech levels between you and trading partner. Reward = Product of tech levels, to both societies.



    Nukes:
    Cost = 500, destroys 1 enemy city starting with non-wonder cities, wonder cities cannot be nuked until all other cities have been captured/destroyed. Nuked spaces cannot be reused.



    SDI:

    Cost = 500, each will stop 1 nuke from hitting you per turn.



    Spaceship Parts:

    Cost = 1000 each. You can only build one per turn, and need 4 to win. You can overpay on the 4th part, whoever spends the most wins a tie.




    Wonders of the World


    There are 14, one for each tech level. Wonders for levels after 14 can be used to destroy other players' space shuttle parts.


    Only one Wonder may be built in each city. The base cost of each wonder is the square of its tech level. You may, however, overspend. In the case more than one player gives orders to build the same Wonder, the one who spends the most gets it. In ties, first to send orders wins. Loser gets their gold back.



    Wonders are captured when a player is eliminated. Allies must agree who gets it.



    It may appear that many of the wonders might be unbalancing, but don't worry, forum games seem to have a natural way of correcting any sort of imbalance.



    1. Colosseum- makes you immune to enemy attack. Expires with anyone reaches Industrialization (#8). Clarification: If you attack someone, they get one counterattack.

    2. Tower of Babel- Generates gold per turn equal to the square of your tech level.

    3. Trojan Horse- you get a spy every turn before Espionage (#7), and Sabotauge of the Espionage Phase is allowed afterwards.

    4. Silk Road- Your caravans are free. Additionaly, every turn you receive 10% of worldwide trade. (Worldwide trade being defined as the gross income of the senders; not the combined net income of senders/recipients) Expires with Mass Education (#10)

    5. Acropolis- you have the option to change to Republic even without the technology. You still need a Revolution.

    6. Jihad - Allows the Society to attack all cities without a war declaration (unlike a sneak attack which only allows the attack of adjecent cities).

    7. Mafia- All Cities can be taxed even if your nation is a Despotism or a Monarchy.

    8. Trans-Siberian Railroad- Your new cities may be built anywhere.

    9. National Rifle Association- The First turn of a declared war is treated like a sneak attack. Only border cities may be taken.

    10. University of California- Allows you to build anything that you have not yet discovered the technology for, providing that someone else has (spaceship parts, wonders, nukes, SDI).

    11. NASCAR- You can trade with yourself. Your Caravans are Free. (income per caravan = 0.75 * square of your tech level) [Note: You only get income once- you don't get double trade income]

    12. KGB- When built, allows you to designate any other wonder obsolete. After use the wonder is obsolete.

    13. Majestic-12 Program- your nuclear missiles can only be taken down by a grid of at least 3 SDIs.

    14. Galactic Overlord- SDI satellites of all nations are used to defend your nation.






    Foreign Aid

    Once per turn you may grant any or all the following to any one other nation. You must be adjacent to provide military aid.

    1. Technology

    2. Military units

    3. Spies, nukes, SDI.

    4. Gold

    Wonders, cities and spaceship parts are not grantable.


    When gifting technology, you may only gift a max of ONE technology per turn.


    War

    Buy armies with Gold. The cost per army is your Tech Level. When you advance in technology, existing armies are automatically upgraded free of charge.



    You can fight one war per turn with an adjacent society. Your armies sent to attack do not defend. Specify target and number of armies to commit.



    Declaring war

    Normal diplomatic procedure is to declare war one turn before attack. You may carry out sneak attacks, but under such cases you are limited to capturing cities directly adjacent to your territory.



    Theater of operations

    Rank the enemy cities in preference of which ones you'd like to capture. Each city must be adjacent to your territory or to a city further up the list. If you don't the GM will take cities in a way to minimize your borders.



    Capturing cities

    The attacker is the only one who can capture cities. Factors include army size vs. defender technology, number of defenders per enemy city, and the ratio between attacker and defender's technology.

    C = ((A / DT) - (D / DC)) * (AT / DT), round down.

    C= cities captured

    A = attacker's army size

    D = defender's army size

    AT = attacker's tech level

    DT = defender's tech level

    DC = defender's number of cities



    Captured cities do not generate income on the turn they are captured.



    Two-way attacks

    When two nations attack each other on the same turn, the armies first fight each other. Compare strength:

    A1 * A1T vs. A2 *A2T

    A1 = attacker 1's army size

    A2 = attacker 2's army size

    A1T = attacker 1's tech level

    A2T = attacker 2's tech level



    The loser's entire attacking army is destroyed. The winner's attacking army takes casualties based on the difference.



    Survivors = Difference / Tech Level, round up.



    Taking casualties

    Attacker takes casualties as follows:

    Casualties = D / AT.

    Defender takes casualties as follows:

    Casualties = (D / DC) * cities lost.



    Nuclear War

    1. Launching Nukes

    A Nuclear Volley can be launched at any nation regardless of state of war. However, any stockpiled nukes in that nation will be immediately used as a response volley and the nations will be considered to be at war for the rest of the duration of the game.

    2. State of Nuclear War

    Once a nation launches a Nuclear Volley, they are considered to be at war with the nation they attacked for the duration of the game.

    3. Attacking Across Nuked Spaces

    Attacking across nuked territory is allowed, but if your tech is less than 15, you lose half your armies from the radiation. If it is 15 or greater, but still less than 20, then you lose 25% of your armies. If 20 or greater, you lose no armies.



    Tax Collection

    Restock your treasury for the next turn as follows:



    Income = Cities x Tech Level x 5

    (+50% for Monarchy, round up, double for Republic)

    Cities captured on the current turn do not generate tax income until the following turn



    Victory

    Conquest- self explanatory

    Spaceship- build spaceship. There are 4 parts, each costing 1000 gold. You can only build 1 per turn. The first to complete a spaceship wins. The fourth part, the Engines, can cost as much as one wants to pay for them. Should two players complete spaceships in one turn, the one with the more expensive engine wins.

    Cultural- build and hold 7 wonders, or build/conquer 10 wonders

    Domination- achieve an unassailable position of power where GM and other players concede.

    Technological- Research 22 Technologies




    It is possible for two players to complete different Victory conditions on the same turn, this results in a dual victory.


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    Society Cities Tech Army SS Parts Nukes SDI Gold
    Muxec 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Whoha 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    :) Smiley 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Spaced Cowboy 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Vlad Antlerkov 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Jonny 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Sparrowhawk 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
    Kassiopeia 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
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    I'd change muxec's color to something other than white, unless you dont think he'll ever build or take a wonder.
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    *Remember, the map wraps around
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    DAY 0: The Creation
    In the beginning... the world was created- formless, and out of this arose... LIFE... and then ... INTELLIGENCE... and finally- CIVILIZA-SOCIETIES!

    After years of peace, the world has finally decided to civilize. As such, they have put their trust in seven leaders and given them powers of life and death over them. Each leader, however, has a much different view of how life can be made better- and thus they are doomed to conflict with each other in the search for natural resources...

    Some might head towards the skies... some might put their enemies to the sword... and others might develop new fuel technologies, thereby ascending to a greater plane and making life unnecessary.

    But each of them holds their own vision... one which the others might describe as "Clouded" by prejudices... and because of this- there is conflict... and they fight.

    The Players
    Vlad Antlerkov-
    Dictator of the The Empire of Somewhat Moderately Evilness

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    Dictator of The Most Evil of Empires

    Smiley
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    Jonny
    Emperor-For-Life of The Empire of Enlightenment

    Sparrowhawk
    King Sparrow of the Coven of Hawks

    muxec
    Spiritual Leader of The Not So Bad Empire

    Kassiopeia
    Overlord of Imperial Finland
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    New Map.

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    sent!
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    Sent.

    And by the way, if you are still wanting city names, my lone city is called Falcon.

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    Edit: Question on the "Map Wrapping"......it wraps left to right only, not top to bottom correct? (I assume so, but just want to clarify to avoid confusion later).
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    A little bird told me there's room for one more player. Am I In?
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    Darkcloud posted this:

    Originally posted by DarkCloud
    okay, we can take at most one new empire- but I'll see about starting this today.
    Around 2 hours ago in the sign up thread, so it looks like there is still room

    /me who looks at Kassiopeia funny for talking to birds
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    Sent.

    Kassiopeia, welcome
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    Yay.

    Bow down to Overlord Kassiopeia of Imperial Finland (which is evil beyond any others, even Whoha's)!
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    Originally posted by Sparrowhawk
    * Sparrowhawk who looks at Kassiopeia funny for talking to birds
    Hey pot, this is kettle, you're black!
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    Uh oh, the Evil Finns are here!

    sent. (map to follow once Kass is added)
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    Change vlad's color in the chart; his line is currently very hard to read.

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    Originally posted by civman2000
    Change vlad's color in the chart; his line is currently very hard to read.
    The funny thing is, mine is probably the EASIEST to read for me (largely because I use the MOO3 style).

    Oh yeah, sent.

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    Originally posted by civman2000
    Change vlad's color in the chart; his line is currently very hard to read.
    Agreed... that black on blue is hard on the eyes.

    And orders on the way.

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    As a past GM and map maker I support the phaseout of 0,0,255 blue for a 0,192,255 blue.
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    I'll deal with the other stuff later- but yes the map wraps top and bottom.

    here's the new map.
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    Best part of the wraparound all sides map is that everyone can see themselves at the center of the world!
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    Looking at the map, sent (my initial orders stand).
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    Sent.

    And FWIW, the wraparound makes the world into a torus. Could you try mapping the world in that way, Smiley?

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    fixed vlad's colors. sorry about the slow update.
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    Day 1: The Founding

    DAY 1: The Founding

    And thus the nations were founded.

    In the ancient age of 4000 BC, the Emperors, Despots, and Dictators put their people to work.

    In the Empires of Vlad Antlerkov, Smiley, Spaced Cowboy, Sparrowhawk, and muxec, scientists were put to work, inventing new technologies such as IRON WORKING.

    Kassiopeia, Jonny, and Whoha constructed new citadels to house their burgeoning populations.

    And finally, even though dictator Vlad, Spiritual Leader muxec, and others pledged golden coins to the construction of the Tower of Babel- Emperor Spaced Cowboy and the Empire of the Dudes built the wonder first, humilitating the others.

    The Players



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    Vlad Antlerkov-
    Dictator of the The Empire of Somewhat Moderately Evilness

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    -Suomithreadii (G10)
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    Day 1: The Founding

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    Muxec 1 2 0 0 0 0 12
    Whoha 2 1 0 0 0 0 10
    :) Smiley 1 2 0 0 0 0 12
    Spaced Cowboy 1 2 0 0 0 0 14
    Vlad Antlerkov 1 2 0 0 0 0 12
    Jonny 2 1 0 0 0 0 10
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    there... finally... at long last-

    now let's do it again!

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    Question: How is wonder income calculated?

    Tax Collection: City Income / Wonder Income. Government bonuses are applied at time of tax collection. A Republic generates 10 gold * cities * tech, for example.
    doesn't make sense to me?
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    To fix/balance: at the first turn many players try to build tower of babel and all spend only 1 gold on it... The first to send wins... Not so good situation...
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    I think the confusing part is the "/" which should be either a "+" or perhaps "and".

    Basically (or this is how I interpret anyway) the Wonder income is adjusted for Government the same as Tax Collection. Therefore in addition to his regular tax collection that we all get, Spaced Cowboy's calculation should be something like:
    (1 city x tech 2) x 5 (despotism) = 10 gold
    + Wonder Income (for the Tower): Tech 2 ^ 2 (squared) x Government level = 4 Gold
    (x 1 Despotism); (x 1.5 Monarchy) (x 2 Republic)

    Same fomula for any other Gold Generating wonder.

    /me hopes he is answering the question asked and not rambling
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