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    The Builders Games

    Update: Two games are going. One player is looking for a partner.

    I'm looking for players who want to participate in the following game:

    # Each game has two players only, no AI

    # Standard pangea map, all other settings random, including civ choice

    # Winners move on to play other winners

    Hopefully, the starts will give everyone enough room to test civ building skills.

    Iron civ rules.

    If there is interest, I'm happy to patrol threads to make sure games are kept speedy.
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    I am somewhat interested, standard map scares me a bit tho, that will be a loong game

    I'm just in need of some PBEM desperately, now that i dont have much work until January, and nothing much to do at the moment

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    I'm willing to give it a go.
    Even a fool is thought wise if he remains silent.

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    What the heck, throw my name in too.

    my addy is wittlich(at)sbcglobal(dot)net
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    Originally posted by Conqueror
    I am somewhat interested, standard map scares me a bit tho, that will be a loong game

    I'm just in need of some PBEM desperately, now that i dont have much work until January, and nothing much to do at the moment
    He, he..... you can have your iron b game back

    You may be right about the map. Small pangea map with two civs may be plenty large enough.
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    We already have two games ready to go here. I would be happy to let conq beat me up. Soltz and Wittlich both come from the Left Coast.

    Do the rest of you agree with Conq's suggestion that the map should be smaller than standard?
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    I agree with smaller maps

    quicker games, victories and on to the next loss
    anti steam and proud of it

    CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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    Small map's fine with me.
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    Should we consider a 3rd party to check the map for relatively equal distribution of resources and starting positions ? (if such nice person is found)

    I have been Persia in 2 C3C PBEM games (both were random civs) and did not have any chanses of securing Iron in either of those games I definately dont want that to happen anymore

    Not to mention the elimination game where i ended up without Iron or Horses, and others were practically swimming in those resources I dont mind not having the resources, if others dont have them either
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    Conq -- do you have someone who could help that way?

    I have not got the slightest idea what the map generator does with strategic resources when you request only two civs. But I'm game to try a random start and play it, particularly with so much space. This game should be peaceful into the middle ages anyway. We might not find our opponent until then

    Conq and I have played in games before, but always as allies. I would like to play a game with him, if it is ok with everyone.

    Soltz and Wittlich appear to be well matched in their time zone. But so is PR. Let's see who shows up tomorrow and maybe start some games then.
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    Youre right, with only 2 pople on small map, i think one could survive the early game without resources.

    Lets try and we'll know

    Send me the save when you manage to create the game. Games on. You should still have my mail as we just exhanged some mails



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    (here's what Conqueror looks like after the game)

    doh thats enough smilie spam for today, i think

    off to bed

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    One more quick tought before zzz : what about disabling SGLs, they are a game killer IMHO.

    And could we use v.1.22 ? (atleast for our game, jshelr). I dont fancy going back to the stone-age 1.15 even some people wish to stick to it until the end of times

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    latest patch for sure. i don't think an sgl will be used to build the great library in this game

    can you disable the SGLs and launch or let me know how?
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    OK. I'll do that in the evening when i get home. (last 2 days of work before January).

    Im not sure how to disable SGL myself, but i know its possible. I'll try anyway

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    I am OK with any setting that is decided upon.
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    A suggestion. Perhaps Wittlich and Soltz should give it a go. Either one can start the game. If you want the SGL off, that is your option.

    PR will likely pick up another player today.
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    We can play from the threads if you wish. Procedure is to post saves (after the first one so a password is established). Then you delete your previous save when you post the next.

    This is much faster than direct email, amazingly enough.

    Why don't Conq and I start Builders One.
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    Ok, I will setup Soltz and my game and shoot it off to him.
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    Setting the game up, but I have a question. What do you mean by "Iron Civ Rules"?
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    Well, the random game picked Portugal for me and Egypt for Soltz.

    4000BC Turn sent to Soltz.
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    Created a new thread for me & jshelr to avoid confusion.

    http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=125260

    jshelr got Ottomans
    I had puny France.

    4000 BC sent to jshelr

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    iron civ rules are here in the second post, and on, and on, and on.....

    http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...3&pagenumber=1
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    bumpo. we need a player for PR
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    Ah ok....so they're basically a set of rules that dictate game conduct.

    Conqueror has a good idea about starting a seperate thread for the games that have started. I too will create a "Builders Games: Soltz vs. Wittlich" thread...this way, this thread will stay (relatively) clean to allow for other games to start up.
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    I'm in. Platypus, can you play at all on the weekend in "blitz" turns? I'd like to.

    Anywho, i'll start it up and send it to you.
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    Snoopy/Platypus thread

    For quick reference.
    Last edited by snoopy369; November 13, 2004 at 01:30.
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    Originally posted by Wittlich
    Ah ok....so they're basically a set of rules that dictate game conduct.

    Conqueror has a good idea about starting a seperate thread for the games that have started. I too will create a "Builders Games: Soltz vs. Wittlich" thread...this way, this thread will stay (relatively) clean to allow for other games to start up.
    I'll look for that thread

    I've played the turn and emailed it back already.
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    ....and Soltz found the thread (in case there are any lurkers who are waiting with baited breath for word of Soltz's thread search out come).


    EDIT: Plus this post bumps the thread.
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    I'm recommending that players agree not to build the SoZ. It's up to individual pairs, but with only two researching the SoZ will last forever and likely be the deciding factor in many games. (This is unrelated to the fact that Bongo is pounding me with ACs in iron b )
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    Some questions:

    1. I presume barbs are random as well.

    2. Can you attack the other player? The name of the thread would indicate that it is a rush to a cultural or space ship victory.

    3. I presume you can also trade techs with the other player?

    4. Any thoughts to trying to balnce the civs? If someone gets an agricultural civ in a game like this - it could be a big advantage.
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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