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    City walls bug?

    I've browsed through various bug-threads etc without finding anything so here goes:


    After I conquered the capital of another player in a PBEM (ironciver B), his capital jumped to another city. The city was a walled size 4 hill-city. Capital towns get city-size graphics, this also makes the wall become invisible. Appearantly, the wall also becomes indestructible.

    The game has halted due to a crash so the following is based on observing the last two turns. (no testing done)

    The last two turns, a group of 8 catapults have shelled the city, without causing any damage at all. With the wall having a base defence of 8, the odds of 16 failed catapult attacks is 1 in 656. If the wall gets the benefit of hills(not sure about this) the odds go down to 1 in 100.

    While this behaviour is not statistically impossible, it is in the area of things only a few players will experience.


    Is this a bug or just me having a very bad streak of RNG?


    (my record in the other direction is two SGLs in one turn)
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    I know for a fact that walls in a capital town get destroyed by bombardment, even if you canot see them.

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    Yeah, but did the Capital move there in the same fashion 'mine' did?

    Do walls get the benefit of terrain btw?



    Getting a one in 656 ain't bad huh?
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    Yes to all three, although the last one doesn't apply to you (yet).

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    Nah, it drops to 1 in 100 then... still not bad.

    At least it should make some of the other players shut up about my 'unnatural' luck
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    alex'll be right - 16 trials is not really enough to get a good indication. 3 times that amount MAYBE starting to show a trend.

    At least it should make some of the other players shut up about my 'unnatural' luck
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    Made another attempt, still no luck

    Now I hit the '1 in 1000' mark
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    What about the Great Wall? Is it in play? I think I heard that cats will target and try to "destroy" even free walls granted by the Great Wall - which they naturally fail to...

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    I think that bug was adressed in one of the patches..

    No GW in this game though...


    City walls on hills got 75% change of surviving one catapult attack ( 8*1.5 / ((8*1.5)+4) )

    The odds of surviving 24 attacks in a row is.. 1 in 997 actually, not 1 in 1000
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    So, how long did it take to land a critical blow on those walls? After I 'advanced the seed' in your save by taking the other city first, my third catapult strike took down the city walls. I think the RNG just dislikes 'information denial' proponents...
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    The walls are still there, I had to retreat to heal the protective pikes. Might give it another shot in a turn or two...
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