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  • #1

    I, Robot

    The movie inspired me to read the book. It was pretty good but left me with a few questions. I'll post them as I think of them. The first is that I was wondering why Dr. Calvin so compliantly accepts being lied to by a robot for argueably much more sinister motives than RD-34 who she "killed" earlier in the book?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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    Oh jeez... I bet you are underwhelmed at the making of an action movie from Asimov's masterpiece. I refuse to pay to see the movie after they butched the whole point of "I, Robot". Hell, they just bought the name after the movie was all set up so they could try to entice Asimov fans to the theater. It just ended up pissing them off.

    Put it to you this way, from all I've read the movie has VERY little relation to the book. For one, Susan Calvin is in her 60s in the book.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      I don't think you read my post. I'm asking about the book. I saw the movie before reading the book anyway. I actually kind of liked both of them. Now back to my questions...
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        And I don't think you read my post, I'm *****ing about the movie .
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          The movie was pretty good. I went in with my usual low expectations and was pleasently surprised. Now when I get the chance I'll probably try to read the book. That is after I get done with my first LOTRs read through
          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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          • #6
            See, DD, my post is useful...

            Sprayber, take note of my post... the book is VERY different from the movie. You will not find the plot of the movie AT ALL in the book "I, Robot" (if anything parts of it come from "Caves of Steel", but not really). However, if you want to read some interesting stories about how the 3 laws interact and can cause robots to malfunction, it's a great book. One of the kinds of sci-fi.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              The last chapter contains shades of the movie plot, Imran.

              I still fail to see the usefulness of your post to me though as it has no bearing on my quest!
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #8
                What do I care about your quest?

                Shades? Perhaps, but only very slight.

                Spoiler:
                A Zeroth Law is not introduced until later books and Asimov never imagined a horde of angry robots looking to kill. It's usually just one who malfunctions and there is no purposeful killing in the book. In the last chapter the trick was finding out which one was the 'defective'
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  Spoiler:
                  The last chapter was called Evitable Conflict and dealt with robitic superintelligences that control the world and how they deal with potential threats to thier rule. You were thinking of another chapter.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    That has even LESSER to do with the movie plot!

                    Spoiler:
                    The beauty in that story is the not knowing what would happen and the idea of helplessness of knowing something, but not being able to know the bigger thing. Perhaps the movie shows what could happen as a result of that story, but that isn't a part of "I, Robot". It'd be like making a movie about what would happen with Hari Seldon's plan if the Mule didn't come around and calling it "Foundation".

                    Besides, the movie itself was all set to go as "Hardwired" until the producers bought the name "I, Robot" and changed some of the names and played around with the 3 Laws. It was just plugged into a finished thing.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Whatever. I'm still curious about Calvin's reaction given her past actions.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        Well, if you are talking about the last chapter.

                        Spoiler:
                        It's because the Machines are acting in the good of humanity. The prior one just lied to spare feelings which meant it was no good to anyone. The Machines are still good to humankind because that is who they must first protect, so Susan has fewer qualms about them
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          I found it a little disturbing after I grew to like her character during the course of the book. Does he explore this a little more in the other Robot novels?
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Well in the other Robot books the whole Machines story thread is dropped. You won't find any other story like that in his works. I guess it was just a fun short story he wrote and perhaps he didn't think the book would be the basis for an entire literary industry.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              Spoiler:
                              It's because the Machines are acting in the good of humanity.
                              If you're refering to that, you could say there are shades of it in the Foundation series.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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