This is an ~open comments~ PBEM between 3 players:
MrWhereItsAt of the CyCon
Quango of the Morganites
HongHu of the Pirates
This is an open-information PBEM.
~The Game Rules~
All passwords are common knowledge.
All turn saves are openly available.
All diplomacy is common knowledge.
The Map is common knowledge.
Explainations and motivations for your turns are required.
Kindly include your comments in Spoilers. [spo iler] [/spo iler]
~Standard Apolyton PBEM rules~
__Reloading a save you've previously played from: Explain yourself!
__Airdrops by Right-mouse-button when the same airdrop can't be performed by hitting 'i': No Game!
__Taking military action then accepting diplomacy which cancels the vendetta in the same turn: No Game!
__Probe actions (besides infiltration) on someone without vendetta towards you: Explain yourself!
__Upgrading units with the design workshop is allowed at end of turn only.
__Communications only allowed between factions that have either met each-others' units, or 'traded' for the comm frequency.
__Social engineering choice limited to one switch per line per turn.
__Psi units cannot be assigned multiple point patrol routes
__Calling Planetary council: Notify everyone. No bribing // accepting bribes.
__No base trading with the AI. Extortion is allowed.
~Custom Rules~
All victory conditions enabled
Do or Die is ON
Bell curve is ON
Flexible start is ON
Scatter pods is OFF
Transcend Difficulty
~Custom Player rules~
Neither Engima_Nova nor anyone else plays a turn for somebody, unless
a. they've been missing for 48 hrs or
b. at the previous player's request because they've made an aggregious error on the turn before theirs or
c. they have given permission for someone to play it.
Players will show respect for each-other,
and refrain from flaming even the dumbest of turns.
~Current Game~
The game is SMAX.
The map is xplanet.mp, but with dense rainfall and medium life.
The following factions/players are already in:
MWIA - CyCon
Quango - Morgan
HongHu - Pirates
AI - Gaians
AI - Hive
AI - Cult
AI - Believers
I met MrWhereItsAt in #apolyton tonight.
He has confirmed that I will be playing his turn for him,
falling under section c. of penalty turns.
*ahem*
I forgot to include in the first post, that posting an END TURN (when the end turn thingy is flashing) is helpful to the person in front of you, who gets to see what's coming their way.
Please note that MAch was a typo. It was meant to be Mack.
/ is also a typo. It was meant to be ?.
Actually, I love IRC.
~Cybernetic Consciousness, MY 2101~
I move the scout patrol to the fungus.
Worms (and the 10ECs with them) are very useful, but can only be found by an exploring unit outside a base radius.
I had to look for the worms first.
Scout finds worms, kills them, gets 10ECs.
Colony pods go to their landing spots on the map.
The one in the south is the HQ, MWIA Prime.
It's in the south, since that's where I think MWIA will expand - towards the Monsoon Jungle.
The one in the north is Enigma Elipse. Feel free to change the name if you wish, but IMO it's a good name.
I set sliders to 30/0/70 for tech in 2. MWIA should set them back to 50/0/50 next turn.
That tech is Centauri Ecology - because formers kick ass.
I set both bases to produce Colony Pods, which will be switched to Formers ASAP.
Such ends the turn, I save the turn at END TURN, and pass it to Quango.
Thanks Enigma.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
Sounds good. I can play tonight 0100 GMT, 1800 MST, or if anyone wants to play my turn:
1. Build base on nut bonus "A4: Arthur Dent", set to produce cp
2. Move scout south
3. Move cp southwest
4. sliders 40/0/60 which would be 2/0/3 energy, I believe
I think that's all.
Quango
Comments for Morgan and Pirate turns in SPOILERS.
You don't have to read them, and if you do, don't have to follow them.
Morgan:
Spoiler:
Remember, MWs won't spawn in fungus next to a sensor or within a base radius.
Pirates:
Spoiler:
Diplomacy is the key to victory.
Quango:
50/0/50 gives the same energy allocation as 40/0/60.
The starting tech wasn't chosen.
Still play? Y/N
Enigma, would you care to share a little of your insight about Pirate long term strategy? Strength and weakness?
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
Not commenting on the other starts, but as Morgan is my favourate faction, couldn't resist a few comments.Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
Comments for Morgan and Pirate turns in SPOILERS.
You don't have to read them, and if you do, don't have to follow them.
Morgan:
Spoiler:
Remember, MWs won't spawn in fungus next to a sensor or within a base radius.
Spoiler:
Oh such good suggestions for Morgan. Pirates anybody? Please?
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
I suppose it's quite obvious, but try founding seabases ON a bonus tile with popped kelp fields around. Not necessarily a bonus nut since the kelp already helps grow pirate bases quite fast. Also, pop pod as crazy on your way to lay diplomatic contacts, preferably with a transport foil escorted by a gun foil for cover (for the odd sea AA). Having seaformers early helps with tech progress when they construct tidal harnesses on kelp farms, so researching centauri ecology is quite usefull here.
No pods in this game.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
Sorry, I forgot that. Hard to see difference w/o game in front of me. 50/0/50 is fine.Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
Quango:
50/0/50 gives the same energy allocation as 40/0/60.
The starting tech wasn't chosen.
Still play? Y/N
Thanks for the advice Chaunk. I'll think it over. I'm not really eager to do FM, as I've never done that before, and I'm not great with drones. I don't see how I could control them with -5 police or whatever and no garrison.
Quango
Not like Garrisons make a difference.
The way to survive in FM?
Doctors immediately before growth to size 2, and from then on, Cpods until the b-liimit.
Once you hit that B-limit, rush rec commons in your bases and resume pod spamming.
Spatrols aren't that useful, save for drone control - and you don't need that in FM.
Not like Garrisons make a difference.
The way to survive in FM?
Doctors immediately before growth to size 2, and from then on, Cpods until the b-liimit.
Once you hit that B-limit, rush rec commons in your bases and resume pod spamming.
Spatrols aren't that useful, save for drone control - and you don't need that in FM.
Pirates:
Spoiler:
Quango... the fields here glow!
1. moved scout east to find worm, no luck
2. built hq (A4) on nut bonus. set for cp
3. moved cp sw for A3
4. set at 30/10/60 for quickest tech
Planning...
Diamond 4 bases in flats (A's). Try to get a pattern in there.
Move to the two rivers SE & SW for a couple more diamonds (neighborhoods).
Q (starting the radioactive mutation already) out.
save before end turn
I basically set up the bases as what Enigma suggested. They seem to be pretty good to me. I thought about building a transport in the lower base and then a colony pod for settling to Mt Planet. The growth is in 12 turns or something. I need 7 turn each for colony pod and transport. I would also need at least a rover if I want to fight the believers. However I don't know if I'm ready to do a battle this early.
Also I didn't change SE allocation since it will not speed up my reseach anyway. I have not chosen a tech yet. I have another 2 turns to think about it.
The gun foil is heading out to make contact. I think it will go directly to the human players, and the other two foils that I'm building now will go to AIs.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
You need the guns first, then Mt. Planet.
Transport in the HQ and pod in the lower base - more energy that way.
Remember, Miriam won't be hostile to you straight away - so you can rush her bases away.
Hmmm my HQ is the lower base. But anyway why more energy that way?Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
Transport in the HQ and pod in the lower base - more energy that way.
Explain please.Remember, Miriam won't be hostile to you straight away - so you can rush her bases away.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
I presume you didn't read the spoiler?
Okay, I thought you did. Never mind.
/me opens your turn to see where the bases are
As for Mim not being hostile,
she won't go seething just because you land a base on her territory (so long as she doesn't notice you until after the base is down).
You can buy her off with junk like IndEcon or BioGenetics while you amass Laser Rovers.
Last edited by Enigma_Nova; June 23, 2004 at 00:48.
Okay, here's the deal:
I was wrong - yes, the Cpod should be built in the HQ.
Nice move HongHu!
I thought the HQ produced 3 energy on its base tile and the secondary base produced 2...
The idea is, when you have an odd amount of energy coming in, in 50/0/50 allocation the spare energy goes to labs.
Your secondary base is producing 4 energy now, and your HQ is producing 5.
You want to make the pod in your HQ, so you can get 5-5 as your raw energy, with 6 points to labs and 4 points to economy.
If the colony pod was (incorrectly) built in your secondary base, you'd get 6-4 as your raw energy with only 5 points to labs.
In this early stage, 1 lab beats 1 EC.
---
As for why Miriam wasn't going to V'detta you?
She may be belligerent, but she won't be seething just because you based her territory.
She might demand tech, but that is all. By the time you get your Cpod down there, you'll have SocPsy, CentEco, Biogenetics,
and probably also have Infnets and AppPhys.
I guess your initial Gun Foil is going to MWIA as fast as it can?
I suppose that was a value call, I guess it could work out.
Here's what to do with the remaining foils:
Spoiler:
Your colony pod will complete and make landfall in 2114, with a base established in 2115.
You'll have plenty of stuff to buy mim off with, while you prep the laser rovers.
You can afford to fall behind in infrastructure and tech, since you can play tech broker to get what you need,
and sell tech to the AI to recover your momentum losses.
The Comm advantage, plus your dealing with your problem AI early - you will have a shot at this game.
Is there a best research beeline for pirates?
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
Is the turn on MWIA? I just wanted to make sure it isn't me. Q
Yes, the turn is on MWIA.
I'll ask him if he still wants to play,
and give him some crap about his PBEMs dying.
Well hell, if I know a turn is at me then I play it, and usually fast too. You only have to look at any of 6 Civ3 ongoing PBEMs for that.
I figured I might, you know, get a turn in my email when it was my go. This being a PBEM and all?
Enough sarcasm. Am playing now.
Open once.
I notice that I can cut down on my science a bit, and as I am about to do so TerramX crashes.
Open again.
I start playing with the slider, and see that 50% or 60% will give me CentEmp in one turn. TerranX crashes.
Open x3.
I drop the rate to 50% (60% would do the same) to get exactly 6 Labs, enough to get CentEmp next turn.
I move the Scout W (I dunno - worm scouting?).
That's it, I guess...
Anyone know Quango's email?
Sorry MWIA. I thought we were supposed to upload it here instead of email. I will email my future turns to you.
Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski
Grapefruit Garden
i'll play this tonight...
If HongHu wants to play through my turn...
move cp sw one more square
move sp s
I think that's it.
If posting here isn't a problem, it is probably best. I don't check my email that frequently at home.
Quango
oh, and pick cent ecol if you play my turn
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