A perspective on the history and future of the Monkey Homeland

[Hot_Enamel]

Monkey History.

First contact was made with CoD. Early correspondence indicated that we had a common in peace and a healthy trading relationship was built. Some early exploration rules were agreed to: CoD would not explore south, with our guarantee that there were no other teams to be met; Monkey would not explore north, with CoD agreeing not to restrict our ability to meet other teams. Obviously, CoD was lying and their "don’t go further North" was to ensure Monkey did not reach Python.

Note that CoD & Python before Monkey and conducted early trades leaving Monkey behind in tech from the start. We believe they began to plot our demise very early. However not knowing this, Monkey was overjoyed when it was suggested by CoD that our 3 team continent join in an alliance to ensure our tech & economic growth, and have a chance of keeping up with the yet unknown 4 team continent. An avoidance of early war, tech co-ordination, map trading, would be a benefit to everyone.

But we soon realised that a full alliance was not what CoD had in mind. What Monkey thought was agreed upon, was for all of us to gift techs, and share tech research for the benefit of all. What CoD wanted to do, was to keep tabs on tech points and sell tech to Monkey in order to drain our wealth and stifle growth. A very disappointed Monkey team, with its poor starting position, and tech inferiority, had no chance catching up or making the payment demands of CoD. Our only option was to devise a unique plan to sell "Goodie huts" to CoD, for low level techs (ie give CoD the location of Monkey Goodie Huts in return for gifting us old techs.) But once our huts were exhausted, it was clear Monkey was always going to trail CoD.

In the meantime, the military buildup by Python did not go un-noticed. Nor the extraordinary faith & co-operation between the two teams, when it was noticed Python workers clearing & roading jungle for CoD. Our warnings to CoD of Pythons build up of military were responded to with light heartedness. Also of great concern to team Monkey, was the rapid southern expansion by CoD. The loss of the dye luxury to one sole team is obvious, but CoD had excellent land to their west that they were ignoring, in favour of settling in thick jungle. Monkey responded by immediately sending settlers north to establish a border and gain access to at least 1 dye luxury.

And finally, the ultimate injury handed by CoD to Monkey was to ‘stiff’ us on an agreed-to deal for the Republic technology, and the insistence of unreasonable terms for it’s “purchase”.

Concern was building within Monkey. We were being used by team CoD as stepping stones to their own goals of continental domination and tech advancement. Their original offers of co-operation now appeared to be a complete sham. The depth of this sham materialised, when a LARGE stack of Python Swordsmen moved into attack formation along the CoD/Monkey border. The CoD grand plan was complete. They successfully manipulated their northern neighbours into attacking their weak and peaceful southern neighbours, and claim the prime central land position for themselves.

What CoD told Python about our territory is unknown. However, any team that had full-territory knowledge would see that the land is not worth fighting over.
Python's vision of palace jumping to better territory is flawed in that our territory is no better than what that they already own. But typically of what happens when you have a poor start and a strong neighbour, you jump at any offer of alliance, and do so without the knowledge of the full picture.

CoD & Pythons early first contact is another obvious reason for their alliance. And how could they really trust a Monkey Team consisting of GoW & Voxian membership? CoD was able to use their diplomatic relationship to manipulate Python into believing attacking Team Monkey would be the answer to their territory problems.

With CoD screwing Team Monkey over in the republic trade, we have been left in a Despotic government and unprepared for war. Coupled with barbarian outbreaks in key areas, team Monkey had no choice but to evacuate and abandon cities, to retreat to our core. Pillaging roads has slowed the Python advance to a one tile per turn, giving Team Monkey time to prepare and build its war machine.

But in times of war, communication is often the first to fail. Errors have been made and some military operations were less than successful. The loss of Fort Siamang was a regrettable error by our field commanders not following orders, but nevertheless, one that succeeded in slowing the Python forces yet again.

Good news was received when the prayers to the Prophet of the Church of the Winged Monkey were answered, and iron was banished from the continent.

So with the knowledge of this divine intervention, the heroic but doomed diversionary force in Fort Siamang, and even a despotic Golden Age, Team Monkey has rallied again, and built a force of Mercenaries that even the armies of Python & CoD will find difficult to destroy. Each tile of territory is going to be paid for in Python & CoD blood. (But mostly Python, as CoD prefers to play the safe puppet master and not get their hands dirty)

Alas however, as history has shown, even the greatest nations of the world will fall, if they are cut off and strangled slowly to death. Team Monkey may not survive, but we will ensure that neither will the Python army.

The only winner, will be that quiet giant. The one desperately trying to pretend they didn’t manipulate this whole war. The team quietly rexing while it lets its allies die....Team CoD.


Moving Forward...

The alliance between Python & CoD should not be underestimated. But with Python's poor territory and blind acceptance as the military arm of their evil alliance, they will be too far weakened to become the dominant partner on this continent. They have been poorly informed when making the decision for war against team Monkey, superbly manipulated by CoD, and too proud to admit the mistake and change their chosen path into minority.

On the other hand, CoD’s grand plan has fallen right into place so easily. As they quietly continue their rexing and infrastructure builds. And watch their allies die at the end of mercenary spears.

Have no doubt .... CoD is the team to be wary of.

We understand that the politics and military situation on the New World (your continent) is far from stable. However, there is one thing that you can be certain of - CoD will be the "Lego" and "GWT" of PTWDGII. Do not underestimate them as the brave military warriors of Python have done. CoD has the power on this continent, and enough territory to win the game.
Do what you can to limit this power. Put away your petty differences and agree on the limiting of CoD's growth. Amphibious invasions this early in history are clearly difficult, although having the armies of CoD and Python so far from home would make a strategic strike more than feasible. Galley crossings have been discussed with some already. And we encourage all teams to review their long-term strategy of having a powerful CoD team being left unmolested on this continent

Team Monkey believes we must agree to a tech embargo now. We have seen the effects of leaving a powerhouse team kept within the tech loop. And a luxury/strategic resource embargo would certainly slow their growth capabilities.

Most importantly however, support team Monkey in her fight for survival, and make the Python and CoD conquest as slow and agonising as possible. You can each see our tech situation. Monkey does have some limited cash reserves, and we can pay cash for techs. But we will need to negotiate discount deals. Anything that can be offered would be appreciated and Team Monkey will be forever in your debt.

Beware of the giant manipulator.
Do not underestimate them.
Do not trust them.
Their men wear dresses & makeup.
Their women have GoW beards.
They breed through evil genetic engineering
They are evil.
They are CoD.
And they must be stopped.

Disclaimer

This is propaganda, and not to be taken seriously……other than the parts which are true ... which is most of it other than the dresses, beards and genetics part.....

[Hot_Enamel]

Due to popular demand ... the first poo has been flung.

[Arrian]

This is all tongue in cheek, right? Because otherwise I'll feel like I have to counter certain accusations which are not true (like, oh, damn near the entire post).

edit: ha! Need to read to the end. Silly me. Disclaimer. Gotcha. Carry on!

-Arrian

[Arrian]

I am leaving work early today due to a nasty cold, but for now I will fling this back:

Team Monkey is a bunch of grasping liers! At every opportunity, the Monkeys attempted to exploit CoD's goodwill by trying to get us to gift them technology. While Monkey's lands were clearly inferior to the lands of Python and CoD, it was equally clear that they were holding back and playing "poor me."

Furthermore, no matter what the Monkeys might think (if they think, which we're not sure about) CoD never wanted this war. We made a choice between what we felt were two unpleasant possibilities. We chose, in our eyes, the lesser of two evils. We could join with Python, or we could join with Monkey. We chose Python.

As it turned out, Monkey's "gimme, gimme, gimme" attitude toward tech trades, coupled with their attempted settlement near OUR dyes just confirmed that we had made the right decision.

Besides, we ran out of cake.

[disclaimer]What H_E said - this is clearly exaggeration. The truth, such as it is, lies somewhere between H_E's version and mine. To the extent that the other teams really want to know what happened, feel free to PM me and ask. I'll tell you openly what happened from CoD's perspective, without embellishment. I'm sure Monkey will be glad to provide their version of events in the same manner.[/disclaimer]

-Arrian, Executive Transvestite of Team Cake or Death?

[Rhothaerill]

The fun begins....

[DaveMcW]

Monty Python would not object to Team Monkey buying Engineering (and its pre-requisites) at discount prices. In fact, we would give them it ourselves if not for this invconvenient state of war between us.

Plant Giant Redwoods! Larches! Firs! Mighty Scots Pines! Lofty flowering Cherries! Plucky little Apsens! The limping Roo tree of Nigeria! The towering Wattle of Aldershot! The Maidenhead Weeping Water Plant! The naughty Leicestershire Flashing Oak! The flatulent Elm of West Ruislip! The Quercus Maximus Bamber Gascoigni! The Epigillus! The Barter Hughius Greenus!

Our lumberjacks will thank you when they arrive.

[UnOrthOdOx]

"to keep tabs on tech points and sell tech to Monkey in order to drain our wealth and stifle growth. "


Tech points are simply evil and should be avoided at all cost.

/me prepares to flee from Kloreep...

Monty Python would not object to Team Monkey buying Engineering (and its pre-requisites) at discount prices. In fact, we would give them it ourselves if not for this invconvenient state of war between us.

For a small fee I am sure that the Mercenary team would...sorry, wrong game...

[Solomwi]

Now I ask, which New World team would consider a tech partnership with a group that is just now mastering the spork?

[Arnelos]

The Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team would like to announce that while we bear nothing but love and charity toward the participants in this conflict, we have learned through our contact with the divine powers that all of the participants are doomed to rot, die, burn, and suffer in the future.

It should be noted that their only hope for salvation is for each to declare fealty to the Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team.

We believe that Team Monkey is the most likely to take up this offer by the gods to secure their salvation... that even if their jungles and forests should burn, that they themselves will be saved and delivered into the embrace of the almightly Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team, the Champions of the Desert, and the Rulers of all of that is righteous in hominid-kind.

[Hot_Enamel]

*** Hot_Enamel begins to rub his hands in glee ***

Originally posted by Arrian
I am leaving work early today due to a nasty cold, but for now I will fling this back:

Team Monkey is a bunch of grasping liers! At every opportunity, the Monkeys attempted to exploit CoD's goodwill by trying to get us to gift them technology. While Monkey's lands were clearly inferior to the lands of Python and CoD, it was equally clear that they were holding back and playing "poor me."

Furthermore, no matter what the Monkeys might think (if they think, which we're not sure about) CoD never wanted this war. We made a choice between what we felt were two unpleasant possibilities. We chose, in our eyes, the lesser of two evils. We could join with Python, or we could join with Monkey. We chose Python.

Team Monkey made no alliance offer to CoD for an attack against Python. At all times, Monkey played as if they had a safe and secure 3-way alliance and was devastated to discover our two partners had been plotting our demise for quite some time.

Originally posted by Arrian
As it turned out, Monkey's "gimme, gimme, gimme" attitude toward tech trades, coupled with their attempted settlement near OUR dyes just confirmed that we had made the right decision.

Any team/s that help Monkey regain her territory, shall receive the dye luxury as free for the length of the game.

Originally posted by Arrian
Besides, we ran out of cake.

Beta just finished baking some fresh banana cake on the very turn of your invasion. You should of asked for some.

Originally posted by Arrian
[disclaimer]What H_E said - this is clearly exaggeration. The truth, such as it is, lies somewhere between H_E's version and mine. To the extent that the other teams really want to know what happened, feel free to PM me and ask. I'll tell you openly what happened from CoD's perspective, without embellishment. I'm sure Monkey will be glad to provide their version of events in the same manner.[/disclaimer]

-Arrian, Executive Transvestite of Team Cake or Death?

Team Monkey has nothing to fear, and has no need to hide behind closed doors to explaining their actions, where nothing can be rebutted.

We are happy to answer any questions on the main board or privately.



C'mon CoD, you can do better than that.
And Python really needs to speak up.


Disclaimer :-
This is propaganda, and not to be taken seriously……other than the parts which are true ... which is most of it

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
"to keep tabs on tech points and sell tech to Monkey in order to drain our wealth and stifle growth. "


Tech points are simply evil and should be avoided at all cost.

* UnOrthOdOx prepares to flee from Kloreep...

Ahhh Uno...

I am afraid there are only a few of us that understand what the term "alliance" really means.

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by Arnelos
It should be noted that their only hope for salvation is for each to declare fealty to the Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team.

We believe that Team Monkey is the most likely to take up this offer by the gods to secure their salvation... that even if their jungles and forests should burn, that they themselves will be saved and delivered into the embrace of the almightly Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team, the Champions of the Desert, and the Rulers of all of that is righteous in hominid-kind.

Where do we sign ?
I'll just dip my spork into this jar of ink.

[Hot_Enamel]

@ everyone else who has posted.

Keep them coming.

Ask yourselves, can you afford to leave team "Cake or Python" alone, to dominate their entire continent.

We have seen it before.
We will see it again.

[Krill]

I have but one complaint:

C'mon, Monkey, this is some of the best fiction I have ever read! Copy right and sell it to a publisher, you'll have millions. You can negoitiate to have the recycled paper used, to save your precious trees.

[Jon Shafer]

Fully Monty or Death!

[Krill]

[Beta]

Originally posted by Krill
I have but one complaint:

C'mon, Monkey, this is some of the best fiction I have ever read!

Ummm... What part would be the fiction???

Us getting stiffed on the trade for Republic???

CoD and Python both attacking us???

Having our GA triggered while still in despotism???

Us being desperate???

That if we are defeated, CoD is sitting in a very strong position???

[Arrian]

We didn't stiff you on Republic. Unless you count "stiffing" you as "not giving it for free" !!

You guys tried to milk us for all we were worth. The "trades" between us were more akin to charity than deals between partners. We were willing to sell you republic at a discount and still you tried to get us to give it to you for free! Even though we had already agreed to the alliance with Python, we would have done the deal and sent you republic, had you made any real attempt at negotiation. I "played" the negotiations straight - nothing would have been different had we not been planning an invasion.

It probably would have come to war anyway. There was no way we were going to accept the location of Mandril.

As to the nature of our relationship in the beginning, I do view this war with regret. I spent considerable time and effort on CoD's diplomacy with Monkey, and really did want to have a cooperative relationship. Unfortunately, circumstances dictated another course.

Consider CoD's position. We are in the middle. We are the English (crappy traits & UU). We have no iron, whereas our northern neighbors did. Our southern neighbors have Numidian mercenaries. Our land is nice, whereas our sourthern neighbors have crap land and our northern neighbors are so close the wood chips from their lumberjacks land in our fields.

One or both of you would have attacked us sooner or later. We figured Python would sword rush us. Our core is so close to theirs it would have been relatively productive right off the bat, and with a little TLC + a FP, they would have an awesome empire. Even if Monkey wanted to help us, they were too far away to do anything before we were crushed.

So Python builds a ton of swords, indicates they want to kill somebody, and asks us to join in against Monkey.

Pop quiz, hot shot: what do you do?

Monkey's relative uselessness in the tech partnership, and the strategic issue of them not being able to help us against Python made the decision rather simple, really. Once our attempts at trying to convince Python not to attack you failed (we offered them the southwest penninsula and REX assistance if they would not go to war), the choice was clear.

-Arrian

[Beta]

Originally posted by Arrian
We didn't stiff you on Republic. Unless you count "stiffing" you as "not giving it for free" !!

To clarify. We had a deal agreed-to. Map making for republic. In addition - you had one of our southern goody huts to pop as part of another deal. You popped the hut early - you say you were sure you would get polytheism - you get map making. You say the deal is now off. We try to cut other deals for republic. They are clearly exorbitant. (I just re-read the CoD FA thread including the specifics of the republic-map making-hut deals.)

Now - we should have put two and two together. Just a couple of turns earlier - we asked:

Can you tell us what those Monty workers and Spearman are doing at your southern borders?

The response:

Building a road with those super-duper industrious workers of theirs. They're helping us with some roadbuilding, and the hooking up of silks. This will benifit them as well.

So - yes, I salute you. The plan was clearly in motion, and depriving us of republic so we could not change governments, and would be stuck with a depsotic GA was great strategy. But it does not deny the fact that you 'stiffed' us on the deal for republic.

Also - as to your overall position regarding why you attacked Monkey - understand completely. But, having done so, did you not expect us to fight for our lives militarily and diplomatically?

Cheers... Beta.

[Arnelos]

The Muhammad Al-Sahaf Team would not be opposed to the infidels all killing one another in a horrible slaughter.

We still love everyone one of you, though.

[Arrian]

I do not recall the deal EVER being just Map Making for Republic. IIRC, Map Making is significantly cheaper than Republic, so I thinkit was our intention to ask for more than just MM. Not necessarily the exact difference in beakers between the two, mind you, perhaps a splitting of the difference. I'd have to check the logs, though.

Exorbitant?! Please. Republic is a VERY expensive tech. CoD spent a ton of beakers researching it. All we wanted was for Python and Monkey to contribute to that - either via tech trade or cash.

Regarding the hut deal: yes, we thought we'd get Polytheism but got MM instead. That was an oversight - both by CoD *and* by Monkey. You guys could have caught that before it happened too, you know. Anyway, as I recall, we did take that unfortunate miscalculation into consideration when negotiating the trade of republic. We attempted to compromise, but it was clear that Monkey had no intention of actually contributing to the research cost of republic that CoD had incurred. Thus, the deal fell through.

I repeat: we would have sold you republic, despite the war plan*. We had no intention of deliberately gouging you for it, either. But there was no way in HELL we were going to give you republic for next to nothing, friend or foe.

Further, please note that CoD did not sell Literature to anyone else (I believe it was LL that didn't have it when we met them), due to the fact that Monkey researched that tech and under the conditions of our technology alliance, it is yours to sell, not ours. We could have sold it, making a small profit and denying said small profit to you, but chose against it. Not because we think YOU will care, of course.

Of course I expect you to fight for your lives, Beta. That's a given. You must also expect me to make sure that CoD's side of the story is told. I make no claim that we are saints, but neither are we demons

FYI - we did hook up silks (it is silks, right, not dyes?) so we could trade them to Python. But yes, the primary purpose of the road was for the invasion. It also has assisted our REX. It's multi-purpose, really.

-Arrian

* - Although it might seem that keeping Republic from you was the smart play, it might actually not be. I honestly considered "caving in" and giving you guys republic right before we invaded. Then we might have caught you in anarchy. Which is worse? 20 turns of despotic GA, or ~15 turns of Republic GA?

[Arrian]

And Beta, so long as we're quoting PMs, I'm going to make sure your selective use of a couple of sentences doesn't go unanswered.

The following is a PM to conmcb25 regarding the republic trade, quoted in full:

Con,

I am of two minds about this issue. On the one hand, I was caught by surprise at getting MM from the hut, and I understand your team's frustration about it. On the other, Republic is an extremely expensive tech, which CoD worked very hard to research. Even if we had not gotten MM from the hut, some sort of compensation was contemplated for a MM - Republic trade.

Map Making is a cost 12 tech, or 288 beakers. Republic is cost 28, or 672 beakers. So when you talk about expending a ton of research on something, we know all too well what you mean. CoD has been fine with structuring trades that weren't necessarily exactly even between us, in the interest of advancing both teams. However, even a deal of Map Making for Republic straight up would have been a major concession on our part (there is a difference of 384 beakers there!). I thought that we had discussed some sort of compensation for the difference (though admittedly we never actually specified what it would be). Now, due to the hut, we already have Map Making. As I said before, we will not trade that on to Python, so you still have that avenue open for trade. Given the SNAFU with the hut, CoD is willing to consider subtracting the value of MM from the value of Republic as if we had gotten MM from you instead of the hut. But that still leaves the difference of 384 beakers between the two techs to talk about.

We are willing to negotiate to find a middle ground here if you guys are too.

-Arrian

* - which you traded us for Mysticism. The outcome of the hut was unexpected, yes, and I think we're willing to take that into account when negotiating on this issue, but if we wanted to dig our heels in, the hut and its outcome have already been paid for. I forgot about MM as a possibility from the hut, but that's something you guys could have caught too.

[Arrian]

Looking back on it, the cash amount I eventually came up with for republic was in fact too high (400gold). Miscalculation on my part. It should have been 216 gold, actually. Basically, I forgot to cut the final number in half... for some reason I was convinced I had it right back then, but looking at it now there should have been one more reduction in the number.

Something tells me that Monkey would have found 216 gold "exorbitant" too, though. CoD was CLEARLY trying to work out a fair solution to the issue, and your only response was "Gimme! We'll, um, pay you back later." [/exaggeration]

-Arrian

[Beta]

Originally posted by Arrian
IBut yes, the primary purpose of the road was for the invasion. It also has assisted our REX. It's multi-purpose, really.

* - Although it might seem that keeping Republic from you was the smart play, it might actually not be. I honestly considered "caving in" and giving you guys republic right before we invaded. Then we might have caught you in anarchy. Which is worse? 20 turns of despotic GA, or ~15 turns of Republic GA?

Yes - we were wondering the same thing. Once we had finished the republic research ourselves - which we have - we contemplated the switch. But by then it was clearly to late. It would have been interesting had you caught us 1 turn into anarchy.

[Beta]

Originally posted by Arrian
Looking back on it, the cash amount I eventually came up with for republic was in fact too high (400gold). Miscalculation on my part. It should have been 216 gold, actually. Basically, I forgot to cut the final number in half... for some reason I was convinced I had it right back then, but looking at it now there should have been one more reduction in the number.

Something tells me that Monkey would have found 216 gold "exorbitant" too, though. CoD was CLEARLY trying to work out a fair solution to the issue, and your only response was "Gimme! We'll, um, pay you back later." [/exaggeration]

-Arrian

hehe

Actually - at 200 we may have reached a deal. The 400 was definitely a slap in the face - and as con said in our forum - "it may as well be a million."

We were clearly negotiating from a position of economic weakness. Both teams knew that. I guess we had faith (maybe call it more hope than faith ) in the tech 'alliance' and the notion that the three civs would work towards gaining an advantage on the other continent.

It just seemed to us that when an agreement is reached on a map making for republic deal, and the other team comes up with map making from some other source, that the deal should be honoured. That being said, I can see how it looked from your perspective as well.

And regardless - it would appear that the invasion plans were already in the works by this time, as the road building was chronologically before the trade meltdown. So the issues would have been moot anyway.

[Arrian]

That was one plan. The problem, of course, is that had you done the same things you've done militarily (burn the outposts and pull back), you probably would've been out of anarchy before we even had a shot at one of your Mercs. So that had the potential of backfiring.

Therefore, we decided we would sell you republic, but only if we got a fair chunk of change in return. First, because we weren't about to cut you as much slack on the deal as we had with the other deals, since you were about to become a mortal enemy. Second, because risking giving you a republican GA might have been worth it if we'd gotten a couple of hundred gold for it. At least until the iron depleted (upgrade money)! After that, well, it's probably best for us that it didn't work out.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

It just seemed to us that when an agreement is reached on a map making for republic deal, and the other team comes up with map making from some other source, that the deal should be honoured. That being said, I can see how it looked from your perspective as well.

Like I said, I do not recall the deal ever being MM for republic straight up... that's beyond just a "sweetheart deal" that's practically theft. Further, we offered to eat at least half the cost of MM, and probably would have conceded more if there had been more discussion.

I am vaguely annoyed now about the 400 gold thing. It made sense at the time. I think I see how I went wrong. When we were doing deals with an economic equal (Python), we generally traded techs such that the editor value evened out. I think we got Polytheism (20) plus something else for Republic (28) from them. This got me used to getting equal value in return.

However, when getting a cash contribution, it's not about matching the value of the tech. It's about contributing to the research. There are two ways I could/should have done it: 1) take the cost of republic research and divide by 3 (224 gold). Or 2) take the more complicated deal I was working on (28 minus 6 for half of MM, defer 4 points to later = 18 points = 432 beakers, and divide it in half to equal 216 gold). Either way, the figure should have been around 200 gold.

That really irritates me. Sorry about that.

...

Yes, the war prep had begun long before all this. Despite that, I did my best to continue our tech trading partnership as normal until the war actually started.

-Arrian

[Jon Shafer]

All that's left to do now is lay the Numidian Smackdown (tm)!

So... what's actually happeneing...

[Arrian]

It's been bloody. Pythonian swords, spears and cats versus Monkey Numidians & cats. Monkey's frontline fort town (Fort Siamang) fell to Pythonian assault, and there has been some pretty ferocious combat in that area since.

You already heard about CoD's attempted pillaging expedition in your Strategy forum thread, so I'll not recap that here. Horsemen obviously they don't do that well against Numidians (unless you're Lucky ), so CoD's forces have not engaged Monkey in a large scale battle yet.

CoD's navy has thus far performed admirably, sinking one Monkey galley and fending off barbarians as well.

Missing being THE EYE, Trip?

-Arrian

[Beta]

Originally posted by Trip
So... what's actually happeneing...

Well - we would like to tell you - but to be honest - the bodies of Python swordmen are piled up so high around us we can't see out. We think we see CoD horsemen, and when we kill them too we will let you know.