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    At least Bongo had the bottle to announce his war declaration
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    ahhh Bongo

    Yes The Grand Konig Bongo

    One wonders where Prussia the Innocent stands in this grand mess

    So Lord Bongo, do you stand with the Just, or do you just stand?

    Do you allie yourself with these border breakers?

    Or do you denounce their actions and charge into battle like the Grand General Blucher?

    What say you Konig Bongo?
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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    Calling Lord Gunner to the open table - you are listed on line old chap

    maybe you can explain to the people of Europe your actions - You Great Man of PEACE
    You are listed as on line Lord Gunner

    Surely you have a comment
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    Gentlemen, Spain was not supposed to get wrapped up in the current "urban renewal project." However, since Spain had an active MPP inplace with Russia...the invitable happened and Spain was also sucked into the activity.

    Concerning the Austrian/Ottoman actions on the Russian front....let's just say that some borders are being redrawn and let's leave it at that, shall we?
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    Originally posted by Wittlich
    Gentlemen, Spain was not supposed to get wrapped up in the current "urban renewal project." However, since Spain had an active MPP inplace with Russia...the invitable happened and Spain was also sucked into the activity.

    Concerning the Austrian/Ottoman actions on the Russian front....let's just say that some borders are being redrawn and let's leave it at that, shall we?
    ReDrawn you say

    and are they being Redrawn with Russias approval we ask ???
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    Austria has not attacked Spain, even though Spanish forces currently located within Austiran borders would have been easy prey, and despite the old MPP treaty that forced Spain into a state of war. The Austrian empire does not hold Spain accountable for an old treaty.

    The Spanish are free to choose their next step without an encumbrances from previous diplomatic arrangements. Austria does not seek conflict with Spain.

    As to the current conflict, The Austrian Empire detected high levels of Russian troops on its border, an obvious prelude to an attack. The Austrian Empire will not stand for such threats.

    King Paddy, you would not have been up to any scheming of your own, now would you?

    1. Past military cooperation between Russia and England against Prussia.
    2. English troops reposition on the northwest and south of Austria -- even as bold as to move these offensive forces through Austria proper.
    3. Spanish reports of English troops passing through Spain on the way to the Austrian border.
    4. Large offensive Russian forces positioned on the Austrian-Russian border.

    When Austria raised these concerns, Britain grudgingly acquienced to the simple Austrian request to remove British troops from Austria. These are the facts.
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    Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
    Austria has not attacked Spain, even though Spanish forces currently located within Austiran borders would have been easy prey, and despite the old MPP treaty that forced Spain into a state of war. The Austrian empire does not hold Spain accountable for an old treaty.

    The Spanish are free to choose their next step without an encumbrances from previous diplomatic arrangements. Austria does not seek conflict with Spain.

    As to the current conflict, The Austrian Empire detected high levels of Russian troops on its border, an obvious prelude to an attack. The Austrian Empire will not stand for such threats.

    King Paddy, you would not have been up to any scheming of your own, now would you?

    1. Past military cooperation between Russia and England against Prussia.
    2. English troops reposition on the northwest and south of Austria -- even as bold as to move these offensive forces through Austria proper.
    3. Spanish reports of English troops passing through Spain on the way to the Austrian border.
    4. Large offensive Russian forces positioned on the Austrian-Russian border.

    When Austria raised these concerns, Britain grudgingly acquienced to the simple Austrian request to remove British troops from Austria. These are the facts.
    I call you a weasel Lord of War

    1. Russia came to my aid when Prussia attacked and slaughtered my men.
    You hid behind your motherinlaw, then cried loudly when the fighting finished.

    2. My lads have been returning to their garrisons. From guarding your borders for you, you twit.

    3. Now you are the guardian of all things Spainish are you? Please show me where these troops were heading for your ground.

    4. I have no knowledge of this, but I hope they scared you.

    Oh you raised concerns, just like raising walls to throw your trash and fruit from... Ha, I was leaving your territory as you well knew.
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    Austria knew full well the reason for the presence of my troops, they were making sure that all other troops had left Prussia, to see the peace treaty settled properly.

    You dare to threaten Spain publicly
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    Lord Gunnar you speak fluidly of other nations troop movements and such, yet it is your nation that makes declarations of war ???????

    I see there is only one possible reason for this, youve gone stark raving mad!!!

    Beware all those of you who would side with this demon, he will turn on you when his current plans have been achieved!!!
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    Iron Jackson of the Russias we have an MPP!!! we wonder why you have not notified us of these happenings ???

    We await your despatches to our diplomats urgently!!!
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    Say what you well, gentleman.

    King ChrisiusMaximus: When I say "I did not attack Spain's troops in my territory - DESPITE a MPP required state of war", I was showing restraint. That is hardly a threat, Sir ChrisiusMaximus. As far as I'm concerned, you control the next step. Let's see if you make your next decision in your best interest, or England's best interest.

    And Sir Paddy, you claim innocence...interesting. Despite the heightened tensions, I have yet to restort to calling anyone a "twit".
    Haven't been here for ages....

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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot


    You are listed as on line Lord Gunner

    Surely you have a comment
    * the Austrian diplomats scratch their heads wondering what an "on line" is....we only have paper and quill pens after all...
    Haven't been here for ages....

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    Lord Gunnar your posts are simply veiled threats, yes you are a clever master of the diplomacy despite your obvious insanity.
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    Does your treachery know no bounds Lord Gunnar ?

    You say you have not yet resorted to calling anyone a twit!!

    But you have resorted to secretly plotting war havent you ?

    But you have resorted to declaring a war havent you ?

    And I suppose we should have King Paddy flogged for calling you a twit eh ?

    You Sir are untrustworthy, and I shall never stand with your nation untill your people come to their senses and remove you from office!!!

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    I see the Dogs of War have nothing further to say for themselves at this juncture !

    Mind you what can they say really ?

    That they both attacked a former ally for no real reason save that Russia was moving its forces around its own lands !!

    I suppose in their deranged minds this constitutes a good reason to invade a friends territory, pity this world as long as there are evil warmongers in control of its nations !!
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    Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
    Say what you well, gentleman.

    King ChrisiusMaximus: When I say "I did not attack Spain's troops in my territory - DESPITE a MPP required state of war", I was showing restraint. That is hardly a threat, Sir ChrisiusMaximus. As far as I'm concerned, you control the next step. Let's see if you make your next decision in your best interest, or England's best interest.

    And Sir Paddy, you claim innocence...interesting. Despite the heightened tensions, I have yet to restort to calling anyone a "twit".
    innocence, at least I have not started wars

    called you a twit, I did

    so what is going on, you never really respond, you do like to dance around every correspondence
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    Originally posted by Shogun Gunner


    * the Austrian diplomats scratch their heads wondering what an "on line" is....we only have paper and quill pens after all...
    One wonders how you ever play your games then
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    War is again sweeping over the continent. This time however, Preussia is not involved. Nor do we wish to be.


    You will note that the former Preussian city of Leipzig is once again under Preussian control after being gifted to Austria during the previous war.

    We thank the Austrian nation and their leader for protecting the city for us. We may add that we probably hoped for an earlier return than this, but we still rejoice at meeting our countrymen again.

    I can understand if some of the warring parties think the timing is suspiscious. While I like to think that the return of the city happened thanks to my quiet diplomacy, I cannot help to wonder if it was done to shorten an eventual frontline.


    Furthermore, I would ask the warring parties to respect Preussias neutrality. Currently, all nations but the Ottoman has troops either inside or very close to Preussian territory.

    Rey Chrisius, as long as our two nations are at peace, your troops will not be fired upon or forced to leave by any other means. As your troops are present to supervise the cease-fire of the previous war, I got no problem with them being there, as long as their numbers are not increased of course

    Vice Tsar Iron Jackson, I don't think your troops has valid reasons for using Preussian soil. As they are few in numbers they don't represent a threat to the Preussian nation, only a annoyance. Besides, aren't those troops needed elsewhere at the moment? Your troops will not be fired upon when leaving.

    King Paddy, I hope those 30+ household cavalry west of leipzig, just outside my borders, were sent there under the assumption that Leipzig were still Austrian territory. Leipzig is no longer Austrian so those troops will no longer be needed in that area. I hope you understand that a force that size will rise grave concerns if they step inside Preussian Territory.

    Shogun Gunner, those troops just inside my borders. I assume this is the former garrison of Leipzig? They are leaving, aren't they?



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    Originally posted by bongo
    War is again sweeping over the continent. This time however, Preussia is not involved. Nor do we wish to be.


    You will note that the former Preussian city of Leipzig is once again under Preussian control after being gifted to Austria during the previous war.

    We thank the Austrian nation and their leader for protecting the city for us. We may add that we probably hoped for an earlier return than this, but we still rejoice at meeting our countrymen again.

    I can understand if some of the warring parties think the timing is suspiscious. While I like to think that the return of the city happened thanks to my quiet diplomacy, I cannot help to wonder if it was done to shorten an eventual frontline.


    Furthermore, I would ask the warring parties to respect Preussias neutrality. Currently, all nations but the Ottoman has troops either inside or very close to Preussian territory.

    Rey Chrisius, as long as our two nations are at peace, your troops will not be fired upon or forced to leave by any other means. As your troops are present to supervise the cease-fire of the previous war, I got no problem with them being there, as long as their numbers are not increased of course

    Vice Tsar Iron Jackson, I don't think your troops has valid reasons for using Preussian soil. As they are few in numbers they don't represent a threat to the Preussian nation, only a annoyance. Besides, aren't those troops needed elsewhere at the moment? Your troops will not be fired upon when leaving.

    King Paddy, I hope those 30+ household cavalry west of leipzig, just outside my borders, were sent there under the assumption that Leipzig were still Austrian territory. Leipzig is no longer Austrian so those troops will no longer be needed in that area. I hope you understand that a force that size will rise grave concerns if they step inside Preussian Territory.

    Shogun Gunner, those troops just inside my borders. I assume this is the former garrison of Leipzig? They are leaving, aren't they?



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    Yes the Leipzig transaction does look suspicious...

    As to my Household Cavalry, they are just one of my Border Patrols... with the new borders (thanks to Liepzig) are the now in your terrirtory? If so they will move on soon enough.

    As to your remaining neutral, how can we trust you, how can England trust you. You are the one who slaughtered my lads when you were an allie...

    So as Neutral, we would expect then:

    - to see all of your troops remain in their barracks.

    - you to understand that if your troops are found outside your lands, (without an agreement from the Just) then you are declaring war.
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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    As to my Household Cavalry, they are just one of my Border Patrols... with the new borders (thanks to Liepzig) are the now in your terrirtory? If so they will move on soon enough.
    If that's a patrol, then I can't wait to see your army. And no, they are not inside my borders. Just wanted you to know I'd want it to continue that way.

    - to see all of your troops remain in their barracks.
    That is completely unacceptable. We move where we want on our own soil!

    That said, I do not intend to move large 'patrols' close to my neighbours borders. Such actions will only cause unwanted suspiscion and increase tensions.

    - you to understand that if your troops are found outside your lands, (without an agreement from the Just) then you are declaring war.
    I have no intentions of entering foreign land with my troops. Can you say the same?



    Preussia is now officially in a state of Armed Neutrality. We will not engage in hostilities but we will defend ourselves.
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    Originally posted by bongo

    If that's a patrol, then I can't wait to see your army. And no, they are not inside my borders. Just wanted you to know I'd want it to continue that way.


    That is completely unacceptable. We move where we want on our own soil!

    That said, I do not intend to move large 'patrols' close to my neighbours borders. Such actions will only cause unwanted suspiscion and increase tensions.


    I have no intentions of entering foreign land with my troops. Can you say the same?



    Preussia is now officially in a state of Armed Neutrality. We will not engage in hostilities but we will defend ourselves.
    you are ever the diplomat

    We look to the future and hope your Nuetrality is true.

    As I write this, my lads have no intention of crossing borders, as we are not at war

    Then who knows what the actions of the mad Empewror of Austria will bring

    Unto the grand peace we march, all be it if we have to leave their cities in ruins to get there
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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot

    Unto the grand peace we march, all be it if we have to leave their cities in ruins to get there
    Again, with the British eagerness of killing civilians and razing cities - an obvious threat against Austrian civilians and cities

    For peace between our nations, you better kept a tight leash on those civilian-killing Household Cavalry.
    Haven't been here for ages....

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    Originally posted by Shogun Gunner

    Again, with the British eagerness of killing civilians and razing cities - an obvious threat against Austrian civilians and cities

    For peace between our nations, you better kept a tight leash on those civilian-killing Household Cavalry.
    you are a tad touchy there oh great Peace breaker...

    threatening me are you...

    well lets see your great hussars come out and back up your words...

    You protect those that war on my nation, and now you war on my allies...

    I think we are on a head on collison - one you are leading

    Think you have the numbers to take on all of Europe?

    Oh I forget, you have an Allie in the Sultan Wittlich...

    I see you both are at war with Russia and Spain...

    Interesting how you like to deflect...

    And pay off Prussia with returning Leipzig at this time -

    You call me eager, I call you a war monger
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    The turn has been forwarded on to the Sultan.


    Austria and your lacky the Ottoman empire, we are disgusted by your warmongering ways, dont bother to exchange comments with us we have no interest in anything either of you could have to say.

    Sultan Wittlich we know the size and make up of your garrison in Marseille!! If any of your troops set foot out of that city in the direction of Spain we will unleash the full fury of our armed forces upon your garrison!!!

    You have been warned STAY OUT OF SPAIN!!

    Gunnar of Austria, as you are already aware, we have a stranded cavalry unit in your territory. This unit was originally going down to Italy to investigate your earlier claims that Britain was intruding in your realm. This unit has no way of escaping your lands and as a result orders were sent for them to get into a defendable position. We fully expect not to see or hear from these boys again if you attack them but be warned they will take some of your cowardly forces with them.

    If you do attack these troops we will fight your nation down untill we drag your wretched form from your last stronghold and hang you for treason against the coalition.

    Prussia we feel you have been well rewarded for your agreement to stay neutral in these dangerous times, though we understand your position we are sickened by your willingness to take payment from the devil.

    I will not bother going into details but Spain was also offered rewards for sitting back and watching these devils wreak havoc accross Europe. Bongo where oh where is your sense of honour, you may be weakened by your last debacle but why sell your soul ? I fail to see jhow your nation can ever take pride in themselves again.

    Russia as you know we are dragged into this war that these two rogue nations have started with your people, though we have at present not determined what course of action we shall take and will for now wait in the hope that sense will prevail, bringing about a quick resolution to these events. We remain your staunch Ally and hereby promise you and your people that if these wretched dogs do not remove their forces from your lands during this next season then we will honour our alliance with your people!!!

    Lord Gunnar and especially Sultan Wittlich, I made it very clear to you I would have no part of your treachery, you both leave me no choice but to state the following.

    You must both remove all forces from Russia imediately, if this is achieved then Spain will willingly act once more as broker of peace, however if you fail to do this we will be very much in a state of war with both of your nations!!

    Do not be stupid enough to think you will be able to walk over Spain, Spain is strong enough to stand up to both opf you, and Spain knows full well who her true allies are and fight to the death any one who threatens her and her friends!!!
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    Bla, bla bla ...

    However, I will state again what I've stated in the past: The Ottoman Empire has no use for Spanish territories.

    Mar 1805AD Turn sent to the Great Shogun Gunner of the Austrian Empire.

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    Bla bla bla, yes that will sound most amusing when you attempt to say the very same as we stretch your neck
    A proud member of the "Apolyton Story Writers Guild".There are many great stories at the Civ 3 stories forum, do yourself a favour and visit the forum. Lose yourself in one of many epic tales and be inspired to write yourself, as I was.

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    Originally posted by Wittlich
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    well said
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    Thanks Sultan Wittlich, who reigns supreme! Your Eminence is without peer!

    Save to King Razer Paddy, violator of future UN resolutions. May 1805 AD

    P.S. Ahhh, King Chrisius, as my personal courier droned on and on, reading the your latest communique... It occurred to me that you stated: "don't bother to exchange comments with us" but yet you force us to listen to your long winded diatribes filled with rheotric and rhetorical statements. Thanks for the opportunity to take a nap. An important man, as myself, rarely gets the opportunity to fully relax and get away from leading the Austrian Empire.

    Oh, did you require an answer to any of your statements? Your courier stands here as if he's waiting for a reply...
    Haven't been here for ages....

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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot



    well said
    Agreed!
    Haven't been here for ages....

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    Thanks Sultan Wittlich, who reigns supreme! Your Eminence is without peer!

    Save to King Razer Paddy, violator of future UN resolutions. May 1805 AD
    Wow so you have the 2nd sight do you

    that is good, you had best be packing up your treasures now...
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