DARKCLOUD: Faces of Apolyton #11, 09/Aug/2002
DarkCloud: And now, a non list-related question: What are your views on the
existance of Internet forums?
DarkCloud: Well, I think
that Internet forums provide a good outlet for the world community to stop,
discuss and debate. However, all too frequently thickheaded people like
Civnation and some of the Newsmaxians misuse and twist facts and data and try to
mislead people.
The main problem with this sort of people is that they don't even listen to
someone who has a good point, or has defeated their argument, they just keep on
proclaiming the same drivel time and time again.
The only excuse for their ignoring of the facts is that many internet sources
are suspect, however, there is a point at which the data becomes overwhelming
and must be believed. Someone can only argue for so long that white is black
until proven wrong.
On another note, I see internet forums as microcosms of the world. In real life
you are going to meet people like those on internet forums and see all the same
arguments about the same things. Forums prepare you to meet real life.
In addition, Internet forums are much like the coffeshops of the mid 20th
century, universities of the industrial age, and the ancient forums of Rome.
They are places where learning and new ideas mya be fully traded and developed.
Forums train people and help them develop ideas which may later be sold in books
or submitted to government representatives.
Finally, forums help unite people around the world and destroy racial
misconceptions and other preconceptions. They help create a truly global
community.
Ron Jeremy: Would you
agree that what the internet most needs is a 5-year moratorium on all names
starting with "Dark"? There's millions of you buggers!
DarkCloud: Yes,
certainly. The internet most definitely needs a moratorium, us 'Dark ____'s' are
overflowing. We are bursting the internet at the seams.
There can only be so many Dark's before the name loses its intimidating
properties and merely becomes plain vanilla like Merlin, Merlyn, and Darth____,
which, despite how good they may look, are all boring and done to death (ex: Hi-
I'm Darth Steve!), with the exception of a few (DarthVeda being one of the
inventive ones ;))
I have to apologize for promulgating this phenomenon of 'Dark'ness- my first
Internet username was DarkCloud on various Bulletin Boards, followed by Dark
Ta'ang on Total Annihilation, and
Dark To'uk in some strange RPG Game. I, and many others seem to have a strange
primordial instinctive 'need' to use Dark in their names.
I suppose I am addicted to "Dark", but I have been trying to break the mold for
a while, as my numerous DL's on FreeFireZone will show ;)... I could list them
here: (I <i><b>LOVE</i></b> lists- don't you? ;)-
Lessee, this is only 3/4ths (the other 1/4th is specially witheld since no one
knows I own them ;))
¥, £, Emperor ZARDOZ, Saint of the Day, ProvostQ, Top 20 Poster, The Walrus,
Anarcho-Provost, Killer Universe, The Evil Not-Z, (Santor, the Destroyer),
(Unix, the Programmer), Insidious Wasp, Glow Worm, 2002, Wandering Bararian,
Lord_Provost, Provost C, KnightoftheOrderofthePinkTacos, Ser Moon Moth [A name I
took from a Sci-Fi short story), Stefu II, Dark Cluod, Civ Lancer, Alexanders
Horse, Symbol, Guru
and quite a few others...
However, I'm still attached to my original name, and, to preserve it's
integrity, I support a moratorium on Dark ___'s... [This is presupposing that
I'd get to keep my name if I was for a moratorium, would I not? ;)]
Solver: Need to have
some of this... How did you get started with civ?
DarkCloud: I first
observed Civilization I in the summer of 1995 while staying at a friends home. I
watched them play the game and was intrigued by the whole idea of civilizations
fighting. Then, when I returned home some days later, I immediately purchased
the game.
Civ I was my most played game back in the early days, even more so than the
shareware games, Morraff's Word (A D&D clone), Empire (Risk on the Computer),
and Commander Keen (by Apogee! ;)), and other freeware/shareware games.
In my first few games I immediately learned to never trust the Mongols and the
Zulu. The Zulu defeated me more than once in the first few years of my
civilization. Although, I did enjoy the Zulu when I played as them with cities
such as Ulundi, etc. when I frequently conquered the game as them. But,
strangely enough I've never played as them in Civ II.
Note: I still play Civ I in MSDOS ;) occasionally and can get through the
copyprotection now without the civlopedia book.
Solver: Civ2... tell
us about your thoughts about the game, and give a short outline of your
experiences.
DarkCloud: Well, I
received Civ II as a gift, well two gifts actually, in 1996. I traded one of my
copies for Command and Conquer or something of that nature, I can't remember
exactly.
Civ II, I felt was far superior to Civ I, but I was a bit annoyed that it didn't
have an endgame replay button to show your conquests over time.
However, I enjoyed Civ II, the graphics were much better than Civ I, and the
cheat menu was interesting. However, I never played at any level above Chieftan.
I did quite good in those days, reaching alpha centauri or annihilating
everyone, although I had some trouble in the WWII scenarios... Every time I
played as Germany, the allies immediately made peace with me and Russia
backstabbed me... And when I played as Russia, Germany and the Allies declared
war on me.
Then, when I was the allies, Russia declared war on me once. Oh well ;) I must
have played hundreds of games. Then, when I discovered Fundamentalism's allure,
I made a beeline for the tech. I think I had a perfect system worked out, I
could always reach the armor tech when my enemies still had cavalry... I think
some of this was owing to the fact that due to bugs, I was sometimes able to
research Writing without Alphabet, and other such strange things.
Also with Civ II, I began my deep hatred and mistrust for the Russian civ and
the Sioux civ (in the game) and added them to my blacklist of nations I never
make peace with. For some reason those nations (and the Indians [who also
inhabit my blacklist]) always backstab me regardless of what I do in the game.
That may have something to do with the fact that I never give tribute, but oh
well, I refuse to give tribute. I also refuse to give up any land in a war and
will always fight to the death.
Thus, when I play, I never negotiate with them. I play all my games to the
death. And strangely enough, my game also possesses a bug that, if I refuse to
meet with enough leaders at the beginning of the game, even if I only declare
war on 2, and even if my reputation is Spotless, no one will speak with me, and
I am forced to do total war.
In the summer of 1997/8 I found a neat little CD called the Toolkit for
Civilization II, published in Oct 1996, with scenarios by the master, Mike
McCart and advice on civilization II, I played the games, and realized that I
could mess around with the scenarios, etc, but was afraid to do so.
It was also around 1998 when I found Dan's Ultimate Civ II Site and downloaded
the Star Wars Civ game (which I have since been unable to find... and which I
accidentally deleted :() by Mike McCart... The StarWars game was over 20MB (with
sound) and completely redesigned civ... IT was one of the earliest Mods, I
believe.
Let's see, around 1999 I started desigining scenarios after I purchased Civ II:
Fantastic Worlds which came with a scenario editor. Then I took hundreds of
units off of civ-sites. I have nearly 1000 on my hard drive, possibly more. I'm
still cataloguing them.
I created several scenarios including a historical reenactment of the American's
Civil War and a Lord of the Flies Scenario, whose units I edited from others...
I think the LoF scenario is quite good as is the Civil War one... I also
designed a few more.
I was hard at work on an Atlantis scenario when I realized that Civ II:FW was
acting up on me, for some reason it randomly corrupted files... This doubled my
work time and caused me to trash the whole concept of scenarios... Although I
will, time to time, create a scenario with grasslands +20 food to see how many
and how large cities I can build.
Around 1999 I made my first attempt at Deity level and, with a foolproof
strategy was on the road to winning. I still have the game, but got bored after
a few hundred turns, however, I had already conquered 2 civilizations, despite
the fact that I was on an island 20x20, surrounded by 7 civs.
Nowadays, I usually play at Prince level because I am disgusted with computer
cheating and dislike the fact that at the higher difficulty levels the computer
forces extra malcontent citizens to appear.
Thus, while I can play Deity, I hardly ever do.
All in all, Civ II has followed me to about four computers, and Civ I has been
on two others.
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