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[Akula] Does activision plan to make any scenarios themselves [Atahualpa] yeah allod [Squid] Does Activision's agreement with Hapsbro prohibit them from making CTP2? [Floyd] Owlboy, I have one main suggestion on CTP: Give the diplomacy system some improvement, maybe along the lines of the MOO2 diplomacy system [SG_St-Leo] No [Floyd] I'm on Civnation a lot [SMACer] No Squidy, they just can't use Civ in the title [SMACer] Which means, it won't sell.... [SG_St-Leo] It forbids them to make [B]C[/B]: CtP [Squid] Test [SG_St-Leo] CtP 2 is legal *** Squid has quit IRC (Squid) [Owlboy] Yeah, we're discussing a diplomacy system for "future versions of CTP" that's a ground-up rewrite. *** Squid (~java_user@cx17383-a.orng1.occa.home.com) has joined #apolyton [SMACer] brb [BlueWaldo] SMAC doesn't have civ in the title [Allod] blb [Owlboy] SMAC did diplomacy beautifully. We want that level of sophistication. [Floyd] Yeah, I know a little about programming, and from what I understand AI programming for that kind of thing is tough [BDRAGON] SMAC relied too much on Social engineering for diplomacy though... [Atahualpa] I already sent 6 pages of ideas to civilization@activision.com [BlueWaldo] as i have always said civ games need borders that u can drag around the map in dipolmacy [Atahualpa] wordpages [Atahualpa] ! [Floyd] Well, bd, that is why you randomize the scoial engineering in the rules [Floyd] before you start SMAC [Owlboy] akula: Yes, we're going to do a few scenarios. Our designer, Winnie, has a scenario with heavy SLIC code that plays like a Zelda game. [Owlboy] It's a single-turn RPG. You never cycle turns, but you explore map and solve quests. [Floyd] That sounds pretty cool [Allod] Civ goes Zelda?!? [Reismark] is there a problem here? [Owlboy] She's done some amazing things with SLIC. We've only scratched the surface of the capabilities. [Floyd] Kinda like a scenario we have for Civ2 based on the Sword of Shannara [Owlboy] Yeah, except that it's not Civ, it's an RPG. You never cycle turns. :-) [Owlboy] (It was done just to show how powerful SLIC can be) [BDRAGON] Floyd: But wouldn't that cause weird crap like the Morganites wanting fundamentilism? [Floyd] Well, yes, but still it randomizes the game and increases playability [Floyd] If you go through every game with the Morganites and Scientists allying, it gets old quick [Allod] Nah. Yang the treehugger? [Owlboy] We want to do a large scenario component for the next CTP game. [Owlboy] Tell me, guys, do you like fixed personalities for each nationality, or do you prefer random personalities? [Floyd] Would it be possible to create something so that the players can make scenarios? [Akula] whats the greatest weakness/mistake in ctp in yeer eyes [Allod] Random! [Floyd] Personally, I prefer random [Atahualpa] fixed [Owlboy] That is, is figuring out your opponent's personality more fun, or do you prefer to know ahead of time? [Stebu] not random, for chrissakes [Floyd] I like figuring it out [Allod] Me too. [Stebu] make a random option [Atahualpa] I like it more when I see the russians and know that I have to defend myself [Owlboy] I personally like random, where you have to figure it out. [Floyd] It's boring to have the same civs be warmongers every game *** Allod has quit IRC (Allod) [Floyd] Then you know, hey, I have to kill the Mongols early *** reismark has quit IRC (reismark) [Floyd] But I don't like that as much [Owlboy] Does that lack of randomness hurt SMAC's replay value? [Stebu] NO [Squid] No. [BDRAGON] You can also hack into SMAC and make it so factions don't care about other faction's SE [BDRAGON] No [Floyd] Well, you can randomize the personalities at the beginning, so I'd have to say no [Owlboy] Sounds like it might be an interesting option, then. The option to play "historical personalities" or something. [Akula] you can have random personalities in smac [Atahualpa] why not optional? [BDRAGON] You can also edit personalities [Owlboy] Yeah, but I'm thinking in terms of non-edit related stuff. [Floyd] Owlboy, I'll just say this - no matter how much you work on a game, people will find a way to edit it [Owlboy] Making the game editable is great, but I'm also concerned about what they get right outta the box. [Floyd] So, if someone likes random personalities, they'll get them one way or another [Owlboy] It's true, Floyd. [Owlboy] Which is why we tried to leave the back door wide open on CTP. [Owlboy] If there's going to be a CTP2, what would you guys want to see in it? [Akula] better scenario system [Floyd] Improved Diplomacy system, ability to create scenarios [BDRAGON] You should just make everything editable with text files like in SMAC [Akula] better diplomacy [Akula] borders! [Atahualpa] embassy system like trade system [BlueWaldo] dito akula [Atahualpa] better ai [Squid] Better technical stuff, so that it doesn't crash. [Atahualpa] maybe an AI that learns! [Akula] with the advancements in slic, is there any way to add borders or improve diplomacy [Owlboy] BDRAGON, you CAN edit it with CTP. Everything can be edited. *** reismark (~java_user@NYCMB507-24.splitrock.net) has joined #apolyton [Floyd] hi again reismark [Owlboy] akula, yes, but with a fair amount of work. *** Azmel (~java_user@atvi80.230.activision.com) has joined #apolyton [Floyd] hi azmel... [Reismark] chat client froze up [Owlboy] Borders are different, I don't think you can do that from SLIC. [Owlboy] But borders are at the very TOP of our list. [BDRAGON] Make it so technology matters more... [Akula] might it be something yee could do with an addon pack? [Atahualpa] an accurate timelin [Atahualpa] balanced gameplay [Akula] do you think it was a mistake not to implement them in the gme or do yee still feel it was not worth it [Atahualpa] to make all governments attractive [Reismark] what'd I miss? [Owlboy] Atah, "embassy system like trade system" -- what do you mean? [Floyd] In my opinion, I think that the CTP team would be better off working on a large add-on pack, and determine from how well that goes over whether or not there is demand for a totally new game [Atahualpa] Building an embassy in a city (an improvment) and selecting the civ which it should connect to! Voila! No more walking around with Diplomats [Owlboy] I've got some scenario stuff in the works. [Akula] Maybe looking at The Rise of Rome [Stebu] no, addons always suck. With the exception of Rise of Rome, all expansion packs... [Akula] a really extensive addon pack for aoe [Stebu] ...has been a huge ripoff [Akula] Thats how it should be done [Atahualpa] Btw, that is covered in my suggestions I sent to you. Point 2.2 I think [Floyd] What about Fantastic Worlds and Civ2: MGE [Stebu] HAVE been [Floyd] they didn't suck [Floyd] What about Team Fortress for Half Life [BDRAGON] Brood Wars for SC was ok [Reismark] FW was good [Floyd] Yeah and Brood Wars [Stebu] FW wasn't good at all. No scenarios was worth playing, and it didn't bring anything new to the game. [Reismark] Mark, how's progress on Clash of Civs coming? [Akula] agreed stebu [Floyd] I disagree - USA 2010 was one of the best scenarios up to that time [Owlboy] Are you guys looking forward to Test of Time? [Atahualpa] no [Floyd] Yeah, I am [Squid] Yes. [Floyd] Assuming it is actually a totally new game rather than a big modpack [Stebu] USA 2010 wasn't made by Microprose (???) , or? [Owlboy] BTW, azmel is our AI programmer. [BlueWaldo] maybe, time will tell [Atahualpa] I dont like the civ2 engine anymore [MarkG] Reis, I think the guys are still working for a first playable version. I have no news on their totally new website, which will be hosted on Apolyton [Akula] One thing I really hate is how much I've spent on microprose civ games [Akula] $50 original game [Stebu] Same here Akula. [Squid] And all of it worth it! [Reismark] is it still going to be all CGI? i can think how the server will feel if it is.... [Stebu] Yup, same here again. [Akula] $25 each for teh 2 mods [Stebu] No Squid, it's not [SMACer] back [Akula] and another $50 for MGE [Stebu] CiC was the worst thing I have ever brought, after the nail-o-matic [Akula] thats $150 [Floyd] MGE was only $20 [MarkG] Reis, no, hopefully not [Floyd] for me [SMACer] I didn't get MGE [Reismark] CiC was bad.... [BlueWaldo] the thing i didnt like about SMAC which was awsome in CTP was the PW system...that is one of the best things ever added to civ and it better be in civ3 [Akula] here in europe [Squid] Think: If you play it for 300 hours, you're only paying about 16 cents an hour... [SMACer] and I spent only 20 for each of the mods [Stebu] an expansion pack is supposed to bring new stuff to the game, not just be a patch [SMACer] True, Squidy [Akula] you had to buy the ulitimate classic collection [Floyd] Public Works was a great concept, I agree BlueWaldo [Akula] which was $50 they only release mge on its own a few months later [Stebu] PW was excellent, yeah [Akula] public works is great *** MarkG sets mode: +v Azmel [SG_St-Leo] FW added lots of cool events and enlarged the maximum size of events.txt [Owlboy] Yeah, we love PW. [Stebu] Floffiedifloffiedi floph floph flunkie [BlueWaldo] i paied 40 for civ (in 97) and 30 for mge whcih included all the addons [Atahualpa] PW is great but it wouldnt have mattered to me if the city would have developed itself all alone [Owlboy] What other CTP stuff do you think broke good Civ-series ground? [SMACer] I don't know, I never played CTP, and for some (stupid) reason, they never released a demo! [Floyd] Well worth it I think BlueWaldo [Atahualpa] TRADE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!! [SG_St-Leo] No real scenario developer writes CiC or MGE scenarios now [Atahualpa] ROCKS [Owlboy] The demo is due out this month, SMACer. [Floyd] I liked the units, personally [Owlboy] Cool, yeah, Trade system. [Squid] The Giant Squid resource! [Floyd] Trade system was cool [Owlboy] What's CiC? [MarkG] I like the "maps with mutliple levels" idea of ToT... [Floyd] The whole Slaving system was pretty neat [Owlboy] You're biased, Squid. [SG_St-Leo] Conflicts in Civilization [Stebu] What St Leo, that makes it worth it? The expansion pack should actually add something to the game, instead of just including the minor details they "forgot" to include in the first expansion parck. [Floyd] Conflict in Civilization [Stebu] PACK [Owlboy] Oh. [Floyd] First Civ2 addon [Atahualpa] SPACE COLONIES and WATER COLONIES [Atahualpa] although I think water colonies could have been improved [BlueWaldo] one thing that buged me in CTP there were to many tarrian types. and alot of them looked alike [Floyd] I liked underwater tunnels [SMACer] A little too late (demo) Owlboy [Owlboy] Yeah, we have fertile ground to work on sea and space for future versions. [SG_St-Leo] I heard that the CtP trade system moves coal to Newcastle [Squid] I thought there were too few...not varied enough... [MarkG] CTP gave us space, ToT went underground :) [Atahualpa] attacking a water colony with a battleship is IMO a bit well unrealistic [Owlboy] Yeah, SMAC'er, I worry that too. [SMACer] The buzz is gone.... *** Stebu has quit IRC (Stebu) [Atahualpa] would have been better if deep sea got an own layer, like the space layer [SMACer] I wonder what Sid and Brian have under their respective sleeves :) [Floyd] Yeah I agree ata [SG_St-Leo] There are 4 simultaneous layers in ToT, each with its own terrain.gifs [Floyd] Something that can be done better in all Civ-like games is the submarine concept, IMO [Reismark] Floyd, I'm still waiting for you to join the SC [BlueWaldo] have u all seen this months pc gamer with BR and Sid and 23 other gods [SG_St-Leo] They are stacked on top of each other [Floyd] The SC? [Floyd] Scenario Contest? [SMACer] Ugh, Lawyers was on of the reasons that I never got CTP [BDRAGON] This time, make a downloadable demo for CTP2 fairly early on.... [Squid] You can use ToT for ocean and space colonization, if you do it right... [SMACer] No, BW... what did it say? *** SG_St-Leo is now known as St-Leo [Reismark] No, the Stories collective - don't you want to mod the Globe? [St-Leo] What chat? [Floyd] Stories Collective - oh yeah, whatever happened with that? I'll be happy to mod the Globe, if you tell me a bit about it... [Atahualpa] Azmel, who are you? [Reismark] the URL is http://storycol.virtualave.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi [BlueWaldo] it just had a think on all of the 25 greatest game dev., what htye have done, and what thery are going to do *** Lancer (~java_user@portal2-ip146-67.winfinity.com) has joined #apolyton [Atahualpa] Lancer grrrr [SMACer] Cool, BW! I'll pick it up, then! [Atahualpa] :) [Reismark] the Globe is pseudo-World 99 and Today's World [SMACer] Lancer! [Azmel] Athahulpa, I'm the AI programmer on CTP, is that what you mean? [Atahualpa] yes, thank you [Reismark] just register and i'll make you a mod. [Lancer] Hi guys! [Floyd] give me the URL one more time? [Floyd] disappeared somehow for me [Reismark] http://storycol.virtualave.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi [Floyd] hi lancer [Lancer] and a big Hi! from my wife too [SMACer] Um... ok [Lancer] Hi Floyd [Floyd] ok thanks going there now... [Floyd] did this crash again??? [Reismark] ignore the pop-ups - I still have to fix them [SMACer] Hey cool, the Petition to Free YYYH and Spink has gone over 50! [Floyd] DOH crashed again [BDRAGON] I doubt Gamestats will care [Lancer] What is crashing? [St-Leo] Don't free them, we like them here at *censored* site [SMACer] LOL! St. Leo! [St-Leo] Crashing is the act of your computer screwing you [Squid] *censored* site is EVIL! [Reismark] St. Leo - sidgames? [Floyd] OK, Reismark, I'm registering now... [Squid] DON [SMACer] I'm at that *censored* site [St-Leo] Yes [Squid] 'T SAY THE WORD [BlueWaldo] ues *censored* site is evil [Reismark] SIDGAMES [BDRAGON] Squid: And why is Sudgames so evil? [Lancer] So,besides Mark and Dan,who was here first? [St-Leo] Our Civ2 section sucks [Atahualpa] Sidgames has bad forums [BlueWaldo] is kual (or what ever his name is) still there? [St-Leo] Says who! [Reismark] yes, he runs the place [Atahualpa] all weired up there [Lancer] At Apolyton that is [Atahualpa] sys me [Atahualpa] says me [St-Leo] Our forums are supe... never mind [Atahualpa] :) [Squid] And it's hosting policy. AND anagrams for the webmaster's name. AND it's competing with Apolyton. AND it uses Sid's name in vain. AND.... [SMACer] I left Apolyton... basically *** Owlboy has quit IRC (Owlboy) [Floyd] OK, I'm registered as David Floyd, Reismark [BDRAGON] SMACer = YYYH? [DanQ] There is nothing wrong with our forums (ACS) [SMACer] Nope [BDRAGON] Stewart Spink? [SMACer] Nope [Huey] must be imran [St-Leo] Sid [BDRAGON] Saras? [St-Leo] Sid [St-Leo] Sid [BlueWaldo] i love how they call them selves sidgames and then cover none sid games [Reismark] Imran [St-Leo] Siddamn heretics [Atahualpa] Smacer=EVC? [St-Leo] Sid save the queen [SMACer] Well, Dan, yes. But there is nothing wrong with SidGames or Firaxis either [Du_Chateau] SMACer=IRMAN [SMACer] Huey, how'd ya guess... [SMACer] :) [Squid] There are a million things wrong with SidGames!!! [Huey] you told 30 minutes ago :-)) [SMACer] Oh right :) [Atahualpa] SidGames has a good Gettysburg site, however [DanQ] I never said or implied that there was something wrong with SidGames' or Firaxis' either. [St-Leo] Alright, but we have a respectable OT forum:-) [Huey] telepathy aint that hard :-))) [SMACer] I go for the forums, stay for the Kool-Aid! [St-Leo] Can we change the subject? [Reismark] and now you have competition for Third War [Floyd] Yes change the subject [Lancer] Thank you St Leo [Floyd] Third War? Today's World kills Third War [SMACer] Um.... new subject? [Lancer] Beer [BDRAGON] And don't forget The World 99 [Floyd] lol [SMACer] Beer! [Floyd] Yes and World 99 [Huey] or girls [Atahualpa] Beer, okay! [Atahualpa] Which is the best beer? [Lancer] Oregon microbrew is the best [St-Leo] Babes [Squid] What about those of us below legal drinking age? [Huey] belgian beer [St-Leo] Canadian beer is the best [Floyd] Like me [Reismark] andme *** Owlboy (~java_user@atvi240.230.activision.com) has joined #apolyton [St-Leo] And me [Lancer] Ata,can I buy you a beer? [SMACer] Or we can talk about how Gamestats sucks! [Huey] what? minors here? [Atahualpa] Sure [Floyd] hi yet again owlboy :) [BlueWaldo] what is wrong with GS? [Atahualpa] Give me one of your specials [Lancer] Done,next time I seeya [Squid] GameStats is fine. It's probably Heaven's fault.... [Akula] Irish Beer [St-Leo] Heh [Huey] yuk, irish beer [Lancer] Poll [Atahualpa] Anyone ever tasted Heineken? *** MarkG sets mode: +v Owlboy [Owlboy] Damn, keep bouncing off of here. [Reismark] Blue Waldo, do you read ot? [BDRAGON] Those of us here who are under the drinking age can have Belgian Choclates instead..... [Akula] My sister works for Heineken [Owlboy] Ok, so I'm only going to be here for another 10 minutes or so. [Huey] heineken? they make it here, theres no escape [Lancer] Who here has heard of 'Microbrew'? [BDRAGON] If only Colon were here [BlueWaldo] some but not much, Y? [Floyd] Courtesy of Colon of course BD [Owlboy] Is there anything else you guys want the CTP team to be aware of? [SMACer] Yeah, DAMN HEAVENS! [Atahualpa] YES! [Atahualpa] WAIT! [Squid] DOWN WITH HEAVEN!!!!! [SMACer] YEAH! [Floyd] Calm down guys [Akula] Ireland is the home of good quality drink [St-Leo] Yes, they should all quit and be hired by Firaxis:-) [MarkG] Stop it Squid [Atahualpa] arhg, I am running out of ideas [Atahualpa] damn [Reismark] read it and you'll know why Imran and a bunch of others are pissed [BlueWaldo] well could the Ctp team hire BR and Sid? [Azmel] Anyone got any comments on what their "dream diplomacy system" would be like? [Squid] I say we go inva...oops. Wait til Mark and Dan leave... [SMACer] Exactly Reismark [St-Leo] Stop picking on heaven [MarkG] Steve, an estimation on the release date for the patch? :) [SMACer] LOL! Squid! [Akula] like smac [Floyd] Actually, Azmel, I kind of liked the Master of Orion 2 diplomacy system [Atahualpa] no *** Gibster (gi6ster@asn16-146.mcmail.com) has joined #apolyton [Atahualpa] MOO2 is to old [Floyd] There was something about it that beat Civ2, SMAC, CTP, and the others [Squid] hI [Azmel] what about it though? [Floyd] hi gibster [Akula] but if youve played botf its nice to have the option to change your tone of voice [Akula] and to set time limits on agreements [Gibster] Hey, it works. Hooray [Owlboy] Mark, a couple weeks or so. We're giving it a good solid QA. Don't hold me to anything, though. I'm not allowed to make release date statements, I'm just a programmer. :-D [Akula] also a complex trading system [Floyd] Reseach treaties, trade treaties, several different kinds of pacts, trade technology etc. [Lancer] I just realized why I like the forums so much [Floyd] It could use modernization work of course [Atahualpa] why? [Gibster] Why? [BDRAGON] Why? [Atahualpa] lol [Squid] Why? [Akula] let the player say give me a cease fire for 25 turns and I'll give you 500 gold, this city, and this technology [Gibster] Why? [SMACer] Hmmmm....so is anyone thinking of Civ3, right about now? [Lancer] They move at my speed [Azmel] I agree [Atahualpa] lol [Huey] hehehe lancer [Squid] Too slow. This is just fine... [Atahualpa] oh, owlboy [Atahualpa] I have a suggestion [Reismark] me SMACer [Floyd] Actually, Azmel, I think that Diplomacy is the biggest improvement that CTP can make [BDRAGON] Is this forum too fast for the old folks? [Huey] going for the record lancer? [Floyd] It's pretty good other than that [Akula] also if you look at BOTF [Lancer] You guys type too fast,and I think too slow. [Atahualpa] hide the number of the units of a stack [Akula] you can fight the enemy without declaring war [Azmel] Floyd, that is definately an area we have plans to improve [Floyd] Yeah BOTF has some neat things in it too [Atahualpa] So that I am in the dark about it [Akula] declarations of war should bbe optional [Akula] not automatic [SMACer] Ok, Reismark... what do want in it? [Floyd] Great! [Atahualpa] but, I can use a scout, to examine the other troops strenght [Lancer] Huey,I'm going for that with my beer swilling thread. [Reismark] storylines [Akula] for example its unlikely that if the US sank a chinese ship in US territorial waters that the chinese would declare war [Atahualpa] this would add a little bit to strategy *** MarkG sets mode: +o reismark *** djinn (~java_user@node1412.a2000.nl) has joined #apolyton [Akula] maybe an incident but probably not war [Huey] ja, but thatll go only to 100 [Floyd] If they did they'd be stupid akula :) [Atahualpa] not knowing the real strength of your enemy [Lancer] Or I was before Stefu spilled the brew [Atahualpa] you got that? [Gibster] Just what is +o? [Owlboy] Maybe scouting gets you a stack size indicator? [Atahualpa] yes [Floyd] Yeah that would be a good idea I think [Owlboy] And/or health indicator? [SMACer] Anyone know about how much ToT will cost? [Huey] your betting thread makes agood chance:-)) [Lancer] Anyone ever heard of the Spratly Islands? [St-Leo] Opping [BlueWaldo] yeah what is +o [Azmel] there's a natural tension between complexity and easy of play.. some people don't want to have to worry about dip and other want the original game "Diplomacy" back. [SMACer] Ops... [Atahualpa] and if you have a scout attached to a stack, you have some bonuses too [St-Leo] It means they can kick people from the chat [Atahualpa] or the other having less terrain bonuses [Reismark] how do you do that anyway? [Atahualpa] because you have scouted out the terrain ;) [Gibster] Isn't that, bad? [Squid] You go /kick #apolyton NAME [Lancer] Huey,it might,depends on the prize] [BlueWaldo] ok what is the differance between +o and @ ? [SMACer] Mmmm, Diplomacy is coming out for the PC soon! [Squid] None. [Gibster] Diplomacy? That'll be by... hasbro? [Squid] What isn't? [Owlboy] :-0 [Atahualpa] Diplomacy is a very important part of civ games, I think nobody would leave it out [Du_Chateau] yes [Owlboy] how true [Owlboy] What about advisors? [Owlboy] Did you guys miss advisors in CTP? [Atahualpa] not really [SMACer] Yes, Diplomacy by Hasbro... [Floyd] Well, if you put in advisors, make them useful advisors, UNLIKE the ones in Civ2 [Squid] No. Those were sort of superfluous.... [Owlboy] Either as a simple sentence of advice, or as little guys you could call up who would talk to you? [Atahualpa] I only missed screens where all facts are shown [SMACer] Microprose, I think...which is owned by Hasbro [Floyd] I think that they should be optional, but they should also offer useful advice [Gibster] Ah, those sill "I agree Sire". They were cute for about four minutes [BlueWaldo] when will diploicy come out? [Atahualpa] but, advisors could be made more attractive (better ai, more functions, saving time) so that I would use them [St-Leo] ]] /mode {channel} +v {nick} gives {nick} a voice [Azmel] Would you want to be able to pawn off certain tasks to your advisors? Ie. build my public works, etc. [Atahualpa] yes, why not [SMACer] BW, this fall... [DanQ] I'll be back in ~1/2 hour or so! Trust everyone is enjoying today's chat. [Floyd] Yeah, you mean automation [St-Leo] Imperialism 2 had great advisors [Floyd] As long as it works, again unlike Settler automation in Civ2 [Floyd] Yep, I am Dan [Lancer] Thank you Dan,yes [Squid] Yes, Bye. [Huey] tnx dan, cu [St-Leo] One could change their orders without turning them off [Lancer] I don't have time to type,only read! [Floyd] lol@lancer [Atahualpa] I also missed a screen in CTP where it told me how many force fields I have and other improvements [Lancer] My wife is kissing me too [Owlboy] What would you use that screen for, Atah? [Atahualpa] selling all improvements in my cities with one click [Lancer] Why? [Atahualpa] checking how much they cost me [Floyd] In Civ, I used that to determine how much I was spending on what improvements [SMACer] Hmm, anyone wish to talk about anything BUT CTP.... [Owlboy] So selling them by improvement, rather than by city. [Gibster] Woah, I didn't realise Hasbro was a multinational corporate capitalistic peeg. [Gibster] Why have I received no messages? [Atahualpa] yes [Floyd] Yeah, like in SMAC owlboy [Owlboy] "Sell all temples?" [Floyd] You can sell all improvements at once [Atahualpa] yeah! [Atahualpa] for example [Owlboy] Ah, ok. [Owlboy] Gotcha. [Floyd] Selling improvements is one of my tricks for fast cash to beat the AI to wonders [Owlboy] What about having a governer who offers to sell outdated improvements for you? [Gibster] What, is that a ToT feature? [Floyd] Much easier if you can sell them all at once [Atahualpa] would be great [SMACer] Gibster, Hasbro is HUGE NOW! [Owlboy] Well, I've gotta run now. [Atahualpa] as I already said, I sent you some suggestions, some things are covered there [Owlboy] It's been great talking to you guys. [Floyd] OK, thanks for coming [Owlboy] Thanks for all of your suggestions. [Reismark] gotta run, guys. enjoy the chat. [SMACer] Later, reismark [Floyd] Good luck with your programming :) [Atahualpa] k, bye owlboy [Squid] bye, *** reismark has quit IRC (reismark) [Floyd] bye [Azmel] I'd better get some work done too. Nice hear from you. [Gibster] Why "HUGE NOW"? [Floyd] Sure, nice to talk to you [Atahualpa] bye azmel *** Azmel has quit IRC (Azmel) [Huey] bye [Gibster] Bye, it was a hoot (cringe) [BlueWaldo] well i look at the clock and just relized i just blew and hour that should have been used coding for CivLeague [Owlboy] Our team is dedicated to our users, and to making CTP the best game it can possibly be. [Akula] /msg z adduser #apolyton MarkG 50 *!*@*.otenet.gr Onde estão você? [Akula] dam [SMACer] Hmm, maybe we can talk about something other than CTP... eh? [Gibster] Pardon me? [Floyd] Well again, thanks for taking time to listen to us owlboy... [Lancer] I should have showered [Owlboy] We don't want Brian and Sid to have the market cornered on civilization building games. *** djinn has quit IRC (djinn) [Squid] Yes we do! [Atahualpa] my opinion [Floyd] Yeah, you guys made me miss a shower for this chat :) [Owlboy] I love them, and love their games too. [Floyd] Competition is good [Gibster] What is Owlboy? [Atahualpa] agree [Floyd] CTP, SMAC, and Civ are all good in their own ways [Lancer] I figger we're why they left Floyd [Owlboy] But keep your eye on us, we're gonna do some great things! [Owlboy] Bye now. [Atahualpa] bye [Squid] Bye, *** Owlboy has quit IRC (Owlboy)
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