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  • I thought The Wire ended in 2008

    But it turns out they're filming new episodes in Baltimore right now.

    Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiit


  • #2
    Isn't this kind of bull**** just going to make cops hate black people more?

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    • #3
      If GriBBler were here he would know what to do!
      Order of the Fly
      Those that cannot curse, cannot heal.

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      • #4
        This and the Ferguson riots have done an outstanding job of reinforcing everyone's worst prejudices.

        Help me reconstruct this train of logic because somewhere along the way I got lost:

        Black guy dies in police custody -> ???? -> rob stores, commit arson
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #5
          Send in the moms?
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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          • #6
            I'm curious how well the mayor's offer to allow people the space to destroy is playing now.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              I watched her press conference and she was lamenting how giving the protestors the space to protest also gave rioters and looters the space to destroy

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              • #8
                here's the quote

                "I made it very clear that I work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech.

                "It's a very delicate balancing act. Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well. And we worked very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate."

                she's talking about how the protests gave cover (space) for the criminals

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  This and the Ferguson riots have done an outstanding job of reinforcing everyone's worst prejudices.
                  Correct, yet I suspect you may be thinking about this from the opposite side to many millions of other people.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    This and the Ferguson riots have done an outstanding job of reinforcing everyone's worst prejudices.

                    Help me reconstruct this train of logic because somewhere along the way I got lost:

                    Black guy dies in police custody -> ???? -> rob stores, commit arson
                    Yes, your racism has really come to the fore in these threads.
                    "Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" Loinburger

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                    • #11
                      A different perspective: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...liance/391640/

                      Rioting broke out on Monday in Baltimore—an angry response to the death of Freddie Gray, a death my native city seems powerless to explain. Gray did not die mysteriously in some back alley but in the custody of the city's publicly appointed guardians of order. And yet the mayor of that city and the commissioner of that city's police still have no idea what happened. I suspect this is not because the mayor and police commissioner are bad people, but because the state of Maryland prioritizes the protection of police officers charged with abuse over the citizens who fall under its purview.

                      The citizens who live in West Baltimore, where the rioting began, intuitively understand this. I grew up across the street from Mondawmin Mall, where today's riots began. My mother was raised in the same housing project, Gilmor Homes, where Freddie Gray was killed. Everyone I knew who lived in that world regarded the police not with admiration and respect but with fear and caution. People write these feelings off as wholly irrational at their own peril, or their own leisure. The case against the Baltimore police, and the society that superintends them, is easily made:
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                      Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson ....

                      And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims—if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him—a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was “shocked.”
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                      The money paid out by the city to cover for the brutal acts of its police department would be enough to build "a state-of-the-art rec center or renovations at more than 30 playgrounds." Instead, the money was used to cover for the brutal acts of the city's police department and ensure they remained well beyond any semblance of justice.

                      Now, tonight, I turn on the news and I see politicians calling for young people in Baltimore to remain peaceful and "nonviolent." These well-intended pleas strike me as the right answer to the wrong question. To understand the question, it's worth remembering what, specifically, happened to Freddie Gray. An officer made eye contact with Gray. Gray, for unknown reasons, ran. The officer and his colleagues then detained Gray. They found him in possession of a switchblade. They arrested him while he yelled in pain. And then, within an hour, his spine was mostly severed. A week later, he was dead. What specifically was the crime here? What particular threat did Freddie Gray pose? Why is mere eye contact and then running worthy of detention at the hands of the state? Why is Freddie Gray dead?

                      The people now calling for nonviolence are not prepared to answer these questions. Many of them are charged with enforcing the very policies that led to Gray's death, and yet they can offer no rational justification for Gray's death and so they appeal for calm. But there was no official appeal for calm when Gray was being arrested. There was no appeal for calm when Jerriel Lyles was assaulted. (“The blow was so heavy. My eyes swelled up. Blood was dripping down my nose and out my eye.”) There was no claim for nonviolence on behalf of Venus Green. (“*****, you ain’t no better than any of the other old black *****es I have locked up.”) There was no plea for peace on behalf of Starr Brown. (“They slammed me down on my face,” Brown added, her voice cracking. “The skin was gone on my face.")

                      When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is "correct" or "wise," any more than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Wisdom isn't the point tonight. Disrespect is. In this case, disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.
                      That being said, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the rioting of course.

                      JM
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
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                      • #12
                        Is this America's new war: The War on Blacks?

                        Finally a subject that is truly black and white...
                        "Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" Loinburger

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                        • #13
                          Not new at all

                          JM
                          Jon Miller-
                          I AM.CANADIAN
                          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                          • #14
                            Ongoing War on Blacks then.

                            Certainly seems far more effective than the War on Drugs, or the War on Terror...

                            Who knows, it may even end up as wildly successful as the War on Christians in the Middle East...?
                            "Aha, you must have supported the Iraq war and wear underpants made out of firearms, just like every other American!" Loinburger

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              This and the Ferguson riots have done an outstanding job of reinforcing everyone's worst prejudices.

                              Help me reconstruct this train of logic because somewhere along the way I got lost:

                              Black guy dies in police custody -> ???? -> rob stores, commit arson
                              You're treating this as some sort of tactical decision, where they look at the situation and decide on a course of action that will further their interests. Aside from the unfairness of expecting that level of organization from a hastily-gathered and very angry crowd, you're assuming that there is, in fact, a course of action that will further their interests. I think the whole point is that there is not; black people keep getting beaten or killed for petty offenses, and fifty years after MLK they've basically run out of patience and hope. They don't believe the system will change no matter what they do, but they've tried everything peaceful and that hasn't worked. We crackers at least pay attention when they start burning ****, albeit not for long.

                              (the looting part is actually fairly logical and straightforward: if all the cops are busy dodging bricks, and you're a crackhead, hey, look, free stuff!)
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