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  • #1

    Is this hate speech?

    I have a question of Apolyton. Ran across something the other day, and was curious as to the opinion of polytubbies.


    "Conjugal love involves a totality, in which all the elements of the person enter - appeal of the body and instinct, power of feeling and affectivity, aspiration of the spirit and of will. It aims at a deeply personal unity, a unity that, beyond union in one flesh, leads to forming one heart and soul; it demands indissolubility and faithfulness in definitive mutual giving; and it is open to fertility. In a word it is a question of the normal characteristics of all natural conjugal love, but with a new significance which not only purifies and strengthens them, but raises them to the extent of making them the expression of specifically Christian values."
    Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
    "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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  • #2
    cant tell, too many big words

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    • #3
      If a man knows his wife his barren should he leave her and find another one? If a woman knows her husband is sterile should she sleep with other men? That seems kind of hateful IMHO.

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      • #4
        What if a woman had a hysterectomy and doesn't even have a uterus? Is a man still "open to fertility" when he shags her without a condom?

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        • #5
          What if a woman had a hysterectomy and doesn't even have a uterus? Is a man still "open to fertility" when he shags her without a condom?
          Would depend on the circumstances. When were they married?

          If a man knows his wife his barren should he leave her and find another one? If a woman knows her husband is sterile should she sleep with other men? That seems kind of hateful IMHO.
          As I understand, only if one or both parties claimed that they were able to have children and then evidence came out showing this was false, and that they knew this prior.
          Last edited by Ben Kenobi; April 24, 2015, 21:25.
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Would depend on the circumstances. When were they married?
            Assume they got married after the hysterectomy had taken place and had sex after marrying.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by spambot View Post
              If a man knows his wife his barren should he leave her and find another one? If a woman knows her husband is sterile should she sleep with other men? That seems kind of hateful IMHO.
              Hateful speech is not hate speech. This is what's happening to language. I don't know why. But we're all turning into spam bots.
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              • #8
                Assume they got married after the hysterectomy had taken place and had sex after marrying.
                Provided that's been disclosed prior to marriage, no issues there.
                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  Provided that's been disclosed prior to marriage, no issues there.
                  So having sex that can't possibly result in reproduction is fine as long as it's not gay sex? (Or the wrong kind of straight sex?)

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                  • #10
                    I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                    [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      if one or both parties claimed that they were able to have children and then evidence came out showing this was false, and that they knew this prior.
                      how would they know?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                        how would they know?
                        jesus voodoomagic, duh?
                        I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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                        • #13
                          how would they know?
                          Doctor's records usually the easiest way. Most commonly this happens after a vasectomy, tubal that's not disclosed.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                          2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                          • #14
                            So having sex that can't possibly result in reproduction is fine as long as it's not gay sex? (Or the wrong kind of straight sex?)
                            The key here is intentionality. Sterilization would fall afoul of this whereas infertility would not. The only case where infertility would come up is if this was known and was not disclosed prior. It's quite possible for a couple to not know and then discover later that infertility is a problem.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                            • #15
                              I submit that if BK wrote it or quoted it, it is, by definition, hate speech. Stop your microaggression.
                              There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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