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    Cambridge Study Reveals How Life Could Have Started From Nothing

    One of the most challenging questions in basic biology and the history of evolution and life stems from the unknown origin of the first cells billions of years ago. Though many pieces of the puzzle have been put together, this origin story remains somewhat murky. But a team of researchers from the University of Cambridge believe they've accidentally stumbled on an answer, and a very compelling one at that.

    The discovery: Through routine quality control testing, a researcher working with Markus Ralser, who would eventually become the lead researcher for the project, stumbled upon signs of the metabolic process where, for all intents and purposes, there shouldn't have been. Until now, much of the science community has generally agreed that Ribonucleic acid, or RNA, was the first building block of life because it produces enzymes that could catalyze complex sequences of reactions such as metabolic action. However, Ralser's lab found the end products of the metabolic process without any presence of RNA. Instead, the findings indicate that complex and life-forming reactions like these could occur spontaneously given the right, but surprisingly simple, conditions.

    "People have said that these pathways look so complex they couldn't form by environmental chemistry alone," Rasler told NewScientist. "This is the first experiment showing that it is possible to create metabolic networks in the absence of RNA."

    Testing: Because Rasler's team basically stumbled upon their initial findings, they repeated the process several times and were pleasantly surprised with repeat successful outcomes. So, taking things to the next level, Rasler began working with Cambridge's Earth sciences department to determine if these processes could have occurred in the Archean Ocean, the oxygen-free world, predating photosynthesis, which covered the planet almost 4 billion years ago.

    "In the beginning we had hoped to find one reaction or two maybe, but the results were amazing," said Ralser. "We could reconstruct two metabolic pathways almost entirely."

    If these metabolic pathways were occurring in the absence of RNA in conditions rich with iron and other metals and phosphate, it seems increasingly likely that life could have literally started from nothing and spontaneously formed in ways until now believed impossible.

    So what? "I think this paper has really interesting connotations for the origins of life," says Matthew Powner at University College London. "For origins of life, it is important to understand where the source molecules come from."

    Rasler's team has been the first to show that life could literally come from nothing. Of course, in the scientific community, this could be a major advancement, albeit one that is still only a part of an overall picture that's still forming through years of continuing research. However, these findings could also potentially play into the creationism versus evolution debate. One of the holes often poked by creationists is the complex and hard-to-explain idea of life started from nothing at all, and for the most part scientific explanations have been somewhat lacking. However, these findings indicate that something from nothing might not be as far-fetched idea as it seems.
    http://mic.com/articles/88441/cambri...d-from-nothing

    Fascinating study, if it's proven then I think the question of whether life exists basically everywhere in the universe has also just been answered.

  • #2
    very interesting stuff.
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    • #3
      I'm amused that they stumbled on this by accident. One of the creationist "arguments" is that abiogenesis is impossible, and if it's not impossible then it's proof of intelligent design because scientists designed the experiment to produce life. But if they didn't design the experiment with that purpose in mind...
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      • #4
        pure brilliance indeed...
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • #5
          Literally from nothing ...

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          • #6
            LITERALLY
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #7
              NO ATOMS OR IONS OR ANYTHING!
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #8
                I'm amused that they stumbled on this by accident. One of the creationist "arguments" is that abiogenesis is impossible, and if it's not impossible then it's proof of intelligent design because scientists designed the experiment to produce life. But if they didn't design the experiment with that purpose in mind...
                Uh, it's not an argument from creationists that abiogenesis is impossible. It's been scientifically verified, and a crucial portion of biology. Particularly the germ theory of disease.
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                • #9
                  must be pretty awesome to always be able to fall back on the crutch of "God" when it comes to things you don't understand, eh?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    if it's proven
                    Files article with 'string theory'.
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                    • #11
                      pretty awesome to always be able to fall back on the crutch of "God" when it comes to things you don't understand, eh?
                      What part of 'scientifically verified through actual science which proved the existence of things like bacteria, etc in order to explain unexplained phenomena in nature? Seriously. Abiogenesis was postulated back as late as the 18th century as an explanation for why food spoiled. Does that sound like a particularly appealing notion?
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                      • #12
                        Seems like you have a higher standard for "proof" when it comes to science.

                        also, Rivers is a junk quarterback who can't win anything
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #13
                          Seems like you have a higher standard for "proof" when it comes to science.
                          You're arguing we should take science on faith?
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                          • #14
                            I'm just pointing out that you have absolutely zero credibility when discussing... well... most anything
                            (with a few notable exceptions)
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              I'm just pointing out that you have absolutely zero credibility when discussing... well... most anything
                              (with a few notable exceptions)
                              One, I would argue that a significant chunk of my degree has been spent studying empiricism and the history of it's development, it's philosophical underpinnings, etc.

                              Empiricism has certain rules that must be followed in order for something to be considered science. This includes replicability, and what you probably term the scientific method.

                              The curious thing is that evolution fails the empirical standard as it is not a testable hypothesis nor has it been observed. It is a theory.
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