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The Emperor Fabulous
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Due to the economic insanity, the story of Galveston and Hurricane Ike has been lost in the news. You may assume that, due to lack of coverage, Ike was an insurance nightmare, but relatively small on the loss of American life, at "only" 61. You'd be wrong.

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Gail Ettenger made her last phone call at 10:10 p.m. She was trapped in her Bolivar Peninsula bungalow with her Great Dane, Reba. A drowning cat cried outside. Her Jeep bobbed in the seawater surging around her home.

Ettenger, 58, told her friend she was reading old love letters by flashlight. "I think I really screwed up this time," she said, according to Monroe Burks, Ettenger's neighbor who had evacuated to Houston.

That was Friday, Sept 12. On Wednesday — 12 days later — her nearly nude body was found face down by a huge debris pile in a remote mosquito-ridden marsh in Chambers County, about 10 miles inland from where her gray beach house once stood.

Two weeks after Hurricane Ike swept through the Texas coast, 400 people remain missing, mostly from Galveston County, according to an analysis of calls logged to a hot line set up by the nonprofit Laura Recovery Center to assist local authorities.

Until Wednesday, Ettenger was one of them.

About 60 of the missing lived on the Bolivar Peninsula, stripped bare by the storm surge that felled beach houses like a bomb. More than 200 were listed as missing on Galveston Island itself, according to a city-by-city analysis of the data conducted for the Houston Chronicle by Bob Walcutt, executive director of the recovery center in Friendswood.

Hot line and rescue workers hope that many people, especially on Galveston Island, will be reunited with family and friends as hurricane recovery efforts continue. More than 145 already have been located through blogs, media Web sites, Red Cross shelter lists, endless phone calls, welfare checks and sometimes dramatic rescues led by the Galveston County Sheriff's Office and other agencies.

Yet disturbing tales told by survivors from Bolivar communities like Gilchrist, Crystal Beach and Port Bolivar suggest some may never return.

"There's still lots of people who are not accounted for," said Capt. Rod Ousley, of the State Parks & Wildlife Service, which is helping to search for survivors or bodies in remote corners of several coastal counties. "We don't know if they got washed out to sea, or buried in the sand or in debris piles. We just keep looking until they come up ... we're just going to keep trying."


Rest of article here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...ke/6027458.html

If each person were confirmed dead, Ike would be the 5th deadliest American hurricane of the last 100 years.

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Washed out to sea is the growing opinion, as the article notes.

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bad times

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How many of these people didn't follow evacuation orders?

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I'm pretty much thinking, all of them.

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THE POOR CAT !

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In an odd way this reminds me of europe during the cold war. The Sovs had a huge superiority and the euros were slashing defense spending. If the Russians had attacked I'm sure your average euro would be shocked, wondering 'how could this have happened?' Of course NATO had been declaring europe undefendable, that we would have to go to nukes almost right away...

But the euros wanted a new BMW, not a tank.

Anyway, the governor said it was certain death to stay in low lieing areas and people in those areas died. The whole thing had happened before and lots of people died.

Sorry, but there's Darwin award potential here.

That's not to say it wasn't tragic...but its also the choice of those that died. The gov tells me there's a storm coming and that if I stay I will die, I leave. Just that simple.

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Your brain is broken, isn't it?

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Let me check. Seems ok. Thanks for the concern Che.

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The warning was, "If you stay, it's certain death!" I've never heard that warning being given ever before. Why did these people think they could get away ignoring it?


Although, the old lady spending her last minutes reading old love letters. That's kinda cool, in a macabre sort of way.

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I'm glad I wrote them now.

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The warning was, "If you stay, it's certain death!" I've never heard that warning being given ever before. Why did these people think they could get away ignoring it?

Although, the old lady spending her last minutes reading old love letters. That's kinda cool, in a macabre sort of way.


58 isn't old.

The certain death warning for NOLA and Gustav. I just don't understand how anyone who lived in the town famous for being destroyed and home of the worst one-off natural disaster death toll in American history would decide to tough it out after all the bad storms we've had recently.

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Let me check. Seems ok. Thanks for the concern Che.


You need to have someone else check it. If it's broken, you'd be using your broken instrument to check whether or not it was broken.

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You need to have someone else check it. If it's broken, you'd be using your broken instrument to check whether or not it was broken.


Don't two wrongs make a right??

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Its like all those democrats pushing Fannie and Freddie to make home loans to people who can't pay them back. Of course Fannie and Frddie drowned in debt. Nobody told the demos that the point of making a loan is that it should be paid back. Of course now that they drowned and Joe Sixpack has to pay for all those bad demo loans the demos are blaming 'Wall Street Greed". I guess those greedy Wall Street types only would give a loan to do that most reprehensable of things, make money.

Its like that.

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Stubborn people die. It's tragic, but they can't say they didn't get warning (or more correct, they can't speak at all).

What's left of Ike might now be coming my way. It hit Iceland with 250 mm of rain in 24 hours last week. But I don't know what happened to it after that, there's nothing on the weather report. It has been windy and rainy the last days, but nothing unusual for the season.

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The certain death warning for NOLA and Gustav. I just don't understand how anyone who lived in the town famous for being destroyed and home of the worst one-off natural disaster death toll in American history would decide to tough it out after all the bad storms we've had recently.


Ike had a certain death quote also.

No doubt these people should have left when the warnings came out, but I am sure many of them left for Rita where it was heading on the same early path, and then it turned more north from the Galveston/Bolivar peninsula area.

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"Life-threatening inundation likely!" weather service forecasters warned in an official statement to Galveston Island residents living beyond the seawall. "All neighborhoods. . .and possibly entire coastal communities . . .will be inundated during the period of peak storm tide. Persons not heeding evacuation orders in single family one- or two-story homes will face certain death."


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My point was not really that people died. Its that very few really realize it. They hear 61 deaths and think "Well, that could have been worse", but since the media isn't around to tell them, they don't know that it was actually A LOT worse.

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That, and it's just Texas.

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It was a real nasty storm.

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Dfg, nice to see you again. How long have you been away?

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How many of these people didn't follow evacuation orders?


A lot, since they let looters run wild last time.

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re:looters

looters were caught breaking into the home of one of my paralegals who was under the mandatory evac order. sheer luck that they were caught by a patrol.

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If you're talking about a comparison with New Orleans, it was nothing by comparison.

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