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From the Canberra Times... (I have no idea if this publication is worth a damn. But outside analysis is interesting.)

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Is Palin losing her shine?
29/09/2008 4:03:00 PM

She arrived in a blaze of glory and at a stroke injected new life into John McCain's presidential election campaign like a dose of political viagra.

But one month after Sarah Palin was unveiled as the shock Republican vice-presidential pick, the surge of populist momentum provided by the Alaskan governor's elevation to national politics is waning, analysts say.

On Thursday, the photogenic 44-year-old mother-of-five faces the biggest test of her campaign so far when she goes head-to-head in a debate with her Democratic opposite number, the vastly experienced Senator Joseph Biden.

The showdown comes hard on the heels of a faltering performance in a prime-time television interview with CBS anchor Katie Couric last week, and at a time when even conservative commentators are questioning her credentials.

Professor Jack Citrin, professor of political science at the University of California Berkeley, said Palin had been remarkably successful in "mobilising and energising" support since her appointment, but interest was now cooling.

"She was an interesting new face in a kind of politics where celebrity, status and media attention is important," Citrin told AFP.

"Her views and self-presentation appeal to a component of the Republican Party coalition that were not so enthused about McCain.

"But the focus has turned now to figure out what she really knows and what she doesn't know, especially in the context of an economic crisis where people are anxious and alarmed," he said referring to the Wall Street meltdown.

Palin's interview with Couric -- only one of three the McCain campaign has granted to media since her unveiling -- reinforced scepticism surrounding the candidate's ability.

As well as stating -- without explaining how -- that Alaska's proximity to Russia had given her useful foreign policy experience, she said US forces had secured "victory" in Iraq, a bolder assertion than even McCain has offered.

Republican strategist Tony Fabrizio told Politico.com that Palin's interview was cause for concern. "You can't continue to have interviews like that and not take on water," he told the website.

The performance also drew a withering review from prominent pro-Republican columnist Kathleen Parker, who wrote in the National Review that Palin was now such an embarrassment to the party that she should step down.

"Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson (ABC News), Sean Hannity (Fox News) and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League," Parker said.


"As we've seen and heard more from John McCain's running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem," she added.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp survey last week suggested that 49 per cent of voters believe Palin lacks the leadership qualities required in a president.

However, for some analysts, Palin's limited experience in foreign affairs is unlikely to affect her support among the rank-and-file Republican base, which responds to her staunchly conservative views on abortion, guns and religion.

"The party base doesn't care about foreign policy, so it should not be too much of a concern," said Sherry Be***** Jeffe, a political analyst at the University of Southern California. "But the media love affair is over."

And Jeffe said she believed it is doubtful that Palin may be able to attract undecided voters or former women supporters of defeated Democratic hopeful Hillary Clinton.

"There's no question she's injected the Republicans with an enthusiasm that John McCain could not," Jeffe said.

"Having said that, she hasn't been able to reach out to Hillary voters in any circumstance. And I think she's probably caused some of the independents and undecideds to think twice about her in the past couple of weeks.

"The polls now indicate that a majority don't think she's ready to be President. And that's not helpful."

Citrin meanwhile said McCain's advanced age -- at 72 he would be the oldest man ever elected to a first term as president -- meant more attention than normal was being paid to Palin's level of experience.

"Let's face it, you really don't need to know that much to be vice-president," Citrin said. "But when the president is a 72-year-old man the stakes are higher than they normally would be."

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She is more qualified than Obama and we shouldn't be talking about her anyway but that is the only way the liberal media can find to cover up the fact that John McCain is a war hero and Obama is a Muslim mosque organizer anyway.

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Who cares about views from the bottom of the world?

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Who cares about views from the bottom of the world?


You can see up her skirt.

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I don't thin she ever had a shine for intelligent people.

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We're now up to four interviews. Papa McCain took little Sarah by the hand and marched her right back to do a second interview with Katie Couric. Papa McCain didn't help much by sitting at her side, coaching her, and by saying the question by a constituant was "Gotcha Journalism." Isn't a prime component of "Gotcha Journalism" a question by a journalist??

Billy Kristol had the best advice so far given to the GOP. Stop over coaching Palin. Let Palin be Palin. Her self-confidence is being rattled by all the bad advice she's being given by professional politicos.

God knows, I have no use for Palin, but even I know she's a better candidate than the stumbling idiot the GOP has turned her into.

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the fact that John McCain is a war hero

Because he became a POW and survived? And then claimed that made him a hero?
Is that what it takes to be a hero? And is that a qualification to be presidential material? JFK got away with it, but it should not be a consideration.

Eight years ago I might have voted for McCain.

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and Obama is a Muslim mosque organizer anyway.

Because of the color of his skin, and he is slim?

Don't lower yourself to the level of Muslim extremist. Which is not the same as Muslim, anyway.

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Originally posted by Jaybe

Because he became a POW and survived? And then claimed that made him a hero?
Is that what it takes to be a hero? And is that a qualification to be presidential material? JFK got away with it, but it should not be a consideration.

Eight years ago I might have voted for McCain.


Because of the color of his skin, and he is slim?

Don't lower yourself to the level of Muslim extremist. Which is not the same as Muslim, anyway.


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Originally posted by Jaybe

Because he became a POW and survived? And then claimed that made him a hero?
Is that what it takes to be a hero?


Also the fact he remained in Vietnam despite being offered early release. He wanted to prevent the enemy form getting a propaganda victory and spent several more years in prison hell to make sure it didn't happen, and to keep his men's morale up

Also the fact he actually went to war, unlike most other politicans at the time. He had connections through his dad but, like his son now, went to fight on the front lines anyway.

Maybe you should just stick to playing stupid Civ videogames all day and telling us in your sig exactly how you like to set up the difficulty settings. You're useful

No, you wouldn't understand courage. Courage to you is playing with Aggressive AI.

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Palin's interview with Couric -- only one of three the McCain campaign has granted to media since her unveiling -- reinforced scepticism surrounding the candidate's ability.


She's granted more than three numbnuts. Those are just the major TV ones.

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... Sherry Be***** Jeffe ...


@ censored name.

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Also the fact he remained in Vietnam despite being offered early release. He wanted to prevent the enemy form getting a propaganda victory and spent several more years in prison hell to make sure it didn't happen, and to keep his men's morale up

Ram this story up my ass one more time and I'm going to stop liking it.

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Courage to you is betting on hockey.

I'm surrounded by people who wouldn't know the term if it roofied them.

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Courage to you is betting on hockey.

I'm surrounded by people who wouldn't know the term if it roofied them.


If courage and serving your country is so important, why did you support Bush over Kerry?

One more time Wiggy, ram it hard.

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@ censored name.


The real name is just as funny, if not more: B-e-b-i-t-c-h

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If courage and serving your country is so important, why did you support Bush over Kerry?

One more time Wiggy, ram it hard.


Because Kerry was incompetent. But I never went around making fun of him for mentioning his war experience or claiming he wasn't a war hero. Those who did had some basis (e.g. he threw away his medals and maybe fabricated some things). No one simply made fun of military service, not like we're seeing here. I hope your balls fall off.

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Originally posted by Wiglaf


Because Kerry was incompetent. But I never went around making fun of him for mentioning his war experience or claiming he wasn't a war hero. Those who did had some basis (e.g. he threw away his medals and maybe fabricated some things). No one simply made fun of military service, not like we're seeing here. I hope your balls fall off.


Wigger please, Swift Boat **** was 100000x worse than what people say about McCain.

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The real name is just as funny, if not more: B-e-b-i-t-c-h


What else would it be with 5 *s.

Unfortunate name for a woman.


Re: McCain's service. I hope no one is making fun of it. But I have to agree, I don't think it'd be good to have an ex-POW as president. He seems temperamental, makes snap decisions - not someone I'd want as CINC.

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Originally posted by Wiglaf


Because Kerry was incompetent. But I never went around making fun of him for mentioning his war experience or claiming he wasn't a war hero. Those who did had some basis (e.g. he threw away his medals and maybe fabricated some things). No one simply made fun of military service, not like we're seeing here. I hope your balls fall off.

Okay, fine, re: Kerry.

What about Senator Saxby Chambliss and former Senator Max Cleland?

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Okay, fine, re: Kerry.

What about Senator Saxby Chambliss and former Senator Max Cleland?


Was just about to post that.

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What about them? What the hell? Are they hot?

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If the mugging of Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia is a fair indicator of what is to come, the fall elections will be ugly. Cleland, a decorated veteran and triple amputee, was attacked by his Republican opponent, Rep. Saxby Chambliss, "for breaking his oath to protect and defend the Constitution."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2002Jun19.html

Rove's machine convinced voters that a man who had given up 3 limbs in defense of his country didn't care about his country.

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Didn't know about that. Sounds awful though. So what?

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Ah, I see I misread your posts in the thread. Somewhere I got the notion that you were trashing Kerry's service.

Gomen.

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What else would it be with 5 *s.

Unfortunate name for a woman.



It really is. Sherry Bab-itch Jaffe is really a savvy political analyst here in L.A. I've been a fan of hers for years, & I've never been able to figure out if she's a Democrat, Republican, liberal or conservative. She's just brillant and insightful.

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I've never been able to figure out if she's a Democrat, Republican, liberal or conservative.



sounds like she has some really strong thought provoking opinions.

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude. At least it's an ethos.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jaybe

Because he became a POW and survived? And then claimed that made him a hero?
Is that what it takes to be a hero? And is that a qualification to be presidential material? JFK got away with it, but it should not be a consideration.

Eight years ago I might have voted for McCain.


Because of the color of his skin, and he is slim?

Don't lower yourself to the level of Muslim extremist. Which is not the same as Muslim, anyway.


You, sir, have been trolled.

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