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DirtyMartini
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I'm sure there's already a thread about this, but it's late and I can't sleep...

I watched the opening sketch from last nights SNL on the NBC website. A bunch of the comments noted that the sketch didn't really deviate much from reality. Finding this hard to believe I started watching the actual Palin interview with Couric on the CBS website. I could only get through about 3 minutes before I had to quit watching. You see, I can't watch people embarrass themselves like that -- too painful. Honestly, the SNL sketch probably presents a more favorable image of Palin than the actual interview. Anybody care to defend Palin's performance?

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Anybody care to defend Palin's performance?



no

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You know... if they made a game show called: "Who wants to be Vice President?" or some sort of reality show, I'm sure at least one of the contestants chosen would be better than Palin .

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Obama wouldn't be. That's right. He's running for prez. I keep forgetting, since democrats compare him to Palin.

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Sloww, you just can not be serious about that. You may think that McCain would be better than Obama, that's a reasonable position. But after listening to this woman flounder and babble and spout inanity after inanity, you can not honestly think she'd be a better President than Obama.

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I didn't say that, eyes. I SAID, Obama wouldn't be a better VP. It's a fore-gone conclusion he wouldn't be a better president.

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Obama would be a terrible VP. He'd talk way too much and get his President into trouble.

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Not as much as his asshat wife.

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Watch it, Sloww. If she hears you, she'll terrorist fist-bump you all the way to Oklahoma.

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Sloww, the topic is Palin. Like most Republicans, you react to any perceived criticism by trying to shift the conversation, rather than addressing the actual question at hand.

Fact is, if any Democrat ran for either POTUS or VP with Palin's lack of credentials, the GOP would mock and attack that person incessantly.

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Fact is, if any Democrat ran for either POTUS or VP with Palin's lack of credentials, the GOP would mock and attack that person incessantly.


Which is exactly why Obama gets mocked incessantly.

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At least Obama doesn't believe that the universe was created after the domestication of the dog

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Which is exactly why Obama gets mocked incessantly.

And exactly why Palin deserves the same.

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Palin's fundamental problem in that interview was that she was unable to bring together all of the canned talking points to form a relevant or even coherent message. The problem with this isthat it clearly indicates that she hasn't given these issues a lot of thought. That is why comparisons between Obama and Palin don't hold water.

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And exactly why Palin deserves the same.


Not quite. If they were both running for VP they would deserve the same, but they are not.

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And Biden also. (especially after his last FDR/television comment) Heck why stop there, they should all be mocked incessantly. Obama and McCain sounded like a couple of 4 year olds during their debate.

If the VP debate is a diaster (high probability) Palin should claim motherly duties or something and withdraw. I could say the same of Biden. But I do hope that Palin goes after biden by saying that's why she's running, to keep hacks like him from being anywhere near power. THE VP debate is really her last chance at any credibility. If biden was smart he should not attack her but keep up the heat on McCain forcing her to defend him if she can. Attacking her may have a negative impact. Die hard dems would love it but those that aren't might start to consider sympathy into the equation. And since that should be your target audiance..........................

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All politicians should be and ARE mocked.

But come on, repubs, Palin is setting a new record in terms of mockability.

Dukkakis looks positively presidential by comparison.

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Yeah it's bad when people are tossing around the Dukkakis and the Quayle references.

I'm willing to let her use the debate to prop herself up or finish the descent into the abyss she's been sinking into. I'm really wondering how she got elected to anything. She must have some positive qualities.

The main problem is that McCain can't dump her, she must dump herself. Same goes for Biden but his ego won't let him even consider it.

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The main problem is that McCain can't dump her, she must dump herself. Same goes for Biden but his ego won't let him even consider it.


I think you're mildly delusional if you think Biden is remotely comparable to Palin in terms of liabilities. I do think he is one, but Palin is off the charts.

And whenever Palin is discussed ,the republicans want to compare her to Biden like it makes it better or Biden is almost as bad as she is...he's not.

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No, I agree that one is a worse liability than the other, but come on, Biden is pretty bad too. The only positive on him is that he's experienced (corrupted) He has a touch of charisma but that's easily negated everytime he opens his mouth. The only reason he's getting a pass from dems is because Palin is so much worse.

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The only positive on him is that he's experienced (corrupted)

You are referring to McCain?

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No, Biden comes off looking like a bigger weasel than McCain every time. (what it is actually is is anyones guess but I bet most would say Biden is the bigger one)

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No, Biden comes off looking like a bigger weasel than McCain every time. (what it is actually is is anyones guess but I bet most would say Biden is the bigger one)


Not sure I agree with you, particularly given both of them have been bullshitting up a storm the past few weeks.

The only difference between them is McCain has managed to convince republicans he's a maverick and immune to the corruption he has enjoyed for decades.

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No, I agree that one is a worse liability than the other, but come on, Biden is pretty bad too. The only positive on him is that he's experienced (corrupted) He has a touch of charisma but that's easily negated everytime he opens his mouth. The only reason he's getting a pass from dems is because Palin is so much worse.


Corrupted? I am no Biden fan, but part of his appeal is that he is one of the few Senators who's sole main asset is his house, like most homeowning Americans, so if he is corrupt, either he is hiding the money well, or isn't getting that big of a cut.

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I'm gonna have to agree (edit: with rah about Biden)-- I liked Biden a lot during the primaries (didn't really know much about him before that), but the more I learn, the less I like it.

His saving grace is that his weaknesses are typical policitican weaknesses -- pandering for votes, stealing ideas, being in the pocket of business, blah, blah, blah.

Palin's weakness is that she looks and sounds completely out of her league. She can't spout the talking points in a softball interview with Katie Couric -- she can't "say nothing" eloquently and she sounded totally frazzled and out of her depth. Her form of floundering is pretty unique in the realm of presidential elections -- most politicians lie and pander, but they can form logical sentences while they do it.

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I'd bet on hiding it better. WHile he says stupid things I have never considered him an idiot. He looks and sounds like a a a a a Politician. (or a used car salesman if that's not too insulting for salesman)

McCain still has that Grandfather, war hero image going for him. (not that it should mean anything in reality)
But he works it better. Even though a fight in the mud doesn't really help him, but that's the tried and true strat of the repugs so he'll go along with it. sigh

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I think McCain comes out looking like the bigger weasel if only because he gets more exposure and he's held to the "maverick" reformer standard. I don't think many people know or even really care who Biden is.

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