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Mar 2000
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In Austrian national elections, two far-right parties have gained a total of just under 30% of the vote as exit polls suggest. At the same time, both of the traditionally largest parties (social democrats, christian conservatives) have dropped below 30% individually, possibly perpetuating the grand coalition (imho).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7639805.stm
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Austria's Social Democrats look set to win the most votes in an early election but far right parties have made significant gains, projections show.
Preliminary estimates as polls closed at 1500 GMT showed the far right Freedom Party with 18% of the vote.
The Social Democrats led with 29%, while the conservative People's Party were at 25%.
The elections were called after an 18-month-old Social Democrat coalition with the People's Party collapsed.
Polling samples conducted for Austrian TV suggested the far right party, the Alliance for Austria's Future, also did well, winning 12% of the vote, with the Greens taking 10.5%.
For the first time in an EU country, 16 and 17-year-olds were able to vote. This bloc represented about 200,000 of the 6.3 million-strong electorate. |
Last edited by Ecthy on 28-09-2008 at 16:42
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
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At the same time, in Bavarian regional elections, the decades-long ruling party CSU (christian social union, state-wide sister of the national CDU or christian democrats) has dropped below 50% and reached a lifetime low of 43% this sunday. It thus loses an absolute majority it has held for decades and will either have to pick a coalition partner or lose government to a 4-party government of social democrats (19%), free democrats (pro-market) and "free voters", a joint movement of largely local forces. The newly-found Left party that had gained ground in German regional parliaments lately atfer its founding in 2007 has not made it into the Bavarian diet, failing the 5% threshold closely at a mere 4.7%.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...,580977,00.html
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What would you say has caused gains for the far-right?
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Emperor
of the Krauts
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Mar 2000
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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
What would you say has caused gains for the far-right? |
I have no idea, but out of my ass I just say a mix of populism and fearmongering. Maybe Wernazuma can tell us.
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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Can't be the grand coalition alone, since Austria has had those for decades before.
Let me take a guess: the conservative party failed to modernize. All over Europe the social democrats are struggling, but in most cases to the benefit of the conservatives or stronger left leaning parties. But then this approach is very generalizing, and a view from an insider would be most welcome.
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Emperor
Howling at the moon
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Aug 2000
time: 08:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Ecthy
In Austrian national elections, two far-right parties have gained a total of just under 30% of the vote as exit polls suggest. At the same time, both of the traditionally largest parties (social democrats, christian conservatives) have dropped below 30% individually, [/q] |
Landslide?
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Originally posted by BeBro
I have no idea, but out of my ass I just say a mix of populism and fearmongering. Maybe Wernazuma can tell us. |
Do far-right still hate teh Jews are have they moved on the Gypsies and Turks?
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Landslide? |
Both aspects of the result are unexpected in comparison to both the diet's composition before the election as well as latest polls. It's a landslide gain for the far right.
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Emperor
Howling at the moon
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Aug 2000
time: 08:09
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That's what you get when you give kids the vote. Deep down, they're all nazis.
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Belgium, land of plenty (corruption)
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Jan 2000
time: 09:09
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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
Do far-right still hate teh Jews are have they moved on the Gypsies and Turks? |
Not the Jews in particular, but just about all foreign people, whatever origin those people have.
Surprisingly Haider's BZÖ is relatively moderate. BZÖ is an offshoot of the FPÖ that Haider created in 2005 after intense intra-party disagreement. On top of that the conservaties were struggling with the FPÖ as well. FPÖ officials even openly discredited and laughed at them iirc. Haider made the best of a bad job and quit the party in favour of his new BZÖ which is equally populistic, but amazing as it may seem it is decidedly the lesser evil in Austria. Another surprising element is that in contrast to Le Pen in France, and the likes of Dewinter in Flanders Haider managed to reinvent himself. After his demise in 2005 (FPO left government in 2006 I believe) he was considered a political corpse. Somehow (I haven't followed Austrian politics that closely) he retained his charisma and rallied voters again.
More importantly I dispute Ecthy's term landslide. 30% is a lot, but remember that in '99 FPÖ single handedly gained 27% (thx wikipedia  ). In fact the two parties merely split the voters. Austria has an inherent extremist right base, so it doesn't come as much of a surprise.
It's possible Haider and BZÖ will make a comeback.
Current leader of FPÖ Heinz-Christian Strache has elevated xenophobism, populism and demagoguery to a new level out there. He learned from Haider and increased the hatespeech a notch.
That said, it's not a party anyone else would want to have a coalition with. Too extremist for everyone except BZÖ but they're not on good terms. Maybe the greens would be the alternative, and a good one I might add! 
Then again it's Austria, and I wouldn't hope too much for that...
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
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Anyway, looks like Bavaria will get a "normal" bourgeois government of christian conservatives and free democrats. Meanwhile, the "greatest columnist of all times" and former German secretary of state has called the free voters' alliance a far-right threat to the conservatives, comparable to the Austrian extremist parties. Good morning Mr Fischer.
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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Look, at least they have a country to speak of.
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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Yours will be gone soon, everyone knows this.
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Does Germany plan on annexing Belgium again? Third time is the charm as they say.
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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No need to, they've been dissolving themselves anyway.
Traianus, the 1999/2000 election result was also a landslide, you can't compare to that one. 2006 was normal.
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Deity
Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
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Apr 1999
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Etchy, what flavor 'far right' parties are these? The kind that like to spread the word in tanks or spend less on social programs?
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Emperor
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Mar 2000
time: 09:09
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No political party could seriously suggest spreading the word in tanks. These usually play on racist tendencies and attack immigrants and other minority groups.
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Traianvs
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King
Belgium, land of plenty (corruption)
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move it to 21 or 25 and not down to 16?!?
