Info needed please

[Rasputin]

Hi al lyou experts in civ 4 MP

Just wondering is it possible to have a nation on your Foriegn affairs list that you have not met. They are on a separate continent, need ocean going vessels to travel the distance, no one advanced to that tech yet.

So how do two tribes meet with out meeting??

Can anyone explain this to me please.

[The Capo]

I feel as if though you are referencing something in particular because obviously the answer to your question is that it is impossible. So what are you talking about?

[Rasputin]

You want specifics?

I was privvy to some rumours about a game that it occured in, I didnt think it was possible. But i no expert in it.

Perhaps it can be built into an EVENT or perhaps into the Script in the game itself , like Starting locations, perhaps an accidental oversight.

All accidental things.

Of course if any of these had occured in any game, I am sure that whomever it happened to would announce this.

So was wondering how it can be done.

Just to stop the rumours.

Someone out there will know how it is possible.

[Pitboss Korea]

Well I don't think its possible to have a country you have no contact with to be on your foreign advisors list because by virtue of them being on your foreign advisor list you DO, in fact, have contact with them.

But if you mean you never saw their units, your territory isn't touching and in fact it would be scientifically/physically impossible for any contact to have been made and despite these facts they are still on your contact list, well I don't know. Possibility of a Vassal situation? Maybe another country let their vassals go? If this is a scenario maybe the scenario maker screwed up, if this is a single-player game maybe the player popped into the world builder and accidentally put something somewhere it didn't belong. Other than that I dunno, a goold old fashioned computer screw up?

I thought you were referring to our diplogame and a "virtual" foreign advisor.

BTW Ras, come back and post dammit.

[Rasputin]

it all theoretical until the truth be known.

So know you and i are not the experts here CAPO i await the experts to lay waste to the rumours.

Then we can return to some good stuff.

[Pitboss Korea]

Raz, I absolutely mean no disrespect to you.

But I have NO IDEA what the hell you are talking about right now?

[CyberShy]

No, that's not possible.

[deity]

Sorry Raz, I have no idea how this can be done.

Do you have an example where it is done? Post the save.

[deity]

If you are talking about our Pitboss a few odd things might have occurred because someone started in the sea! I remember in Civ2 that I did a few scenarios that were odd like that - game corruption I guess. Don't know about Civ 4 though.

[The Capo]

Yeah Raz, I don't think anybody knows what you are talking about, so can you just tell us what you are referring to here?

That would help you get your answers, believe me.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by deity
If you are talking about our Pitboss a few odd things might have occurred because someone started in the sea! I remember in Civ2 that I did a few scenarios that were odd like that - game corruption I guess. Don't know about Civ 4 though.

It is also possible when doing custom maps. Like the mapmaker may have been placing everyone's starting units and such, and accidentally put a Viking unit next to an Arab unit, and then realized his mistake and deleted the mistake. But then those two civs are still considered to have met each other. It is possible the mapmaker forgot to fix that.

I've done something similar with many maps I've made.

[The Capo]

Yeah, that's what I said.

But I feel like, for some reason, Raz is talking about a specific incident that for whatever reason he isn't disclosing.

[OzzyKP]

I gave up trying to figure out Raz years ago.

[Rasputin]

Ok i know little about what causes these things.

but here are the facts.

1. Whilst forming some secret allliances i was given a list of interested civs who could join the allaince.
2. This list contained a civ on another continent.
3. I queried this and was told that no, they must be on our continent as theyhave made contact.
4. I checked the story threadand definatly Celts are not on our continent.
5. So i used this thread to find out if it possible.
6. It appears it was an accident, possible casued by the map maker, he was under a lot of pressure to make the map in time.
7. I believe now that the person involved should step forward and acknowledge this.

[The Capo]

Damn, cat out of bag.

Who is in this secret alliance Raz?

[Rasputin]

It never occured Capo as i was concerned with the off continent link.

[CyberShy]

It's very well possible that some civs knew each other from the beginning, like Ozzy said.
Civs that aren't supposed to know each other should just ignore each other in-game, don't open borders, don't exchange techs, etc.

There's nothing we can do about it, all we can do is restrain ourselves.

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by CyberShy
It's very well possible that some civs knew each other from the beginning, like Ozzy said.
Civs that aren't supposed to know each other should just ignore each other in-game, don't open borders, don't exchange techs, etc.

There's nothing we can do about it, all we can do is restrain ourselves.

I would have liked the two civs involved to have posted it in the org thread so everyone was aware of it.

but that is just me.

[The Capo]

Why would two civs have contact? That makes no sense. Why would you set it up like that?

[Rasputin]

ozzy said it above, accidental misakte when making map , palcing starting citys and starting units. once they met unless you rembember and go bsck a nd clear the Script of which civs met who, you stuck with it forever.

[The Capo]

Next questions; why is the map maker playing in the game? Why has another player seen the map in advance?