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Felch

	King Germantown, Maryland
	Sep 2001 time: 16:58

24-07-2008 20:12

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Diplomacy issue

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I can't find any List for Civ V (Are you guys slacking or something?) so I figured I'd make a thread.

Is there any way to delay diplomacy until later in the turn? Sometimes I get an offer, such as joining somebody in a war, or abandoning deals with somebody else, and I have trouble remembering all the details of the situation. I'd like it if I could get an offer from the AI, minimize it, look around at my situation, and then make a decision. That way I could look and see how the facts line up before I dive into some catastrophe. Anybody else feel the same way, or am I just too much of a stoner to keep playing this?

rah

	Co-Owner/ Administrator (Reasonable One) Lord of the Ferrets
	Nov 1999 time: 15:58

24-07-2008 21:37

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you can mouse over the civs in the lower right or some say you can use one of the function keys to go to the diplomacy screen, (never done that but everyone else says it works)
But the game won't advance till you give your answer.

I do wish that all request/demands on a turn would pop up together.

The other night i had one where an ai asked me to change a civic. Since it was one I was going to change to anyway, I said sure and revolted. I thought that when you agreed to a demand, they couldn't DOW you for 10 turns, but the next turn the civ DOWed me.
I guess asking to change civics or religion is not considered a demand.

snoopy369

	Technical Assistant Of the Peanuts Gallery
	Apr 2004 time: 15:58

25-07-2008 00:17

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It's not a trade. I believe you get the auto-peace treaty when you trade something, but not when you just change civics or whatever.

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 16:58

30-07-2008 15:49

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"It's not a demand! It's an invitation!" Sounds like bullies everywhere, covering their belligerancy by pretending it's "for your own good."

Unimatrix11

	Prince
	Nov 2005 time: 21:58

30-07-2008 16:21

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Sounds like ´Saddam must leave the country within 48 hours - if he doesnt, we gonna attack... and just to clarify: if he does, we gonna march in...´

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 16:58

30-07-2008 16:27

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Bullies sometimes do not recognize that is what they are. In the game however, the look on their faces shows they know how nasty they are being.

rah

	Co-Owner/ Administrator (Reasonable One) Lord of the Ferrets
	Nov 1999 time: 15:58

30-07-2008 16:29

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Don't you get the auto peace if he demands 400 gold and you give it to him. (wouldn't know since I never accept that one)

If you do, I see no difference between that and changing civics because they requested it, since you get a negative diplo modifier for refusing either.

snoopy369

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	Apr 2004 time: 15:58

30-07-2008 17:12

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Yes, you do. One is a trade, one is not, though ... I think that's the difference in theory. (You can't cancel a trade deal for 10 turns, so you get a peace treaty for 10 turns to prevent you from canceling it). Admittedly you can't really cancel a 400 gold gift either, but it's the theory that matters

rah

	Co-Owner/ Administrator (Reasonable One) Lord of the Ferrets
	Nov 1999 time: 15:58

30-07-2008 18:43

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I look at it since I'm taking a negative hit if I refuse, I should get something if I accept. Especially since every AI does it in order to hurt your dip rating.

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 16:58

07-08-2008 16:59

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Note that if you make demands the AI considers undoable, you do not take a diplo hit relative the demandee. It does seem as tho the AIs are deliberately ruining your diplomatic relations, as rah indicates. Pretty sophisticated programming if the AI actually has such goals. I think the program makes the AI behave like four-year-olds; they want what you have and they don't. Silly, really, but 4-year-olds can throw serious tantrums when told "No."

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