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King
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Dec 2006
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This thread to be used exclusively for the formal posting of tech trades. This is so it can be tracked. Declaring the trade of either "TECH" or "TECH VOUCHERS" in this thread is mandatory.
As agreed upon before the game, every civ starts the game with 15 TECH VOUCHERS.
TECH VOUCHER: The right to trade/give a single tech. Receving tech does not affect your voucher count.
Note: Vouchers can be traded as a commodity, however it must be posted here just like an actual tech trade. This is for ease of tracking. Only the person trading away a voucher is required to post, and must declare who is receving the voucher, and how many they have remaining.
Also note: When one civ trades a tech in exchange for a tech, both players must post to this thread. They would post what they traded, but are not required to post who it was to, or what they got in exchange. Include how many vouchers you have remaining after the trade.
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Vouchers used:
[Check the last update in the thread as being posted by CyberShy]
Last edited by CyberShy on 07-10-2008 at 18:34
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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EXAMPLE
Traded Alphabet. 14 vouchers remaining.
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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EXAMPLE
Traded 2 vouchers to Russians. 12 vouchers remaining.
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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Sorry to bring more overhead into the game, but with 18 players playing over a period of 2 years I felt it would be helpful to track it this way.
This allows us to not only keep each other honest, but also a reference for ourselfs as to how many vouchers we have left.
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Chieftain
Washington
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May 2008
time: 13:30
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I understand the need for tracking but please clarify posts required. From my reading.
If I stated "military tradition" traded, 12 trade vouchers unused" ... would that be correct?
If I stated "1 voucher traded to Mayans, 11 trade vouchers unused" ... would that be correct?
I would rather not state which civ received the actual tech but I see the need to state if vouchers are recieved. Is the above understanding of what posts are required correct?
Last edited by Pitboss America on 13-07-2008 at 15:48
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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Vikings, the 15 tech trade rule was established prior to the game starting.
You are expected to adhere to it, and for the sake of tracking, posting trades in this thread.
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Why do you have to report the tech that you traded? |
This allows for verification of the tech trade. At least that was the reason for stating the tech when we used a tech trade cap last time.
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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bump
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I think it's important to log the tech trade, but I'm afraid that it'll be impossible to enforce such a rule, certainly if some civs aren't willing to do it.....
We could also setup a new mail-address to which the actual deals can be mailed. Then we can check if all players followed the rules after the game has finished.
We can give a 1 point penalty on the final diplogamescorelist for everytime a civ failed to report correctly.
That way tech trading is completely hidden but we can enforce the rules.
(in the end a civ can gain 4x18 points at most (when it wins every category), getting 5 penalty points for failing to report 5 techs or trading 5 techs too many can make a difference)
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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quote:
I'm afraid that it'll be impossible to enforce such a rule, certainly if some civs aren't willing to do it..... |
Not only is it enforceable, it is expected. This was one of the few rules we spelled out in black and white before the game started.
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We can give a 1 point penalty on the final diplogamescorelist for everytime a civ failed to report correctly. |
If we really expect people to follow this rule then it should be 5 points. One point is a hand slap and almost implies that it is ok to break the rule if you are alright with a slight penalty.
From your wording I am assuming you stand behind posting of trades as opposed to everyone keeping their own running tally?
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Prince
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May 2008
time: 03:30
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Its hard to say what to do. I wouldn't cheat at all, but I also wouldn't win at all so it doesn't matter enough for me TO cheat. That can't be said for other people, and I know there are people out there who HAVE suggested cheating to me before in other games (I won't name names, but they know who they are), so I'm not going to sit here and say it won't happen.
But it shouldn't happen, there's no reason for anyone to cheat in a game that is supposed to be fun. I don't know what to tell you guys, I'd rather not have to report what I am doing to you all the time, much less tell you the exact techs I'm trading. But I'll do it if it is the only way to prevent cheating.
Although I don't think telling you what the tech was is that important, at least not publicly. And as I've said before over other issues, if you are also players in the game I don't think there is a reason to tell you at all. We need an objective person.
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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Your a real piece of work Raz. Did you sniff magic markers as a child?
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Prince
Kyoto, Japan
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May 2008
time: 03:30
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corect me if i'm wrong but the point of the game is to have fun not win right? if this is so then taking off points at the end doesn't mean a dam thing. there has to be a better way to enforce the rule.
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King
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Dec 2006
time: 13:30
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No personal attack, just a question, which you confirmed to be true, not that it comes as a surprise, at all.
Out of sheer curiosity, I looked up your profile here on Apoly.
Two shocking things...
First of all, you appear to be an adult! With a beard no less! No offense, but your use of logic (or rather lack thereof) and disregard for factual accuracy convinced me you were MUCH younger.
Secondly, it says you are a trainer. Now I HAVE to ask, what on earth do you train people to do?
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Pitboss Vikings
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King
Razolia
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May 2008
time: 04:30
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