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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Thanks for moving it.
I am using Warlords and have tried to download all the patches i can find for it.
Thanks for the help
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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What sort of install did you have - CD/DVD or Steam or Direct2Drive?
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Install, as in civ install? I installed with a CD
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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What version of Warlords do you have now - this is shown on the Advanced portion of the main menu.
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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build version: 2.1.3.0
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Wait, isn't the latest patch 2.08?? maybe that's why I can't install the patch...
Well if that's the case I feel a little dumb. But then what do i do about the flickering and tearing of the graphics?
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
main driver: igdumdx32.dll
I just updated the driver a few days ago
286mb memory onboard i think
Last edited by Ibcabob on 28-05-2008 at 21:09
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Lol, thanks no truoble dating.
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Ibcabob
Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
main driver: igdumdx32.dll
I just updated the driver a few days ago
286mb memory onboard i think |
That could be your problem  (also when you say 286MB memory, do you mean total system memory, or memory available to the GPU?)
That's not a discrete graphics card but an integrated video chipset that does not entirely support Civ4. It is enough for Civ4 to agree to run, but it uses software to emulate certain things that are supposed to be handled by hardware - which means that if your CPU isn't very, very good, it isn't going to be adequate.
I don't know if you're going to be able to run this all that well, particularly at any reasonably high settings. Try turning settings all the way down, turn off animations, definitely turn off AntiAliasing (AA)... maybe this will fix it  If you have a desktop, then upgrade to a discrete video card (ATI/NVIDIA). If not, you may not have much of a choice... If I remember that is a desktop set, though, so that could be good news
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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286mb on the card i think i have 2gb of ram and i have tried all resolutions and graphics settings maybe i should call the support number on the 2k site.
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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It's not a 'card', for sure, because Intel doesn't make cards. It's a part of your system, integrated, which does not generally have its own discrete memory - it's usually 'shared' memory, using your normal system memory.
Like I said - you may not ever be able to get Civ to run well. It's a matter of hardware; Intel GMA does not support hardware T&S, but rather does it via software emulation, which is NOT good for performance, and is not perfect anyway - it may not behave well with DirectX.
In the short term, what you can do is:
1. Turn off animations and antialiasing
2. Allocate as much memory as possible to your graphics card.
3. Make sure you have updated to the latest version of DirectX - do that by downloading the current updater and running it, even if it appears you have the latest version.
In the scheme of things, though, getting a discrete graphics card is the best solution, by far. Does your system have an AGP or a PCI-x16 (PCI Express) slot?`
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Hmm not sure. How do I check if I have a slot
and where could I download the directx downloader
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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DirectX can be downloaded from Microsoft, or gamesforwindows.com
If you know your make+model of computer, just post them here or google them to see what slots it comes with. Otherwise...
The AGP or PCI-X slot is a slot at the top of your PCI slots that is not quite the same size as them and usually a bit further away from the end of the case (so, 'forwards' towards the front of the case). It usually has plastic locking side levers (whereas normal PCI or PCI-x1 do not). It won't have anything in it (unless you have a video card, which you presumably don't).
AGP is the most likely unless you have a computer <2 years old. If you bought it around 2 years ago, it could go either way. If it's <1.5 years old, it is probably PCI express. However, you'd have to know for sure, as they are not cross compatible
AGP port is the top port in this picture (usually brown, but this varies):
PCIEx16:
They are different, but it can be hard to tell which ... pay close attention to the size of the 'smaller' part versus the 'larger' part. In theory the board will be inscribed with PCIE or AGP, as these pics are, but this is not always true.
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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I bought my computer less than a week ago. The name of it is V50136 - Optima Intel Core 2 Duo . I think, I bought it on shopnbc. So from what you say I probably do have a slot. So what does something like this cost for a good one and a decent one. And which would you suguest
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Technical Assistant
Of the Peanuts Gallery
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Apr 2004
time: 19:54
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Hmmm, I don't actually see much in the way of information on that model as it looks to be a shopNBC specific model. I'd guess it has PCIEx16 but I wouldn't guarantee it.
You could get anywhere from $50 to $150 depending on how 'decent' you wanted. I haven't priced them in a while but IIRC either an 8600GT (nvidia) or an ATI 2400 (don't recall which version) is probably best price-performance.
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I just bought a new one last week Snoopy, Nvidia (BFG) 9600 which if I understand the reviews correctly is basically a repackaged 8800. But anyway it ran me about $170 on sale at BestBuy. Runs CIV like a dream. Of course you DO need a PCI express slot which I wonder if laptops would have.
Wodan
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Deity
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Dec 2003
time: 01:54
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8800GT is the best, I think you an get a decent one quite cheaply nowadays
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Deity
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Dec 2003
time: 01:54
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9600 =| 8800GT. I'll let Aeson spend the time to explain it though.
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Settler
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May 2008
time: 01:54
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Thanks everyone for all the help.
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