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TCO
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I told you so, told you so, told you so. Help yourself to an AD-FREE life


way too much wacked business model weirdness.

Velociryx
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I'd not count those chickens just yet. We're still here.

-=Vel=-

TCO
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Got spare money?


give me a break. you're like a cold fusionist.

Velociryx
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Everybody's entitled to their opinions, good sir, and that includes you.

We'll see.

-=Vel=-

TCO
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It's been too long already. I was right. Admit it.

Velociryx
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I was not aware that we were on a timetable.

Who set this timetable? And when?

(and when was somebody gonna tell me!?)

-=Vel=-

Solver
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Got spare money?


Admit it TCO, you just like being a naysayer And you're probably hoping this fails so you can say you were right.

TCO
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I'm already proved right. It's not that I want him to fail. It's that he is so obvious about his silliness. He did not even listen to the other fellows who advised on othjer game development experiences. ANd he had all kinds of silliness about book tie-ins and the like.

Velociryx
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Let's see now....let me make sure I'm following the argument.

You are proved right because:

* We haven't produced a game according to your timetable (point of clarification if you please...is it yours, specifically, or ANY arbitrary timetable)

* We have gone about our business a bit differently than you would have

* We are still here, and still making progress, long after you figured we would have died out

Intriguing.

-=Vel=-

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You will be proven right if and when there is no one working on this and the idea gets abandoned. And I've been saying since day one that won't happen.

TCO
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there's no activity. this place is a GRAVEYARD

Solver
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Then I must congratulate you on being more informed than the project's leader, as well as the project's art & programming guys.

And yeah, I remember the stuff you posted in this forum back when it all started.

Velociryx
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Indeed.

Perhaps we should pack it in, Solver...I had no idea it was a graveyard.

Does that make us...Zombies?

-=Vel=-

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Suffering from ads?


At best. Or necrophiliacs at worst

Velociryx
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Nahhh. Something tells me we'll be just fine.



-=Vel=-

TCO
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Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution


Vel lives in a dream world. Doesn't want to admit things to himself or others.

Solver
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And somehow he has much more to show for it than you do.

TCO
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Suffering from ads?


grr

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Ya know, time will tell

TCO
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Tired of ads?


you are fast.

hexagonian
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quote:
Originally posted by TCO
ANd he had all kinds of silliness about book tie-ins and the like.

Hmmmm...
Two novels done, the third about 70% done, a series of short story prequels done...public release of all written works when the last novel is finished.

...who gives a rat's @ss what you think, loserboy.

TCO
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did he sell the books to publishers or self-publish?

Velociryx
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A dream world? Yes. I think that's fair...just not in the way you mean it.

As to the books...why on earth would I want to play the publisher's game? Surrender the rights to my work for a measley 6-8%? Meh...no thanks. There are better ways.

At any rate...we'll find out, won't we?

-=Vel=-

(actually, my suspicion is this: TCO's game is that if we quit, he'll crow about being right from the start, and if we succeed, he'll wink and nod and tell everyone that it was only by virtue of his constant goading...that it was all part of some master plan....)

TCO
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No. You've payed little attention to me, so if it succeeds, it won't be from me. It would be from learning your lesson the hard way. Sure, if you quit I'll have been right. But this was not just about succeeding or failing. The odds were always against you. The issue with you is that even given that, you want to do fight with hands tied behind the back. That's lunacy and silliness.

And on the self-publishing. THat's a fools errand and is costing you dearly. And it's not because you want more of the take that you do it, but because it's very competetive to get published and you can't do it so far. You need to be honest with yourself, Vel.

Dale
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Vel, Solver, Hex:

Stop feeding the troll! I've told you before.

Velociryx
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I know Dale...I know....it's just....so....hard....to.....resist!

Now, as to the "costing us dearly" part...so far, that has not been my experience.

It (our publishing model) is what's making it possible to pay a coder.

I'd have to call that a success, and based on that success, we'll continue on with the current model, thanks.



-=Vel=-

TCO
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why don't you code it yourself? Oh...you're a fluffy idea guy.

TCO
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Oh...and if you are going to make claims that your publishing is moneymaking, I'm going to demand proof. And if you think that is nosy, tough. because you brought it up.

Velociryx
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Actually, you brought it up, but nice try. And the answer is the same now as it has been all the other times you've asked the question.

-=Vel=-

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