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Sparrowhawk

	Emperor Canada CST
	Apr 1999 time: 01:55

03-07-2004 21:06

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AI Traits

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I have summarized the AI traits below:

code:
 
    
     
      Civilization 
      Rational/Aggressive 
      Civilized/Militaristic 
      Perfectionist/Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Romans 
      - 
      Civilized 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Russians 
      Aggressive 
      Militaristic 
      - 
     

    
     
      Celts 
      Rational 
      - 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Babylonians 
      Rational 
      Civilized 
      Perfectionist 
     

    
     
      Zulus 
      Aggressive 
      - 
      - 
     

    
     
      Japanese 
      Aggressive 
      Militaristic 
      Expansionist 
    

    
     
      German 
      Aggressive 
      Civilized 
      Perfectionist 
     

    
     
      French 
      Aggressive 
      Civilized 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Vikings 
      Aggressive 
      - 
      Expansionist 
    

   
     
      Egyptian 
      - 
      Civilized 
      - 
     

    
     
      Aztecs 
      - 
      Civilized 
      Perfectionist 
     

    
     
      Spanish 
      Rational 
      Militaristic 
      Expansionist 
    

   
     
      American 
      Rational 
      Civilized 
      - 
     

    
     
      Chinese 
      - 
      Civilized 
      - 
     

    
     
      Persian 
      - 
      - 
      Perfectionist 
    

   
     
      Greek 
      - 
      Militaristic 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      English 
      - 
      - 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Carthaginians 
      - 
      Militaristic 
      - 
    

   
     
      Indian 
      Rational 
      - 
      Perfectionist 
     

    
     
      Mongols 
      Aggressive 
      Militaristic 
      Expansionist 
     

    
     
      Sioux 
      - 
      - 
      -

What I am curious about is what is the thought on how this applies to the game? I think we all know that the Agressive/Militaristic Civs are more likely to declare war and the Rational/Civilized/Perfectionist civs are more likely to build large well developed cities, but how does each trait influence the individual AI civs? (City production for instance).

Anyone with insight care to post?

* Sparrowhawk

Elephant

	Prince Phila PA
	Aug 2002 time: 02:55

04-07-2004 19:12

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There are several columns in RULES.TXT that specify default "desirability" values for each tech along with modifiers for more "civilized" and more "militaristic" civs. This affects what techs they choose to research themselves, as well as how much they value a tech you offer in trade or ask to buy.

My feeling is that the first column has to do with general military and diplomatic decisions, the second with tech issues, and the third with issues of resource allocation between exploration/expansion and city buildup.

Nice color scheme, BTW.

Bloody Monk

	King austin, tx
	May 2001 time: 01:55
	HOF entries: 2

06-07-2004 04:21

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And the varied characteristics of the different civs also predispose them to certain kinds of scrolls at the beginning of the game. The Scouse Gits posted some very interesting material on this, some of which is probably in the Great Library.

Monk

Andemagne

	King Rovaniemi, Lappland
	Dec 1999 time: 09:55

06-07-2004 09:33 | www

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Great Work with that Table, Sparrowhawk.

debeest

	Prince
	May 2000 time: 23:55
	HOF entries: 1

06-07-2004 16:35

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IIRC, the Scouse Gits' commentary in the GL on which civs are prone to starting with which techs is named "A is for alphabet."

Scouse Gits

	Emperor Liverpool, United Kingdom
	Nov 1999 time: 07:55
	HOF entries: 1

15-07-2004 07:51 | www

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yup -- something like 3000 starts analysed - A is for Alphabet is the correct title

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jez9999

	Settler
	Aug 2006 time: 07:55

31-08-2008 22:29

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I know I'm replying to a very old post here, but anyway:

The 3 civs that stick out to me in Civ2 are:
- Celts: For some reason, always seem to build a HUGE empire. It's usually double the size of mine, with cities quickly reaching size 12+. Don't know how this is.
- Sioux: Much more peaceful than the others. They're rarely picked (usually Mongols or Indians, sadly), and tend to die easily.
- Mongols: Tend to be more aggressive than the others. Even if you're generous, they'll tend to attack. Somewhat like the Vikings, too.

The biggest weird thing for me is the Celts and their enormous empires, though. I dunno why, maybe they get some kind of special bonus that lets them expand quickly? They do this even if they don't have Pyramids.

Peaster

	Prince Florida
	Jul 2003 time: 02:55
	HOF entries: 1

10-09-2008 23:59 | www

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I haven' t noticed that about the Celts [but it may be true, of course]. Sparrowhawk's original question seems interesting and not totally answered. Presumably these characteristics were included for a reason, and they should also affect the human player's strategy somehow. But how ?

Speaking for myself, I ignore them. They have no effect on how I plan my conquests. Also, I've read most of the game logs from about 90 GOTMs at CFC, and don't recall any player claiming to use them either. [Ignoring random complaints about the dam**d aggressive Mongols, etc]

Just speculating - these may affect AI diplomacy... eg the success rate at extracting tribute, provoking war, or restoring peace. Even so, I'm not sure how knowing those probabilities would affect my decisions in a game.

Or... maybe these traits are mainly useful for scenario designers?

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