August 16, 2005, 23:57
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It's A Good Place To Go
Apolyton has been recognized in the media again, and this time it's in education's corner. From the full news report here on ACS:
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It's a good place to go. This is the overly simplistic but direct advice that one senior researcher at National Research Council Canada (NRCC) offers to educators about Apolyton Civilization Site. An essay originally published on his website that makes this learned recommendation is now an article appearing in the latest issue of Innovate journal, a bi-monthly digital publication of The Fischler School of Education and Human Services at Nova Southeastern University.
In Downes' own words, "[g]ames like Civilization III are attracting increasing attention in the educational community for their potential to support learning. [..] [E]ducators who seek to understand gaming technology -— and to incorporate customized forms of such technology in their teaching -— will find the Apolyton [w]ebsite worthy of exploration. [..] [E]ducators who visit [Apolyton] will discover information and resources that can support their own experiments with gaming technology as an instructional tool". [..]
Downes contends that "[w]hat sites like Apolyton suggest... is that instead of embedding a game into learning, it is possible to embed learning into a game. By selecting an already popular and widely customizable game such as Civilization, instructors can incorporate elements from many disciplines into a format their students already spend their days playing".
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Links to where you can read the entire article by Mr. Downes are provided above.
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Last edited by DanQ; August 17, 2005 at 00:05.
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August 17, 2005, 00:06
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*Edit. I see that dan preemptively fixed the link while I was cross-posting...
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Good article! 
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August 17, 2005, 02:19
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You mean you were DanSed by DanQ? 
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August 17, 2005, 02:24
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I can view the essay but not the article. 
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I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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August 17, 2005, 02:43
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Very cool. 
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August 17, 2005, 02:43
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Ack, now this site apparantly is seen as a good site for educational purposes I don't want to be here anymore 
We should post more offensive things here
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August 17, 2005, 04:03
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Learn when you play games. What more could a person ask for? 
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August 17, 2005, 09:54
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Where was this when I was going to school. I would love to have gotten course credits for playing civ
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August 17, 2005, 10:04
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What are you whining about, you get payed (a lot) to be here!! 
School would have been a lot more fun though, I give you that.
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August 17, 2005, 10:26
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August 17, 2005, 10:41
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Does Mr Downes post here?
I have serious doubts about using Civ as an educational tool. There has to be a more time-efficient way to teach scientific progression, or geopolitics. Maybe there would be some use in history lessons for showing the situation which some country or other found itself in, but it's way too simplified to do properly, even with an accurate, detailed scenario.
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Originally posted by Ming
Do people really think we get paid for our work here?
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No, alva was suggesting that you were paid for your time here. By your employer.
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August 17, 2005, 11:38
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I was. 
I just worded it poorly.
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Originally Posted by IW
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There has to be a more time-efficient way to teach scientific progression, or geopolitics.
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True but I'm sure it can have a real possitive effect when it comes to sparking interest.
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August 17, 2005, 12:12
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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
No, alva was suggesting that you were paid for your time here. By your employer.
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I spend far more time on Apolyton when I'm at home than when I'm at work Unless we have absolutely nothing to do at work, I'm usually only looking at Apolyton for a minute here or there between meetings.
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August 17, 2005, 12:29
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Did he mention anything about how fantastic and educational the OT is?
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August 17, 2005, 12:41
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Originally posted by CyberShy
Ack, now this site apparantly is seen as a good site for educational purposes I don't want to be here anymore
We should post more offensive things here
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"Apolyton - It´s god clean fun. And it´s educational!"
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August 17, 2005, 13:14
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Looks like DanQ is gonna have to spend some time setting up a new section at Apolyton for educators and students to attract a new crowd...
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August 17, 2005, 14:00
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Originally posted by CyberShy
Ack, now this site apparantly is seen as a good site for educational purposes I don't want to be here anymore
We should post more offensive things here
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I second the motion
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August 17, 2005, 14:02
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The answer is that you are paid in Power. Where else can you go to misuse power over tens of thousands of internet users?
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August 17, 2005, 14:06
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Originally posted by H Tower
The answer is that you are paid in Power. Where else can you go to misuse power over tens of thousands of internet users?
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Hell, I can abuse millions of internet users just by my media recommendations for obnoxious ads
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August 17, 2005, 15:45
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that Snicker's ad where they throw the bars at the deer isn't yours is it? Because that one sucks
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August 17, 2005, 16:18
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Originally posted by Ming
Where was this when I was going to school. I would love to have gotten course credits for playing civ
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Here here!
Kids got it WAAAAAy to easy today
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August 17, 2005, 16:20
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The web version of the article doesn't have the proviso included in the original: "Don't enter Off Topic: none of the above is true there."
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August 17, 2005, 19:11
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Cool, we're famous! And academically approved!!
(Now I gotta see about getting some kind of accreditation for AU... )
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August 17, 2005, 20:05
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Cool, we're famous! And academically approved!!
(Now I gotta see about getting some kind of accreditation for AU... )
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Please work on those Continueing Education points as well
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August 17, 2005, 21:16
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Originally posted by Ming
Where was this when I was going to school. I would love to have gotten course credits for playing civ
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Except computers weren't invented yet. (or electricity....)
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August 17, 2005, 22:47
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Ming-
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Paid... to be here...
Do people really think we get paid for our work here?
All the staff members do this for free
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Ming, you forget- Markos and Dan pay in PLUS-benefits
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Looks like DanQ is gonna have to spend some time setting up a new section at Apolyton for educators and students to attract a new crowd...
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Great idea... "Civ for Educators"... Maybe we could finally get that "History" section that everyone always petitions about every few months. 
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August 17, 2005, 23:42
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Originally posted by DarkCloud
Maybe we could finally get that "History" section that everyone always petitions about every few months.
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Hmmmm...
Nope, sorry.
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August 18, 2005, 14:05
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Nice to see 'Poly's profile ever higher.
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August 18, 2005, 16:18
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This is a gaming site?
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August 18, 2005, 17:14
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The national research council must have not been to off-topic then... 
and saw one of our many circumcision threads. .
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