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The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Tech Trade Thread]
This is the Tech Trade Thread for the Diplo Game "The Dance of Civilizations" (DoC)
The purpose of this thread is to report Tech Trades made in this game.
Post in-character story and diplomacy for this game in the Story Thread. Discuss all organizational aspects of this game the Organization Thread.
Use your Anonymous Apolyton Game Account to put posts in this thread.
The Dance of Civilizations is a diplomacy game.
The players try to rule their empires like they are real. Role playing and story telling is an important way to achieve this.
Fore more information visit the Diplogame FAQ by OzzyKP
Tech Trade Rule:
4a. Trading away a tech costs 1 voucher. All players get 8 vouchers. Vouchers cannot be traded away for anything but techs. (this means that civs can give away 8 techs, receive 8 techs for their vouchers, trade 8 techs for 8 techs or a combination of these options.)
4b. When 4 civs have advanced to the next age (ancient, classical, medieval, renaissance, industrial, modern, future) all techs of the age before the past age can be traded freely in a 1 tech for 1 tech trade without the need to spend vouchers. (If 4 players are in the medieval age, all techs of the ancient age can be traded freely, etc.)
4c. All tech trades must be reported in the Tech/Units trade thread. For '4a trades', only the 'giver(s)' must be reported. For '4b trades' the explicit deal must be reported. For '4b trades' the 4 civs that are supposed to have advanced into the next age must be listed along with the trade report.
For more information visit the Organization Thread.
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Arabia
19 Tech to Rome Arabia y -1
18 Tech from Rome Rome y
44 Tech to Korea Arabia y -1
44 Tech from Korea Arabia y
49 Tech to Britan Arabia y
102 Tech to Korea Arabia
102 Tech from Korea Arabia -1
159 Tech from Persia Arabia y -1
189 Tech from Persia Arabia y -1
196 Tech to Rome Arabia y -1
196 Tech from Rome Arabia y
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Byzantium
77 Tech to Rome Rome y -1
77 Tech from Rome Rome y
111 Tech from ??? Byz -1
130 Tech from Persia Persia y
130 Tech to Persia Persia y -1
137 Tech to ??? Byz -1
141 Tech to Greece Greece
186 Tech to ??? Byz -1
207 Tech from Rome Rome y -1
208 Tech to Korea Byzan y
212 Tech to Persia Persia
263 Used 1 Voucher Byzantium -1
302 Tech from Persia Persia y -1
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Britan
21 Tech from Russia Britan y -1
40 Tech from Persia Britan -1
49 Tech from Arabia Arabia y -1
54 Tech from Persia Britan -1
63 2 Techs from Persia Britan -2
103 Tech from Persia Britan -1
119 Tech from Persia Britan -1
158 Tech from Persia Persia
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Egypt
14 Tech to Inca Inca y -1
14 Tech from Inca Inca y
36 Tech from Inca Inca
41 Tech to Ina Egypt -1
43 Tech from Inca Inca
46 Tech to Korea Egypt y -1
72 Tech to Inca Egypt -1
80 Tech to Rome Rome -1
80 Tech from Rome Rome
104 Tech to Inca Inca -1
104 Tech from Inca Inca
111 Tech to Rome Rome -1
111 Tech from Rome Rome
142 Tech from Rome Rome
142 Tech to Rome Rome -1
143 Tech from Inca Inca
143 Tech to Inca Inca
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England
16 Tech to Korea England y -1
16 Tech from Korea England y
61 2 Techs to Russia England y -2
61 2 Techs from Russia England y
109 Tech to Russia Russia
187 Tech to Persia Persia y -1
187 Tech from Persia Persia y
202 Used 1 voucher England -1
217 Used 1 voucher England -1
261 Used 2 vouchers England -2
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Greece
38 Tech from Korea Korea -1
70 Tech from Korea Greece
70 Tech to Korea Greece -1
140 Tech from Rome Rome y -1
141 Tech from Byzantium Greece -1
243 Voucher used Greece -1
249 Voucher used Greece -1
252 2 Vouchers used Greece -2
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Inca
Post Deal Reported by confirmed Voucher
14 Tech to Egypt Inca y -1
14 Tech from Egypt Inca y
36 Tech to Egypt Inca -1
41 Tech from Egypt Egypt
43 Tech to Egypt Inca -1
72 Tech from Egypt Egypt
104 Tech to Egypt Inca -1
104 Tech from Egypt Inca
143 Tech to Egypt Inca -1
143 Tech from Egypt Inca -1
184 Tech from Persia Inca y
184 Tech to Persia Inca y -1
236 Tech to Russia Russia -1
236 Tech from Russia Russia
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India
26 tech to Mali Mali
28 tech to Natives Natives
156 tech to Mali India -1
162 tech to Mali Mali
173 tech to Natives Natives
204 Used 1 voucher India -1
232 Tech to Mali India y -1
232 Tech from Mali India y
245 Used voucher India -1
262 Used voucher India -1
270 Tech to Mali India -1
273 Used 1 voucher India -1
279 Used 1 Voucher India -1
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Korea
15 Tech to Natives Natives y -1
15 Tech from Natives Natives y
16 Tech to England England y -1
16 Tech from England England y
38 Tech to Greece Korea -1
38 Tech from Greece Korea
44 Tech to Arabia Arabia y -1
44 Tech from Arabia Arabia y
70 Tech to Greece Greece -1
70 Tech from Greece Greece
99 Tech to Rome Rome -1
99 Tech from Rome Rome
102 Tech to Arabia Arabia -1
102 Tech from Arabia Arabia
208 Tech from Byzan Byzan y -1
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Mali
26 tech from India Mali -1
156 tech from India India
162 tech from India Mali -1
232 Tech from India India y
232 Tech to India India y -1
242 Tech to Natives Mali y -1
242 Tech from Natives Mali y
246 Tech to Natives Mali y -1
246 Tech from Natives Mali y
270 Tech from India India
296 Tech to Natives Mali y -1
296 Tech from Natives Mali y -1
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Natives
15 Toch to Korea Natives y -1
15 Tech from Korea Natives y
28 Tech from India Natives -1
173 Tech from India Natives -1
198 Tech to Ottomans Natives y -1
198 Tech from Ottomans Natives y
242 Tech from Mali Mali y
242 Tech to Mali Mali y -1
246 Tech from Mali Mali y
246 Tech to Mali Mali y -1
271 Used to vouchers Natives -2
296 Tech from Mali Mali y
296 Tech to Mali Mali y
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Ottoman
160 2 Techs from Persia Ottoman y -2
198 Tech from Natives Natives y
198 Tech to Natives Natives y -1
200 Tech from Persia Ottoman y -1
234 Tech from Persia Persia y
234 Tech to Persia Persia y -1
244 Tech to Rome Rome
254 2 Vouchers used Ottomans -2
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Persia
40 Tech to Britannia Britan
54 Tech to Britannia Britan
63 2 Techs to Britannia Britan
79 Tech to Russia Persia -1
103 Tech to Britan Britan
119 Tech to Britan Britan
130 Tech to Byzantium Persia y -1
130 Tech from Byzantium Persia y
158 Tech to Britannia Persia -1
159 Tech to Arabia Arabia y
160 2 Techs to Ottoman Ottoman y
176 1 Tech to ???? Persia -1
184 Tech to Inca Inca y -1
184 Tech from Inca Inca y
187 Tech from England Persia y
187 Tech to England Persia y -1
189 Tech to Arabia Arabia y
200 Tech to Ottomans Ottoman y
203 Tech to Russia Persia
212 Tech from Byzan Persia -1
234 Tech to Ottomans Persia y -1
234 Tech from Ottomans Persia y
302 Tech to Byzantium Persia y
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Rome
18 Tech from Arabia Arabia y
19 Tech to Arabia Rome y -1
77 Tech to Byzan Rome y -1
77 Tech from Byzan Rome y
80 Tech to Egypt Rome -1
80 Tech from Egypt Rome
99 Tech to Korea Rome
99 Tech from Korea Rome -1
111 Tech to Egypt Rome -1
111 Tech from Egypt Rome
140 Tech to Greece Rome y
142 Tech to Egypt Rome -1
142 Tech from Egypt Rome
196 Tech from Arabia Arabia y
196 Tech to Arabia Arabia y -1
207 Tech to Byzantium Rome y
244 Tech from Ottomans Rome -1
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Russia
21 Tech to Britan Britan y
61 2 Techs from England England y
61 2 Techs to England England y -2
79 1 Tech from Persia Persia
109 1 Tech from England Russia -1
128 1 Tech to ??? Russia -1
183 1 Tech from ??? Russia -1
203 Tech from Persia Persia -1
236 Tech from Inca Russia
236 Tech to Inca Russia -1
264 Used 1 Voucher Russia -1
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I've updated this thread with a voucher table and a tech/era table in the first post.
Everybody is free to report any tech-era change for any civ, nobody is obligated to do so.
We will only move to the next tech-trade era if the table above (wich will be duplicated now and then into the latest thread post) shows so. (so no secret tech trading while others don't know yet)
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if there are now two civs in medieval, the current tech trade level should be medieval, right?
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The correct answer is: No, it should be 4 (check the rules)
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4b. When 4 civs have advanced to the next age (ancient, classical, medieval, renaissance, industrial, modern, future) all techs of the age before the past age can be traded freely in a 1 tech for 1 tech trade without the need to spend vouchers. (If 4 players are in the medieval age, all techs of the ancient age can be traded freely, etc.)
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Right now only techs from the prehistoric age can be traded.
- Settling
- Working
- Walking
- Waging War
- Building Barracks
- Climb hills
- Swimming
- Whining
Feel free to trade those techs 
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We'll have tech trading as soon as 2 more civs enter the classical age. (free tech trading)
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October 7, 2009, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Robert Plomp
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We'll have tech trading as soon as 2 more civs enter the classical age. (free tech trading)
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You mean the medieval age, right? I think when i get there I will have all the ancient techs so no free tech trade for me 
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October 7, 2009, 19:55
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So all ancient Techs are now available for free trades?
As surely more than 4 are in classical if two are in medieval already.
Anyone want to trade with Korzan any of the Ancient Techs ? It no cost to anyone now.
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October 7, 2009, 20:31
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Sure Ill trade as soon as we meet.
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So from what i gather it goes like this does it
1. 4 Civs get to a new era.
2. Two Eras below that level any civs that dont have all those techs in that era can now exchange techs for no vouchers.
Can other civs GIFT those lower techs for no cost? Does it have to be via trade ?
For isntance if i am missing a tech can the No ! civ gift it to me without me having to give him a tech back and neither of us is costed a voucher.
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October 8, 2009, 01:35
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I'm sorry, I said it wrong. It should be medieval age indeed, not classical age.
When we're in age 3, techs from age 1 can be traded freely. (when in age 4, techs from trade 2 can be traded freely, etc.)
I'm not sure in which age we are, ancient or classical, but we're not in the medieval age yet, which is the only age that makes a difference.
When 4 civs discovered one of the following techs we're in the med age:
FEUDALISM MEDIEVAL
THEOLOGY MEDIEVAL (INDIA)
MUSIC MEDIEVAL
CIVIL SERVICE MEDIEVAL
GUILDS MEDIEVAL
DIVINE RIGHT MEDIEVAL
PHILOSOPHY MEDIEVAL (PERSIA)
PAPER MEDIEVAL
BANKING MEDIEVAL
MACHINERY MEDIEVAL
ENGINEERING MEDIEVAL
OPTICS MEDIEVAL
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Saladin is pleased to report his wiseguys have reported Alphabet in two decades. I believe that will advance me to the next era and allow me to trade with others ancient techs without reporting vouchers?
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October 12, 2009, 12:11
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No, Saladin. Alphabet will bring you into the classical age. We need 4 players in the medieval age to be able to trade ancient age techs freely.
With alphabet you can trade ancient age techs for vouchers though 
This is how it works:
| 4 players in Era: | | Then all civs can freely trade: | | ANCIENT | | | | CLASSICAL | | | | MEDIEVAL | | ANCIENT | | RENAISSANCE | | CLASSICAL | | INDUSTRIAL | | MEDIEVAL | | MODERN | | RENAISSANCE | | FUTURE | | INDUSTRIAL |
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But yea, if you have alphabet you can trade any tech you like with anyone you like, you just need to use vouchers each time.
This shouldn't be so confusing people...
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October 12, 2009, 16:07
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Tech to Egypt so lose 1 voucher.
Tech from Egypt so they lose 1 Voucher.
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October 13, 2009, 13:15
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Native America has traded techs with Korea.
-1 voucher each.
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England has traded techs with Korea.
-1 voucher each.
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Confirm the above . used two techs ..
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Arabians Trade Tech With Rome
1 voucher used
We are now in the classical era.
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Originally Posted by Arabia (DoC)
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1 voucher used
We are now in the classical era.
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one voucher for Rome in the same deal
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Confirm what the Incans said
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1 voucher used in trade with Russia.
We are now in the classical era.
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Confirmed. No Russian vouchers used.
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Confirmed. No Russian vouchers used.
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how ?? i thought we could only trade tech for tech..
that means each civ had to use a Voucher ?
if i mised this then please reiterate.
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4a. Trading away a tech costs 1 voucher. All players get 8 vouchers. Vouchers cannot be traded away for anything but techs. (this means that civs can give away 8 techs, receive 8 techs for their vouchers, trade 8 techs for 8 techs or a combination of these options.)
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It's allowed to:
- give away a tech (the giver of the tech loses a voucher)
- trade a tech for a tech (both lose a voucher)
- trade a tech for a voucher (the receiver of the tech loses a voucher)
But vouchers cannot be traded away, unless for 1 tech.
So trading 2 vouchers for 1 tech is not allowed. Or 1 voucher for gold or for peace.
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Mali traded voucher for tech with India
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thanks for keeping us well organized Robert
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Native America acquired tech from India. -1 voucher.
India did not get tech from Native America.
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is anyone else Medieval yet?????
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I don't think so.
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