The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 03:36

This is the Organization Thread for the Diplo Game "The Dance of Civilizations" (DoC)

The purpose of this thread is to discuss all organizational aspects of this game. For in-character story or diplomacy posts please use the Story Threads.

The Dance of Civilizations is a diplomacy game played in Civilization IV: Beyond the Pit (v3.19)
The players try to rule their empires like they are real. Role playing and story telling is an important way to achieve this.
Fore more information visit the Diplogame FAQ by OzzyKP

Below you find several sections containing most information regarding this game.
All (most) sections are scrollable! That means more information is being shown if you scroll the section down!

Game Score Stats and Charts
Month 01 General
Month 01 Categories

Month 02 General
Month 02 Diplo/Story
Month 02 Atti/Score

Month 03 General
Month 03 Diplo/Story
Month 03 Atti/Score

Month 04 General
Month 04 Diplo/Story
Month 04 Atti/Score

Month 05 General
Month 05 Diplo/Story
Month 05 Atti/Score

Month 06 General
Month 06 Diplo/Story
Month 06 Atti/Score

Month 07 General
Month 07 Diplo/Story
Month 07 Atti/Score

Month 08 General

Month 08 Categories Diplomacy and Story

Month 08 Categories Attitude and Gamescore

Current Gamescore

OzzyKP · August 18, 2009, 10:42

Great timing with the 10,000th post.

Black Knight 427 · August 18, 2009, 10:44

What is the info to log into the game?

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 10:48

Login information:
Name: Pick a name that won't reveal your identity on civstats!
Server IP: anonymous.plomp.eu:2062 (<-- the 'anonymous' part is there to remind you evertime to use an anonymous name

)
password: dance

(it's in the first post of this thread as well now)

Rome (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 12:47

prepping for first connect

bamf226 · August 18, 2009, 13:09

Can someone provide civstats info?

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 13:11

The link is in the first post.
You can claim your civ by using the password I gave you to claim your apolyton account.
Remember: we don't use civstats diplomacy, only apolyton pm!

St Jon · August 18, 2009, 14:41

How do I register my Civ on Civstats and how do I change p/w on the game?

Without trawling how do I get to my emails, IC?

Sorry to be thick on this but BtP was my first MP Game of CivIV ever and my 1st MP Game of anything for over 15 years.

Times have changed for me and I am now a very old man.

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 16:21

Registration on civstats is not really important.
But you can do it by just registering on the website (civstats.com) and then go to our gamepage (link in first post). Just above the 'turn timer' it says 'register your leader'. There you go.

There's no e-mail system. Use the PM system of Apolyton by logging in to your DoC account. (ie. "Greece (DoC)").

No problems, ask any question you want! (I may not answer them all though

)

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 16:22

Ok, Ozzy just pm'ed me that there's one problem with the map.
A restart may be needed. I'd say it's Ozzy's call, he knows best.

I'll let you guys know here.

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 16:50

We're going to restart the game.
That means that everybody who already played has to play again.

I'm going to reduce the turn timer to 65 hours b/c 7 hours already have passed. The 3 days are there to make everybody aware we've started. This reload doesn't change that.

please give us 10-20 minutes.

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 16:58

Game's up!
Important: new password: 'checkyourname' to remember you to... check your name! (if it's anonymous!)

Korea (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 17:05

cool

Robert Plomp · August 18, 2009, 17:08

Originally Posted by OzzyKP

Great timing with the 10,000th post.

It just came around that way

But I knew today that there were only about 10 posts left, so I planned it a bit today

Korea (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 17:59

Ok looking forward to a new challenge.

Native America (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 21:48

:-)

Ottoman Empire (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 22:06

Salutations.

Arabia (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 22:29

Are we using gmail accounts ?

Update >>. Ah I see not from reading the prior threads - too bad.

But you're welcome to send Saladin missives via camel mail by using: arabia_doc@cogeco.ca

Orb (DoC) · August 18, 2009, 23:35

Robert Plomp · August 19, 2009, 00:16

Arabia; please just use the Apolyton PM system. Otherwise other players also have to register an anonymous mail account.

Pinchak has pm'ed me that he is abandoning this game. He dislikes the rules and thinks it's too complex. I'm not going to try to convince him to stay with us.

So we need a new player.
Ozzy, I'm going to let you find out which civ Pinchak was. Can you sub for him for the time being?

Everyone: please look around for a perm player! It would be cool if we can find someone before turn 2 starts!

mzprox · August 19, 2009, 02:14

The login information is confusing, it must be cleared up. In the first post it's written in 3 different ways and none of them correct actually .

The correct form,
login: plomp.eu:2062
pw: checkyourname

edit by RP: the real correct form

edit by mz; both anonymous.plomp.eu:2062 and the one w/o anonymous is working

Robert Plomp · August 19, 2009, 03:02

I'm sorry, I forgot that I placed it also outside the iframe. I've removed 1 (incorrect) instance. The 2nd one was ok. I've edited your post to reflect that correct version

Rasputin · August 19, 2009, 04:49

ok looks like good luck , my computer is back, now whic hversion of civ we running what is the latest patch?

Robert Plomp · August 19, 2009, 05:10

Welcome back!!
You made it in time since the first turn isn't even over yet!

civ4:beyond the sword, patch 3.19
I've updated the first post with this info.

Rasputin · August 19, 2009, 05:27

ok and link to the civ picker site for getting my pasword for civ sign in ?

Robert Plomp · August 19, 2009, 05:40

http://plomp.eu/civpicker.nsf/login

Black Knight 427 · August 19, 2009, 07:10

Any luck finding a new player yet?

Byzantium (DoC) · August 19, 2009, 10:07

.

mzprox · August 19, 2009, 10:43

Since we have more than one month till the first vote and untill the techtrade becomes avaible (someone needs to invent alphabet first) I think we should keep the discussion and suggestions open in these matters because I'm not entirely satisfied with the current state of rules
And no I dont really have better ideas, so if they stay as they are , fine.. but maybe we can make them better.

Here are some of my concerns:
As some others had suggested already I dont think that we should separate the diplo and story category. We could have a single score for them and increase it's value.
My reasoning:
-The most important one: it could make the vote more easier and more fair ( in my view) It would be up to the players to decide who they reward with their points and why: did they make nice pictures, did they accomplish something either with diplo or military means. Sometimes it's just hard to give a diplo score to someone who hasnt posted any diplo related stuff in the month, (they still could had been very active in diplo via pm-s, but if no post about it most of us wont know about it). So players could post long text stories, newspapers, youtube videos, comics, diplo letters, military maps etc.. -the main thing is to post something (if you want points)- and then it's up to the other players to decide how they liked those.
-Sometimes it's just hard to separate these things, different players have different preferences. I dont really write stories but many public letters-they could fall into the diplo category but actually I tell stories with them too.

The fair paly vote sounds odd to me.. I dont really understand how it will work except when we use it as a tool of punishment.

About tech-trade

- I think vouchers should be tradeable as they were in btp- maybe we could ad an extra thing: voucher can only be given away if it's used up in the same trade.
For those who not really familiar with the voucher system in BtP: it allowed less advanced civs to get tech gifts from the more advanced ones for their vouchers.
example: I'm being a poor and backward civ, but have a voucher. I give that to my strong ally who can use up that voucher and give me a tech gift, or sell me for a reasonable money- So for the advanced civ this trade would cost nothing.

I think it's ok to have less vouchers than we had in btp. I'de really like to have something like this: we start with 3-5 and then get extra 2 in every era. With this we could avoid that some civs waste their vouchers for techs like fishing or some player get too much ahead of others by excessive techtrading. Ofc we should have to keep track of the tech eras but we have to do that anyway for the 8b rule..
..which leads to next point..
We have to brainstorm about how we want to make that system work (ie. allowing tech trade from two eras before the 4 most advanced civs' current tech level). I'd rather not report when i advanced into the next era-and i may forget it involuntarily etc.

hmm i finish for now before it gets even longer

bamf226 · August 19, 2009, 13:50

Originally Posted by Robert Plomp

Pinchak has pm'ed me that he is abandoning this game. He dislikes the rules and thinks it's too complex. I'm not going to try to convince him to stay with us.

Too complex? How so? Connect to plomp.eu:2062, pick civ, enter password, play turn. Wasn't very complicated at all.