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Old May 14, 2009, 14:48   #1
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SCENARIO LEAGUE INFORMATION


VISIT OUR VERY OWN WEBSITE: THE SCENARIO LEAGUE

CONTENTS:
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2) Introduction to the Scenario League
3) News
4) Current projects
5) Useful threads
6) Links to related sites
7) Links to resources
8) Links to scenario archives
9) A guide to starting scenarios
10) Reserved for new ideas

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INTRODUCTION TO THE SCENARIO LEAGUE

Welcome to the Civilization 2 Scenario League. This forum is home to Civ2 scenario designers, playtesters, graphics artists and enthusiasts. The emphasis is on user created scenarios so if you are only interested in the original game I would recommend the Civ2 General Forum. If you enjoy designing or playing scenarios then you are in the right place!

As you will see in the 'Current Projects/Recently completed projects' section (post #4) there are a lot of games in development. Some may take a long time to be completed but a lot of the fun of this hobby is creating process. If you want to try out any of the scenarios made by the members here of by past masters please check the 'Links to related sites' section (post #6) or 'Links to scenario archives' section (post #8). Our own Scenario League site has some of the best and most recent scenarios but there are plenty of other great works out there!

If you are new to Civ2 and need advice on how to get anything to work please read the 'A guide to starting scenarios' section (post #9) or start a new thread about your issue and the members here will be happy to help.

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14th May 2009 - NEW SCENARIO LEAGUE INFORMATION THREAD BEGUN

Scenario League News Blog
Coming soon!

THE Civ 2 News Thread!
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186003

Scenario League CivGroup:
http://www.apolyton.net/civgroups/ne...&civgroupid=55

Apolyton Civilization Site: CivII News:
http://apolyton.net/civ2/

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CURRENT PROJECTS

Moros y Cristianos
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=188081

Aeterna Civitas III ToT
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187973

Balkan Breakup Scenario
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186873

Jan III Sobieski scenario:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165078

Malaya-Burma:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183904

A Soaring Spirit:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182885

POMARJ for ToT development thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=169778

The Korean War Development Thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154694

The Necromancer (scenario):
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=184684

The Sea Kings!:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=161400

A Divided Nation - Creation Thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=177983

Blood and Iron:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183740

A Slim Victory:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163117

The Thirty Years War:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159657

"Rise and Fall of Teutonic Order":
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=162109

Soviet Steel 3:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=179207

Caesar's Gallic War:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=173252

Fortress Europe:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166731

Recently completed projects

Jamestout's Crusades update:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185555

American War of Independence - Creation Thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159742

Dainichi Sekai Taisen version 3:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185055

Eurasian Wars Final Release!:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=184620

ToT Graphics for Bonaparte II:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=184389

New Viking Age Scenario:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=181682

War of the Ring - beta:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=181069

The Greek world Divided:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=181638

Red October v.2.0 playtest:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=173646

US Civil War 2008/12 - Scenario Idea/Discussion:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159785

RED FRONT ToT REDUX:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=172162

Rise of the Dictators:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178312

Age of War Redux:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=181346

OStfront Playtest Thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=179096

Sengoku Jidai v3 ToT:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178748

People's General PeG-ACW:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=177765

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USEFUL THREADS

COMMUNITY PROJECTS

Modified Scenarios Workshop
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185709

-Skill needed. Please apply.... (Old ToT conversion thread)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=138667

-Test of Time Conversion Project update
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...ight=bonaparte

GRAPHICS THREADS:

Submit your work to one of the following galleries:

Ancient/Pre-Steam Unit Graphics:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132493
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71542

Industrial Unit Graphics:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132494
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71567

WW2 Unit Graphics:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132496
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71527

Modern Unit Graphics:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132498
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71565

SciFi/Fantasy Unit Graphics:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132499
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71562

Non-Unit Graphics Showcase:
New:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132501
Old:http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=71561

Flag Request Thread
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132371

THE OLD STICKY THREADS:

The Great Library: Important Thread Index & Useful Links:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132502

Scenario League site news and advice:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=147623

Guide to uploading to S-League site:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=162851

Submissions for Sleague:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126667

Players Needed Thread:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165889

THE CIV2 SOURCE CODE PETITION
The general consensus is that the quest for the source code is dead, mainly due to the fact that current owners (2K Games) never received it. That's without even beginning with the legal and technical problems! For those interested in the history of the quest for the code read here:

The Civ 2 Source Code Petition at Apolyton:
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=132525

The Civ 2 Source Code Petition at Civ Fanatics:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=88765

Civ II source code (Last attempt):
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183030

PLAY GUIDES

The Great Library Index #1
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...&threadid=2723

The Great Library Index #2
http://home.tiscali.cz/cz045662/civ2/glindex2.htm

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LINKS TO RELATED SITES



The Scenario League Site:
http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.php?title=Home
Home to the Scenario Leagues scenarios and resources.

Civ2 Multiplayer Games
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186150
Thread about joining in with multiplayer games with links to active forums.

We Play Civ - Civilization 2 Forum
http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5

Best Old Games.net:
http://www.bestoldgames.net/eng/old-...lization-2.php
A free download of Civ2 Multiplayer Gold Edition. No CD required, just unzip and play (god that sounds so wrong ). I take it this site is kosher but use your own judgement.

The Cradle of Civilization:
http://coc.apolyton.net/
This fertile valley is home to Civilization Test of Time. Loads of great resources, a real goldmine!

Civ II on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=82058499005
Our very own Scenario League group on Facebook.



Civilization Webring Forum:
http://www.civforum.de/index.php
A German language Civilization Forum.

Civ2 - Multiplayer at the Civilization Forum:
http://www.civforum.de/forumdisplay.php?f=3
One of the last bastions of CivII multiplayer. My own personal recommendation!

Catfish's Cave:
http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/
Resources for Civilization 2: Test of Time as well as his epic War of the Rings scenario.

Tecumseh's village:
http://www.tecumseh.150m.com/
Home to our very own Tec(h)umseh's ToT scenarios as well as several classic scenarios by other designers converted to ToT.

Mercator's Civilization 2 Site:
http://www.civgaming.net/mercator/
Need a Utility for Civ2? Look no further than Mr Vermeiren's treasure trove!

Civilization Fanatics Center:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14
The other major Civ2 scenario creation forum on the internet.



The Spanish Civilization Site:
http://spanish.apolyton.net/
Available in Spanish and English. Home to a fine collection of scenarios.

Carl's Scenarios for Civilization II:
http://users.stargate.net/~harden/index.html
Five of Carl Fritz's own scenarios (all very good) and three very useful utilities (Civ Tweak, Civ City and Civ Hot).

Prometeus' Classic Civilization Home Page:
http://web.tiscalinet.it/ClassicCiv/

John Ellis ("Patient English") Home Page:
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/netdesign/

Indalciv2:
http://www.geocities.com/indalciv2/Main.html
Scenario's by Henrik Lohmander, Vegard Bjørketun and Jesús Muñoz Fernández

Civilization Fascist Site:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...r/civfasc.html
The very easily offended should read the intro before entering. Home to the Fascist Patch/Mod.

Civilization Partisans Hideout:
http://www.geocities.com/jvaldeztoo/cph/cph.htm
John Valdez's Civilization site.

Kestrel's Modpacks/Scenarios Page for Civilization II Test of Time:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kestrel18/favourites.htm

Sacrificial Blood 2.1: Rise of the High Native Empires:
http://www.shayworld.com/games/sacrificial/mainpage/
A Civilization II Multiplayer Gold Modpack created by Shay Yates Roberts.

The Swedish Civilization II Site:
http://w1.875.telia.com/~u87514347/

Civmania:
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare...53/civhome.htm

BeBro's Civ2000:
http://civ2000.civwebring.de/

Original Civ2 Scenarios:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...aplan/civ2.htm

C-evo Empire Building Game:
http://www.c-evo.org/

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LINKS TO RESOURCES

Graphics:

Civ2 Units section of the S-League wiki:
http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

Utilities:
Carl's Scenarios for Civilization II:
http://users.stargate.net/~harden/index.html
Home to three very useful utilities: Civ Tweak, Civ City and Civ Hot.

Guides:

The Barbarian Paper Version 1.2 by William Keenan:
http://coc.apolyton.net/guides/barbarian_paper.shtml

Scenario League Design Tips (The Old Site)
http://sleague.apolyton.net/Guides/0civilisation2.php

Everything about Hex-Editing - UPDATED:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=50848

Getting started making a scenario
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=141538

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LINKS TO SCENARIO ARCHIVES

Civ Fanatics Civ2 Downloads Collection:
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2/downloads/scenarios

Civ Fanatics Civilization II downloads database:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...p?do=cat&id=79

The Civilization Scenario Collection:
http://csc.apolyton.net/

Some of John Ellis' Scenarios
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/netdesign/scenarios.htm

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A GUIDE TO STARTING SCENARIOS

1) Make sure the scenario you wish to download is compatible with your version of Civilization. For example a scenario designed for Test of Time will not work if you only have Multiplayer Gold Edition and vices versus. You may also need to add a patch. If you are not sure look for a 'Read Me' text file in the scenario folder. This should state the version needed.

2) Unzip the downloaded scenario and put the folder into your Civ2 folder. I normally create a new folders called Scenarios to keep them in order. You can play the scenario from your desktop if you wish but keeping them somewhere in the Civ2 folder helps you keep track of things.

3) Make sure you check in the scenario folder for a notepad file called "Read Me" or "Players Notes". These documents may contain important information regarding the installation of the scenario as well as background info. Some scenarios come with a batch file that must be run before starting a game. The batch file normally re-names certain rules, events and graphics files automatically and you may need to repeat this at various points in the scenario. If you are running Windows XP or Vista you will need to download this: http://sleague.apolyton.net/images/7...PPLICATION.zip
Choice will allow XP and Vista to run the batch file.

If CHOICE.com does not work for you then try CHOICE.exe which can be downloaded in this thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...89#post5615989

4) If you encounter any problems that you cannot resolve please feel free to ask for help in this forum. Enjoy your scenario!

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RESERVED FOR NEW IDEAS

This is the last post I need to annex. I guess every CivII player has a megalomaniac inside them just waiting to get out. Feel free to post comments, ideas, criticisms and requests below. Although I have submitted the first ten posts this is by no means my baby. The idea is for everyone to have their say and to build an information page that will benefit the whole community. I have deliberately left this post in reserve to allow room for expansion. If one of the sections proves pointless or we run out of space everything can be shuffled around to fit.

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I have been thinking about how people might find their way to our forum and I decided to see how easy it was to find us on Google using the search words "Civilization 2".

The first result is the Wikipedia page about Civilization 2. Under the "See also" section there is a link for Apolyton Civilization Site (IE a Wikipedia page about the Site) and at the bottom of that page there is an external link to Apolyton's home page. From this home page you can either choose forums and look through the list to find Civ2 Scenario League or you can click on the Civilization II section under Classic Gaming which takes you to the Apolyton Civilization Site: Civ2 homepage/news. From there you can click on forums to find us.

I tried to edit the Wikipedia page to add the Scenario League forum and Scenario League Wiki in the External Links but it did not seem to work. Could somebody with Wikipedia editing experience mind adding these two links. This would mean that after typing Civilization 2 into Google potential visitors would only be two clicks away from discovering our lair

The second Google result is a site called Best Old Games that has a download link for Civ2. I have downloaded this and will see if the game works. If it does it would be a useful link for this Info thread.

The third result was for a site called Abandonia which as far as I could tell offered a download of Civ2 MGE that does not work.

The fourth result was for Civ Fanatics CivII overview which should allow people to find the Civ2 forum there after a little hunting.

The fifth result was for Apolyton Civilization Site: Civ2 homepage/news like the Wikipedia link from the first Google search result. This home/news page appears to be a little out of date. The most recent news was the release of Eivind's First Strike II in April 07. This is strange as I know Curt has added more recent news stories! Although there is a link on the left for Forums that would take you here I think it would be good if there could be a "news article" that was kept permanently at the top with prominent links to this forum and to the Scenario League Wiki.

As it stands this page appears to be the easiest way to find us through either Wikipedia or Google and I think we need to try and update it a bit. I take it that you can update this page directly Curt, to do you submit news stories to the higher ups?

There is a download database on the left hands side but it is clearly inferior to the Wiki. Do you know if it would be possible to alter this Civ2 home page to be more focused on the active parts of the community, such as the Civ2 General and Scenario League forums and our Wiki and hide away some of the redundant areas such as the Database?
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I not too sure about this thread. Would not our collective interests be best served if all (or most) of these things are dealt with on our website. I mean the galleries and stuff etc. all should all eventually be housed on the wiki site right? Or else what is the wiki site for?

Or is the plan to origanize them here first before porting them over to the website.
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To have everything on the S-League Wiki would be amazing. I just thought this thread could replace some of the older sticky threads which were out of date and a bit disjointed. Here all the useful info is gathered in one place and organized to make things easy to find. I can see no problems replicating all this info on the Wiki too. Think of this thread more as an index than a rival to the Scenario League site.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the galleries. All I intend to do is provide links here to the existing graphics threads on this forum so people can find them easily and submit their work. There is also a link to the Resources section of the SL Wiki. I do not intend to post any graphics collections in this thread, just provide links to other threads and sites that host them.

I hope that makes things a little clearer.
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Thanks guys. There is still a lot to add but it is taking shape quite nicely. The main addition from the old Great Library is obviously the current/recently completed section and the useful threads section. If anyone would like to nominate particularly interesting threads from the past I will add links to them. I have some time today so I will be going through the Great Library and plunder it for all useful (and still active) links.
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This is an excellent bit of work, McMonkey! If you need a hand with anything, just say the word!

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Thanks Ciaran. I think the news/frontpage of the Scenario League (http://apolyton.net/civ2/) needs updating with a permanently topped link to the forum and wiki. I have sent you a PM, and as I said in it don't rush, things will wait
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Just added links to the Scenario League Wiki page, Civ Webring multiplayer forum and this forum on the Wikipedia page as well as a very brief heads up in the text (under the Game Modifications section):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_II Wikipedia Link

Would have done is sooner but it took me a while to find the "edit page" tab which is situated in a slightly different place to where it is on our own beloved Wiki. Hopefully this will help guide some more traffic our way.
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It looks like somebody reverted your edit. IRC wikipedia has a policy against mods making edits pertaining to their own websites (sensibly for conflict of interest reasons). Perhaps you could raise the point in the discussion area, after all they have an external link to the civfanatics page...
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Old May 29, 2009, 07:34   #21
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It seems a bit odd that this would be considered a conflict of interest. I was only trying to direct potentially interested Civ2 fans to a forum and site where it is still being played and discussed. There is no other agenda. I will try and discuss it as you suggested. Thanks EZ.
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That policy is a bit frustrating...!

Surely a human wiki admin can check the edits and approve the changes?

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Originally Posted by McMonkey View Post
Thanks Ciaran. I think the news/frontpage of the Scenario League (http://apolyton.net/civ2/) needs updating with a permanently topped link to the forum and wiki. I have sent you a PM, and as I said in it don't rush, things will wait
A news thread will be created right away...!

I reckon people should let us know on the thread of any scenarios or
items they want covered, and we can duly update the news page.

I might even link to a CIV2 news blog?
Would this be awesome/good/bad?

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A blog is worth trying out. The only reservation I have is the fact that this forum (IE the SL Forum, not this thread!) already does much the same thing. Is there really the need for a separate blog repeating the same sort of info? Just playing Devils advocate. I do think the existing news page should be updated periodically with a summary of recent activity and should also point browsers to the Forum and SL Site.
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Just seen this thread whilst working my way through the old Great Library links:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=133671

Looks like I am reinventing the wheel in more than one manner. Good idea Harry Tuttle!

EDIT: Trawling through the old threads BM (IE Dating from before the emergence of McMonkey ) is really paying off. I just found this brilliant thread by Sarsstock: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132371

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