September 6, 2003, 13:11
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Rest in Peace, SG(2)
It is with the greatest sadness that I must report the death of Ivor Wason, known to this Community as Scouse Git(2).
Ivor succumbed to lung cancer after a frighteningly short battle - he was on holiday in France with me and my family only a fortnight ago. He died peacefully, in hospital, surrounded by his friends. He will be sorely missed.
Even the best of us lose a game now and again.
If only he could have had "just one more turn".
Stu - SG[1]
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September 6, 2003, 13:39
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OMG!..thats terrible news.I'm completely shocked and saddened.
I guess it is merciful that his suffering was minimilized but I'm just  .....I don't know.
A smoker?
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September 6, 2003, 15:07
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King
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September 6, 2003, 16:33
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September 6, 2003, 16:38
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This is hard and bitter news and a terrible loss to all who have had their lives enriched by having shared the "road" for however long with Ivor, SG(2), through this Community. He was always a decent, standup kind of fellow with a delicious wit and generous nature, always helpful and willing to share his knowledge; and, I felt privileged to think of him as my friend.
To his real life best friend and blood-brother, I send condolences and prayers for inner peace and balance. I am awed, Stu, by the grace and perfection of your words, especially the simplicity of the last two lines. (2) was and will ever be among the best of us.
Here's to the Admiral, a fair wind and full sail....
Monk
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September 6, 2003, 18:01
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King
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 I was frightened a little after I sighted the subject of this thread but I hoped the subject stands for something other.
I will keep 24 hours of silence for him - no posts to Poly.
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September 6, 2003, 18:18
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Retired
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Rest in Peace...
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September 6, 2003, 20:10
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Just another peon
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Sad news indeed.
The community will feel the lose.
RIP
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September 6, 2003, 21:29
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Sg{3}
Goodbye, Ivor.
And to Bloody Monk, the greatest thanks and please know that your words moved us to tears.
It was indeed and pleasure and a priviledge to have known a man of such wisdom and good humour.
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September 6, 2003, 22:27
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"Our words are backed by empty wine bottles" - SG(2)
Rest in peace Ivor
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September 6, 2003, 22:39
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RIP SG(2)
Although I didn't know him well, I have seen many thoughtful posts by him , with advice and helpful insights to many a player.
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September 7, 2003, 01:25
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King
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Re: Rest in Peace, SG(2)
I feel I have lost a good friend. Ivor helped bring this forum to life for me - a place to have fun and share a laugh.
My thoughts are with you both, Stu and Sg{3}.
Beyond this, I am lost for words. Rest in Peace.
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September 7, 2003, 02:29
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He will be missed by all of us who read and post here.
And when like her oh Saki you should pass
among the guests star scattered on the grass
and on your joyous errand reach the spot where I made one -
turn down an empty glass
RJM at Sleepers
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September 7, 2003, 12:31
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Ditto all of the above.
My thanks to one has shared, and my hope that there will be another game.
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September 7, 2003, 17:53
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Stu and {3}, though I haven't been blessed with any personal relationship with Ivor, I've truly appreciated his wry humor and good spirit and thoughtfulness. How surprising that I can feel such loss for someone I've never met. I tip my hat and a bottle to him, and send my best wishes to you.
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September 7, 2003, 18:37
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Some of his deeds
I would like to say a few words about what Ivor brought us, because he was not only a witty writer and a very strong strategist, but also one of those who gave most to the community, much more than the smiling daily 'robust constructive criticism' that all of us will remember:
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-Co-author of the most thorough study about starting techs (more than 5000 starts)
-Co-creator of Apolyton's Great Library
-'Very early lander', especially on big maps (samson and solo had almost specialized into small maps, when Ivor advised solo to have a look at some of his saves on bigger maps, and that was the starting point of solo's strategy guide)
- 'Admiral Puke', some sort of Lord Nelson, 2 centuries later (I refer especially to the 'Rome PBEM' played by Dave V, SG[1], SG(2) and myself, that Ivor won so brilliantly)
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September 8, 2003, 01:36
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King
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R.I.P.
My condolances to those he left behind.
I'm sure he'll have a respawn sometime, somewhere, but that's hardly comforting on days like this.
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September 8, 2003, 02:25
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Alas the thread title meant what I feared...
Though I never had the pleasure to play a succession game with SG(2), I read most of them and learnt a lot, while having many a good laugh thanks to the "robust constructive criticism".
We'll miss you Ivor
My thoughts are with you, SG[1] and SG{3}
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September 8, 2003, 04:16
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Cyrion said exactly what I thought - the thread title is alas true. I had hoped that it was a nonsense tale about his being defeated at Prince level but how likely was that?
A deity-level player, and to judge from the small insight given into his personality by the posts he made here, a deity-level person too. This is a sad loss for the entire on-line Civ community and more particularly for Liverpool's Git community.
I feel sure that SG(2) will respawn in a prime 4-special river location, a far better place than here.
RIP
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September 8, 2003, 05:56
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Death, be not proud…
Let us break out the armbands to mourn his passing,
and let us break out best red our pockets can afford to remember him by.
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September 8, 2003, 06:07
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Very sad news indeed. I will miss him.
My deepest sympathies to the SG´s and those closest to him.
Zenon
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September 8, 2003, 07:51
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King
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Sincere sympathies to Ivor's friends and family. His wit and wisdom added a lot to my enjoyment of this site and the game. He was one of my favorite friends from this site.
Thanks for sharing this tragic news, Stu. The site's loss of a "virtual" friend is a lesser one than your loss. But for me, personally, it's better to know Ivor's fate than to have him disappear mysteriously.
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September 8, 2003, 17:49
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I've only known SG(2) for a short time, but I came to admire the assistance and kindness he offered to newbies. Rather than alienation, his 'robust constructive criticism' served as a bond between teacher and student of the great game we all play.
I'd only known him through the succession games, but I pass my condolences onto his family.
Godspeed, Ivor.
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September 8, 2003, 19:27
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Rest in Peace Ivor
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September 9, 2003, 02:10
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My friends, my thanks for your kind words - they have touched us.
Ivor will be buried at noon on Monday 15th at St Luke's, Formby.
Stu
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September 9, 2003, 02:40
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King
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You're all in my thoughts ... as one of my quotes, one I believe in fervently, says, "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart," by Confucius. SG(2)'s heart goes on, and always will.
**bows head, closes eyes**
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September 9, 2003, 03:48
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I know I didn't post around here, but I don't know that I've ever encountered a forum member passing away before.
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September 9, 2003, 05:41
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Deity
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I saw the bad news in Obiwan's sig.
SG(2) was a fine civvist. He will be missed around here.
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September 9, 2003, 06:20
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How awful. I read and enjoyed his posts over the years, but I can only imagine the pain you're going through now. You are in my prayers.
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September 9, 2003, 07:23
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My condolences, this is sad news indeed.
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