Team & Personal Announcements

[Keygen]

Post anything important you or your team wishes to announce and the rest should know about.

[Wittlich]

YOU ARE ALL GOING DOWN! :doitnow!:

Sorry, just could not resist the engraved invite! :lol:

[Rhothaerill]

Do I detect a target? :lol:

[Wittlich]

:b: Rhoth!! Long time no hear my friend! :lol:

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Wittlich
YOU ARE ALL GOING DOWN! :doitnow!:


:hmmm:

:nono:

Ka Pai!

;)

[Nugog]

I am no longer to be known as the leader of Southern Cross.

The "O â Iwi Rangatira" leads this nation.

I am the "Ariki o Iwi"

:D

[proviisori]

Eihän tuosta ymmärrä kukaan mitään.

Kummallista kieltä jotkut puhuupi täällä.

:)

[Zoid]

Online translators leaves a lot to be desired... ;)

And I am the Tohunga o whaikōrero (Master of speeches) or Foreign Minister to you lot! ;)

[conmcb25]

A topped spam thread!

Im impressed.........

:b:

(I am being sarcastic)

[BigFree]

Who is making the "new" map?

Who is hosting the "new" game?

[Pinchak]

Who is making the "new" map?

Who is hosting the "new" game?


Hopefully someone with experience in these areas.

[BigFree]

Originally posted by Pinchak





Hopefully someone with experience in these areas.

It's the people with experience that wish to enjoy these games. ;)

Maybe we can settle on "some experience"? :D

[Zoid]

Originally posted by BigFree
Who is making the "new" map?

Who is hosting the "new" game?

That could be solved already. I'm working on it... :conspire: ;)

[Addled Platypus]

please give us admins a chance to test and fix before released


stand by, cross fingers

Back up plan ???

[Addled Platypus]

as well as forum clean up, reorg'ng

[fed1943]

Just to say thanks to Platypus.

Best regards,

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Zoid


That could be solved already. I'm working on it... :conspire: ;)

on that, I pm'd Solver to get mods powerz changed to game admins ;)

[Zoid]

Ok... Not sure what you mean, but :b: just in case... ;)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Zoid
Ok... Not sure what you mean, but :b: just in case... ;)

http://apolyton.net/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=166123

:)

[Zoid]

:D Aha!

:b: :b: :b:

[RobWorham]

Thanks Platy, and keep up the hard work!!! :b:

[FeMme]

Thanks to everyone for all their efforts in getting this game set up. We really do appreciate it!!! :love: :b:

[Paddy]

could someone please point me in the right direction of where are the correct instructions for joining the game once it restarts

thanks

[Elucidus]

Sorry i meant to post this yesterday.

Simply goto Multiplayer > Direct IP

Put
stg-ptbs.ath.cx:2060
in the address field, leave the password field blank and click connect.

That should be all you need. After that you just select your civ, put in your pwd, ect...

[Paddy]

many thanks :b:

[Zoid]

Not that this has anything to do with the game, but I just purchased the following books:

Alastair Reynolds "Zima Blue & other stories"

Alastair Reynolds" The Prefect"

Tad Williams " The war of the flowers"

In addition to that I bought a new pair of trekking shoes and two quite nice T-shirts. :D

[Paddy]

so glad you were able to share this amazing news with us :p

next time you do your groceries, could you also get 350ml Black Sambuca for me, thank you :b:

[Zoid]

Hey, I'm just following Keygens invite in the OP :p

[FeMme]

Originally posted by Zoid
Not that this has anything to do with the game, but I just purchased the following books:

Alastair Reynolds "Zima Blue & other stories"

Alastair Reynolds" The Prefect"

Tad Williams " The war of the flowers"

In addition to that I bought a new pair of trekking shoes and two quite nice T-shirts. :D


OOoooooo

Alistair Reynolds and Tad Williams!!!! Two of my favourite authors. :b:

Please tell us how the books are. ::nod: :eager:

[Addled Platypus]

Alastair Reynolds: Revelation Space....great read

two more books to finish the series

BTW
Still working on map issues.....

go about twiddling your digits

[RobWorham]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus

BTW
Still working on map issues.....

go about twiddling your digits

Could you please clarify this statement??

Cheers

[Nugog]

:confused:

[snoopy369]

??? Game seems to be down.

[Paddy]

oh....

[RobWorham]

No joy here either...... :(

[IanDC]

Another game of Elucidas is also down so I guess it's a problem with his server.

[snoopy369]

If it comes back up please ensure we have time to take our turns. I am here all day tomorrow (after 8-10 hours of sleep starting about now) so anytime is fine for me after 1pm eastern.

[Paddy]

after all the talk of how fast pitboss games are etc, it is funny just how long 48 hours is.. opps :)

heres hoping we can power through some of the upcoming turns :D

game on !!! :b:

[ZargonX]

Yup, I know it's me holding up this 2nd turn, but a man does have to go to work, you know ;)

[Paddy]

cheers mate - all good

48 hours is so so much faster than the C4DG and the C4ISDG

take ya time... :)

[RobWorham]

On civstats it says that polarnomad converted his civ to AI control, and then 6 minutes later converted back to human control again. :confused:

Could someone please explain the reasons for doing this, and how this was done without the admin password.....

Cheers

[Elucidus]

I did it for him. He had password problems and that is the best way to resolve them.

[FeMme]

Thanks for clarifying this Luc. :b:

[Elucidus]

No problem, I guess I should have announced it. You people watch this thing like a hawk. :)

[RobWorham]

Pitboss and civstats are all new and shiny for many of us. It draws us like a moth to a bright light!! :expect:

[Beta]

Originally posted by Paddy
after all the talk of how fast pitboss games are etc, it is funny just how long 48 hours is.. opps :)

heres hoping we can power through some of the upcoming turns :D

game on !!! :b:

Agreed. These are early times. Move the warrior or scout and press enter. :b:

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Beta


Agreed. These are early times. Move the warrior or scout and press enter. :b:

:nod:

'Course - some of our time zones do slow things down......

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Nugog


:nod:

'Course - some of our time zones do slow things down......

sounds like an advert for mainland colby

:b:

[FeMme]

It won't happen over night but it will happen! ;)

[Nugog]

Good things take time................

[Paddy]

maybe one of Team Apolyton could play their turn soon???

TBA
snoopy369
DanQ
Locutus
Solver
CyberShy

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by RobWorham
On civstats it says that polarnomad converted his civ to AI control, and then 6 minutes later converted back to human control again. :confused:

Could someone please explain the reasons for doing this, and how this was done without the admin password.....

Cheers

Originally posted by Elucidus
I did it for him. He had password problems and that is the best way to resolve them.

Just now checked this thread.

We waived the password on turn one and couldn't set one up after that, so this was a wonderful solution. Thanks again Elucidus! :)

[FeMme]

Originally posted by Paddy
maybe one of Team Apolyton could play their turn soon???

TBA
snoopy369
DanQ
Locutus
Solver
CyberShy


:nod:

Yes, please do as I'm sure I'm not the only one hanging out to play the next turn!! :eager: ;)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by FeMme



:nod:

Yes, please do as I'm sure I'm not the only one hanging out to play the next turn!! :eager: ;)

yep there are other teams ready for the next turn :b:

[RobWorham]

Originally posted by FeMme



:nod:

Yes, please do as I'm sure I'm not the only one hanging out to play the next turn!! :eager: ;)

:bored: ---> :zzz: ---> :eager: ---> :ana: ---> :D

[AAHZ]

It appears that The Goonies is now a defunct team. I have made attempts to reach other members but I am unable to play this game myself.

Any action made by the appropriate Game Admins is accepted by me.

thanks and sorry.

[RobWorham]

:(

[Zoid]

http://www.smileyhut.com/sad/rip.gif

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Zoid
http://www.smileyhut.com/sad/rip.gif

:(

[proviisori]

:frownno:

[Paddy]

so do we actually have an admin anymore???

[Zoid]

Snoopy?

[Paddy]

hmmm, no I do not think he would be it, as he is a team player...

it certainly would suck if he had the game admin password as well as able to take the game offline anytime he wanted etc ;)

Addled Platman was one, not sure who the other was anymore...

[Zoid]

Elucidus. And I thought who ever hosted the game was also the admin?

[Paddy]

ahh yes Luc indeed

will send Platman and Luc an email with a link here

[Addled Platypus]

I have been out of touch with this game for o sooo long,
do not know if I can of use anymore....


feel free to put me to the flames

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
I have been out of touch with this game for o sooo long,
do not know if I can of use anymore....


feel free to put me to the flames

there is a good chance you are the only admin we have

and with a dead team we do need an admin to step in and remove them etc

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by AAHZ
It appears that The Goonies is now a defunct team. I have made attempts to reach other members but I am unable to play this game myself.

Any action made by the appropriate Game Admins is accepted by me.

thanks and sorry.

You dont have ANYONE who can play the save?

At this point of the game there aint much to it..............

[Keygen]

Perhaps the last 'Goonie' could recruit a couple of new members?

[snoopy369]

I have the ability to add or remove teams at my whim, as is required to be the person running the game :) I could AI someone if it came to that (and then someone else could join as them, or retire them, or whatever). But that's obviously not a preference...

[conmcb25]

I am against conversion to AI, Im playing a pitboss where that happened and imho at least marginally exploitive behavoir has resulted.

Wipe the CIV off the face of the planet first.

[AAHZ]

im sorry but its not my team, it is Unorthodox's. please PM him with the particulars.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by conmcb25
I am against conversion to AI, Im playing a pitboss where that happened and imho at least marginally exploitive behavoir has resulted.

Wipe the CIV off the face of the planet first.

yes I too feel it is best to remove the team instead of turning it into AI

[IanDC]

Can't We just throw it open first ? See if there's anybody out there willing to play it either on their own or as a group.
We don't know how it will change the game removing them, it could give an extra chunk of free land to somebody or remove another teams only close potential trade partner etc.

[Zoid]

Well, it couldn't hurt I suppose... Give it two weeks and if no one's interested remove the civ then. A removal will affect the game in one way or another, but what can you do? You can't force people to play... We'll have to treat it as a random event, plauge or something... ;)

[Paddy]

leave their cities in ruins :evil:

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by IanDC
Can't We just throw it open first ? See if there's anybody out there willing to play it either on their own or as a group.
We don't know how it will change the game removing them, it could give an extra chunk of free land to somebody or remove another teams only close potential trade partner etc.

I say no Ian, but I see your point.

The biggest hurdle in these games is KEEPING INTEREST. Another two week delay is just going to make this situation worse.

Get rid of them and move on.

Or tank this game and start another, and dont accept teams unless they have at least 3 turnplayers. (or more)

[Nugog]

Originally posted by conmcb25
Get rid of them and move on.


After some discussion team Southern Cross agrees.

If the Goonies have no player they need to be removed from the game.

Not AI'd - removed.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Nugog


After some discussion team Southern Cross agrees.

If the Goonies have no player they need to be removed from the game.

Not AI'd - removed.

indeed

[conmcb25]

Nuke em till they glow

Shoot em in the dark

[Beta]

Originally posted by IanDC
Can't We just throw it open first ? See if there's anybody out there willing to play it either on their own or as a group.
We don't know how it will change the game removing them, it could give an extra chunk of free land to somebody or remove another teams only close potential trade partner etc.

I am with Ian on this one. I find that eliminating a civ is almost as unbalancing as letting the AI run it, for the reason Ian mentioned.

But if no one comes forward to take it over (has anyone tried recruiting??? - if not - I will...), then I favour nuking over the AI.

Give me a few days to see if I can rustle up some new players.

[conmcb25]

Game on just eliminate em

Or end the game.

I dont want band aids, I want progress.............

:p

[Keygen]

I would say switch to AI for a week or so, and if nobody's interested at taking over the Goonies then retire the respective civ.

It's that simple :)

[eden5900]

I'll be the pinata! Sign me up.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by eden5900
I'll be the pinata! Sign me up.

hope you are in for the long haul

and welcome

[eden5900]

No problem with the long haul. I have games at landgrab.net (risk clone) that have 20 players and 72 hour turn settings. I'll be playing that game until about 2010, and need something else to keep me busy!

[Paddy]

bloody fantastic

hope you enjoy this one :b:

[RobWorham]

Welcome eden5900 and enjoy!!!! :b: :D :b:

[Nugog]

Welcome aboard!

:D

[Zoid]

:dance:

[Keygen]

:)

Welcome aboard :b:

[Beta]

Yes indeed! Welcome eden! Thanks for reading and responding to my advertisement. :D

You responded first so you get to be team leader. :b:

Giwi is also interested in joining, so your team now has two members. Most teams in here have a handful or so of players - except for maybe Stratega where DaveS is handling it.

But it is great to have you involved. :)

Now, we need to get you:

1. the game connection info and password
2. the civ password (and again - feel free to change the name of the civ - even to Pinatas if you want. :D )
3. access to the forum
4. and authorization access for that forum - or at least access to a member who has that.

The game is down for a bit while snoop gets through Thanksgiving weekend.

[Paddy]

great work Beta :b: :b:

and welcome to Giwi :D

bloody marvelous to have an new team

[AAHZ]

i will still be a consultant if that is ok. i know the password and have forum access, i just cannot log in to the game myself. I do not have authority to GRANT access however. Please PM Unorthodox if you have not already.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by eden5900
I'll be the pinata! Sign me up.

And did you bring at least one and preferably more back up players with you?

[Giwi]

Hey, I'll have to read this theard this afternoon.

[Beta]

Ok - eden5900 and Giwi, please join the Goonies civgroup above this forum. Just click on the blue 'join' next to the Goonies name and avatar.

I will PM UnOrthOdOx to get him to authorize you, and to pass on on to you the password for the civ.

(Will also PM eden5900 and Giwi)

(edit) Done, done, and done.

[Beta]

eden and Giwi.

New host address information will be coming soon.

The game password is tyde.

Any other questions, don't hesitate to shout.

[Beta]

Got a PM from UnO that eden has been authorized for the team and has access to the save password. :b:

Now - all we need is the game going. :(

[ChrisiusMaximus]

Beta well done for your efforts to keep this alive im sure its only a last little step needed to be taken now.

[astrologix]

Where are those new Goonies ? :confused:

[Zoid]

The ghost of One Eyed Willie must've got them... :scared:

[Paddy]

opps - missing Goonies!!!!

whatever has the world come too :lol:

[conmcb25]

Ill I am going to say is I told you all so :p

[UnOrthOdOx]

Hey folks, people authorized to the goonies.

Sorry, but I had some **** happen in RL that made this pace of pitboss too much for me to be able to follow, so I had to let this game slide. Didn't know goonies had all dropped out.

Unfortunately, the pace would still be too much for me to play or I'ld just do it.

Something about radical job changes and adding a baby to the houshold has changed how I'm able to play. Funny how that happens.

[Beta]

Not a problem UnO. Understood. :b:

Giwi got authorized???

[Giwi]

Yes I did get authorized, thank you very much.

[astrologix]

Welcome, Giwi :b:

FYI, the game is registered on CivStats. Thanks to this pitboss related site, all players can know the real time game status and other useful informations :

The game name is Civ4WDG.

http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=743

You will need to register yourself first as a personal player. Go to 'Create Account' in the above right corner.

Once the process finished, you can register 'your game's leader', the password is the first main word of your team's name.

[Beta]

Oh yes. Thanks Astro. :b: I completely forgot about civstats in my explanantion to Giwi.

[Giwi]

Thank you, I have registered the team at civstats.

[Beta]

Originally posted by Giwi
Thank you, I have registered the team at civstats.

Giwi! :b: :love:

[Paddy]

yeah well done Giwi :b:

[AAHZ]

i have just withdrawn as a member of The Goonies. Sorry.

good luck ev1 :b:

[Paddy]

Originally posted by AAHZ
i have just withdrawn as a member of The Goonies. Sorry.

good luck ev1 :b:

trust all is well

and that we see you in the next game :)

[GeoModder]

I have an announcement to make. ;)

Starting this weekend I'm on vacation for 2-3 weeks. So the Phoenician civ (formerly known as the Goonies) won't be played during that time. I don't think I'll find internet hubs that allow me to log on with my portable. There's no substitute player so that's the way things are.

[RobWorham]

Have a good vacation!!!

Hope your civ is still there when you get back........ ;)

[astrologix]

Originally posted by GeoModder
I have an announcement to make. ;)

Starting this weekend I'm on vacation for 2-3 weeks. So the Phoenician civ (formerly known as the Goonies) won't be played during that time. I don't think I'll find internet hubs that allow me to log on with my portable. There's no substitute player so that's the way things are.

Thanks for your announcement. I think 2-3 weeks is too long to let your civ without pilot. Then, i'll convert it to an AI until your come back.

[GeoModder]

I queued things up, and it will probably only be 2 weeks, 8 turns thus for an 48 hour timer.
I don't think converting to an AI is necessary. :(

[astrologix]

OK :b:

[Nugog]

Originally posted by RobWorham
Have a good vacation!!!

Hope your civ is still there when you get back........ ;)

:nod:

:evil:

[GeoModder]

:lol:
First you must find me, and the only one who knows where I am is quite AWOL himself. :p

[GeoModder]

I'm back from the beaten track. The Sanchuniaton civ will have my full attention again until the next vacation. :D

[conmcb25]

Welcome back :)

[astrologix]

Snoopy is 17 turns without playing. I find it a little 'hard'.

I know : I'm not going to convert you to an AI...

:(

[astrologix]

If I understand correctly the CivStats records, eirich is at war with snoopy, who is doing NOTHING against him and consequently eirich are beating a civ with virtually no costs.

IMO this is clearly unbalancing the game and I should convert him to an AI.

What do you say, folks ?

[Paddy]

well yes it should have been turned to ai a long time ago, but that did not happen, they have been allowed to just ignore their lands and this game for in excess of 20 turns in a row now

so if they are allowed to be apathetic in their turns, why allow the ai to save them

personally I would have prefer to see their civ removed, but have been through that discussion too many times, so we decided to do something about it using the game mechanics, not the forums

to quote one of our lads "if the much lauded staff of this site do not have the kahooners to play the save then they need to be removed"

war was not declared till your post that they had missed 17 turns in a row

we waited a turn or two more

sent a message of our intent

then began a slow march through their lands

"decimation of the ones who hold up the game through apathy" is our motto for this war

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z243/paddythescot/DSC00433.jpg

[conmcb25]

This game is a Travesty

No offense to you and yours Paddy.

[Zoid]

I'm perfectly happy to let Eirich gobble up Snoopy, but it's easy to be generous from the top of the score table... ;)

[astrologix]

IMO eirich should raze all the Snoopy conquered cities.

[Zoid]

I don't think we can force him to do this. This is the nature of DG´s, somtimes **** happens...

[conmcb25]

More power to Paddy and his merry band

But this game is still a travesty.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by conmcb25
More power to Paddy and his merry band

But this game is still a travesty.


and so say all of us

:Party:

[Keygen]

I think we should let UDD have a share too but that is up to Paddy now :b:

[Paddy]

UDD, come join the party

we quite happy for that


"decimation of the ones who hold up the game through apathy" is our motto for this war

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by astrologix
Snoopy is 17 turns without playing. I find it a little 'hard'.

I know : I'm not going to convert you to an AI...

:(

Go ahead and do so, I still can't get Warlords working... sorry about this, thought it would be Vista compatible. Apparently not 100% (Even though Vanilla and BTS work fine...)

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Zoid
I'm perfectly happy to let Eirich gobble up Snoopy,

:b:

Not the best - but stuff happens.

AI them and let the surrounding teams squabble over the spoils............



;)

[astrologix]

Originally posted by snoopy369


Go ahead and do so, I still can't get Warlords working... sorry about this, thought it would be Vista compatible. Apparently not 100% (Even though Vanilla and BTS work fine...)

Snoopy's civ is now an AI :b:

[Paddy]

Originally posted by snoopy369


Go ahead and do so, I still can't get Warlords working... sorry about this, thought it would be Vista compatible. Apparently not 100% (Even though Vanilla and BTS work fine...)

how strange - I play this game on vista all the time

sorry to see your civ go this way, but life is like that
we always hoped that once we found you as neighbours that we would have a most epic war across centuries, but that was not meant to be

well your lads are accounting of themselves very well

those cats and war elephants are a nuisance indeed

[Paddy]

dp

[proviisori]

Could the UDD-nation be turned into AI, please?

I'm moving to Japan in 1,5 weeks and I don't think there is active members in our team to continue.

[astrologix]

If there is not other solution available, yes, of course.

From now ?

[astrologix]

Turn 1808 AD :

As requested, UDD has been converted into an AI.

[proviisori]

of course if someone will volunteer to play the civ, you can give it to her/him

[Zoid]

Southern Cross/Eirich could take it off your hands if you like... :cute:

[GeoModder]

Southern Cross/Eirich could take it off your hands if you like... :cute:

You're spoiling for a war with the Delian League?!! :eek:

[Zoid]

Not really. We have enough on our hands right now, but we're always keen to extend our empire :nod:

[astrologix]

It seems that Delian League is not playing since April 24.

Some members of my team think that one more team under an AI will definately kill this game :(

.

[RobWorham]

Shall we call it a day and declare The Maoris the winners!!! :rockon:

[Nugog]

Shall we call it a day and declare The Maoris the winners!!! :rockon:


:cute:

[GeoModder]

:lol:

[Zoid]

Shall we call it a day and declare The Maoris the winners!!! :rockon:

I could live with that... :D

[Paddy]

:cool:

must admit the game has many issues...

so we finally calling this one? a win for the Moaris.... :b:

[RobWorham]

:unworthy:

[GeoModder]

so we finally calling this one? a win for the Moaris.... :b:

Wait a minute! Aren't you by any chance a vassal from the Maori's, meaning you don't have a say anymore? :doitnow!:

[Zoid]

But he's such a good vassal! :welldone:

:cute:

[Magno_uy]

SpamYard team had declare this game ended consequence of the lack of interest that many teams had demonstrated during it. We do not had more intentions of dedicating time to it and this include the host of the game, Astro.

We are very disappointed with the members of some teams had disappear. We in spamyard team there had been always at least 4 players available and helping.

We consider that there's had been no winner because he game was still in earlys years of it. So, although some civ had a better performance by now, that still do not guarantee to win this game.

Just for the record, if you someday take part of a demo/team game, just make sure that you are really planning to play it, at least to show a little of respect to those that had dedicated so many time to it. As Astro had. And if you had or want to leave it, at least take the task of finding someone to replace you.


Had a nice day.
Magno of the spamyard team.

[GeoModder]

Well, if my good ally SY throws the towel in the ring, all I can do is follow suit. :)

[Zoid]

SpamYard team had declare this game ended consequence of the lack of interest that many teams had demonstrated during it. We do not had more intentions of dedicating time to it and this include the host of the game, Astro.

We are very disappointed with the members of some teams had disappear. We in spamyard team there had been always at least 4 players available and helping.

We consider that there's had been no winner because he game was still in earlys years of it. So, although some civ had a better performance by now, that still do not guarantee to win this game.

Just for the record, if you someday take part of a demo/team game, just make sure that you are really planning to play it, at least to show a little of respect to those that had dedicated so many time to it. As Astro had. And if you had or want to leave it, at least take the task of finding someone to replace you.


Had a nice day.
Magno of the spamyard team.

Don't be bitter Magno, I think it's inevitable that interest will wane over the course of 3 years (I don't even remember when we started), and it's impossible to demand that people stay for the duration. A lot of things can happen in three years. The fact that we got the wrong size map and a few false starts (not to mention patch troubles) didn't help either. I think it was a good game and I'm not saying that just because the Maoris won :p

[conmcb25]

Don't be bitter Magno, I think it's inevitable that interest will wane over the course of 3 years (I don't even remember when we started), and it's impossible to demand that people stay for the duration. A lot of things can happen in three years. The fact that we got the wrong size map and a few false starts (not to mention patch troubles) didn't help either. I think it was a good game and I'm not saying that just because the Maoris won :p

Thats kind of a cop out, if teams don't start with multiple turn players who at least plan on sticking around for a few years, then they shouldn't be a team.

I had a feeling that the 10 or 11 teams we had was a recipe for disaster, and I was right.

And we had people dropping and not playing all along, it didn't just start recently.

[Zoid]

That's kind of elitist? Don't you think? I say that all who want to play should be given the chance. I'd rather have a few people drop out than have games with über-committed Civ nazis who b1tch and moan when people lose interest for one reason or another...

[conmcb25]

That's kind of elitist? Don't you think? I say that all who want to play should be given the chance. I'd rather have a few people drop out than have games with über-committed Civ nazis who b1tch and moan when people lose interest for one reason or another...


Now Im a Nazi? OK, great way to reply. Or inother words: "I don't have a good counter arguement so lets resort to name calling"

Some of us don't like spending YEARS working on a game and having it end because the people who thought it was a good idea to begin with can't be bothered to satify there initial commitments.

This problem could have been easily solved by limiting the number of teams, and concentrating potential turn players on fewer teams.

How does that limit people who want to play? So instead of 11 teams having one or maybe two turnplayers, 5 or 6 teams have 3 or 4 turnplayers.......

Everyone is still playing :p

Thats all Im going to contribute on this subject, because your attitude is the reason why Demo Games never finish around here, or in most cases even get close.

[Zoid]

Now Im a Nazi? OK, great way to reply. Or inother words: "I don't have a good counter arguement so lets resort to name calling"

Some of us don't like spending YEARS working on a game and having it end because the people who thought it was a good idea to begin with can't be bothered to satify there initial commitments.

This problem could have been easily solved by limiting the number of teams, and concentrating potential turn players on fewer teams.

How does that limit people who want to play? So instead of 11 teams having one or maybe two turnplayers, 5 or 6 teams have 3 or 4 turnplayers.......

Everyone is still playing :p

Thats all Im going to contribute on this subject, because your attitude is the reason why Demo Games never finish around here, or in most cases even get close.

Meh, I'm just tired of whiners that whine when the other kids don't want to play anymore...

[RobWorham]

Oh well, thanks everyone for playing and making the effort.

Special thanks to Astro for hosting and all the baggage that goes with that commitment.

It was fun while it lasted........

[Nugog]

If this game is over - well thanks everyone who played this far.

And Astro - a big :b: and :unworthy: to you.

Thanks for being a brilliant host.

[astrologix]

If this game is over - well thanks everyone who played this far.

And Astro - a big :b: and :unworthy: to you.

Thanks for being a brilliant host.

Thankyou :) It was for me a pleasure to host this game ;)

I would like to give some personal thoughts about DG games (I've yet played some in this forum) :

The paces of those DG are too slow and tend to naturally kill the games, because increasingly lack of interest, players quitting, etc. For me, the ideal pace is 1 turn/24 hours, set automatically to 48 hours/turn in case of wars (with a dedicated mod which shorts the remain time when the first team at war has played) . In this manner, games last about 1 and a half year (It's my experience with individual multiplayer pitboss games).

The teams should be formed only by guys who are close between. It better garantees long term playing. Only few known and serious teams should be admitted to play.

For DG games, only pangea (or close to pangea) maps should be taken, because more wars and more interest : the map chosen for this C4WDG was clearly a mistake.

And finally, thanks to you, guys, who have played the game until this unfortunate end :b:

[Nugog]

Teams need available players.

That is the big problem.

If teams had a number of players from the start - not so many issues IMO.

The problem with restrictions is it becomes an "old boys club" and new players feel stifled.

Southern Cross missed maybe 2 or 3 turns in the entire game.

It is about the people - not the number of teams.

(BTW - RobWorham and Zoid = :unworthy: )

The problem with 1 turn every 24 hours - then your team members need to be in the same timezones.

Using Southern Cross as an example, we were in NZ, PNG, Portugal and Sweden. No way we could discuss turns in a 24 hr turn period.

Anyway - thanks to all. It was fun while it lasted.

Oh - yeah - and we were going to win.

:nod:

[IanDC]

I guess if it's over then SC are ahead on points so are the winners - congrats to you :b:

I have to say PAL (being me due to everyone else moving on to BTS) hadn't given up hope of victory yet :)

[RobWorham]

Thanks Ian, we were looking forward to a tight endgame with you guys.......

[Nugog]

:zzz:Thanks Ian, we were looking forward to a tight endgame with you guys.......


Indeed.

It was shaping up to be a great endgame.

Oh well.........

[Keygen]

I'm very sorry to see this game ending prematurely :(

I'm not sure if my sudden disappearance led to that decision, if it did you have my apology.

I've moved to a new house and had to wait for over a month for the line to be transferred (I thought it would take a few days) so I had no access to the Internet from home. To add to all this I got pretty sick during the past 3 weeks or so, I spent some of this time at home, mostly in bed. I should had informed you of this but I guess I was pretty occupied packing up back then.

My interest for this game never fade out, and I'm still pretty interested but I presume it is too late...