3 players for a PBEM game

[MortVader]

Hello.

I'm looking for 3 people for a PBEM game.

It will be a duel size map (the smallest) with the "Great Plains" mapscript. 4 human players total. No AI's.

Since this will be my very first multiplayer Civ experience, I'd prefer if not only pro's sign up ;)

All settings will be standard.

/Morten a.k.a. MortVader

The players:
MortVader (Kublai Khan)
polarnomad (Peter)
marcsterix (random)
John-SJ (Napoleon)

[John-SJ]

Hi,

Sure, I'll join in on the fun. Should we pick leaders, or will you be setting the game up with random leaders?

[MortVader]

Hmm yeah, pick your leaders & supply your emailadresses (maybe you should do that by PM, or at least obscure it)

I think I will go for Kublai Khan :]~

edit: Kublai, not Ghengis :)

[John-SJ]

All right then, I will choose Napolean this time, and my email address is:

jdulleck (at) pacbell (dot) net

[marcsterix]

Hey sure, I'll join in also.

I'll take a random leader.

I'm marco at rentalrobots dot com

Later

:zzz:

[MortVader]

Excellent :)

Now we just need the last one!

[polarnomad]

What the heck! I've never tried a PBEM, so... bare with me if I screw it all up! ;) (ie: someone'd better explain how it works...)

I'll pick Peter. I however would prefer to PM my email to you. Which I will do directly after posting this.

Am prepared to be beaten!:cute:

EDIT: um, silly me... Do I need to send PMs to all of the involved players with my email, or is one PM to MortVader going to suffice? (You guys are probably thinking, "Oh boy! This'll be a fun game!")

[MortVader]

And we're off! ;D

I've made my turn and sent it off to John-SJ.

I've never tried a PBEM either. Not in Civ, anyways.
You can open your turns by clicking directly on the file attachment, when your turn arrives by email.

If for some reason (fx. hotmail?) it dont work; deploy the file somewhere you can find it: example C:\saves or whereever. Then load the game from Civ. When you've done your turn, it will send automaticly. You do have to provide your smtp server to do that, though. But this should be a one time thing, I hope?

Click ALT-D ingame to enter your smtp-server information. Also don't forget to create a password in this section, so that you can feel certain that only YOU will open your turns.

Edit for Polarnomad: It was enough that I got your mail-address ;)

[polarnomad]

Ok, thx. I'll let you know if I have trouble.

[John-SJ]

Mort,

I am at work right now but I just checked my email, I have not yet received your turn. Are you sure the turn was sent cuccessfully?

[MortVader]

Yeah.. at least it said so ingame. I will resend the turn manually right away!

Oh, and when you get it, maybe you can check if I misspelled your email ingame? (ALT-D)

/Morten

[John-SJ]

Okay, I got the second one, and it appears to have arrived right on the heals of the first. Oh well, the first email seemed to have been a little slow I guess.

I will play this when I get home from work. :)

[polarnomad]

Shall be interesting to see how this game will work out since we'll be sending it back and forth across the pond.

@John-SJ: I'm not sure what order it's going to go in, but if you still can control who it goes to after you, perhaps marcsterix should be next in line. That way it only crosses timezones half as often.

EDIT: Although, now that I look at the time associated with marcsterix's username I wonder if he actually is on your side of the pond... UK?

2nd EDIT: marcsterix corrected his timezone! ;)

[marcsterix]

What?? you don't have CIV loaded at work??? :eek:

[John-SJ]

From previous PBEM games I know that the turn order is already set, when I save the turn it will have the name of the next player on it already.

That being said, it is still not too late (if we agree that we should) to restart the game with turn order taking time zones into account.

If we should decide to restart, I am GMT - 8, U.S. Pacific time.

[MortVader]

The turncycle is set in stone:

1. MortVader (Kublai Khan)
2. John-SJ (Napoleon)
3. marcsterix (random)
4. polarnomad (Peter)

[marcsterix]

That's fine with me...I'm Central US Standard time...

[John-SJ]

Originally posted by marcsterix
What?? you don't have CIV loaded at work??? :eek:

LOL! No, sorry, I do consider keeping my job somewhat important. :D

[MortVader]

Okay, I will redo the turncycle right away!

[marcsterix]

Actually that would work, because me and John can play our turns one after the other during the day (well, one of us can :) ) in US times zone, and you guys play consecutively during European Time zone... It's not going back and forth more than once a round!

yey
:)

[John-SJ]

Actually, it is maybe a little better if marc and I were reversed in order since marc is 2 hours later than me.

Now and then (on weekdays) I may complete a turn in late afternoon, but most often it will be probably around mid evening, after I get some dinner.

[marcsterix]

Actually, I'm Central time...and I generally play during work :P (well, I can squeeze a turn during daytime).

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by MortVader
Okay, I will redo the turncycle right away!

The current turncycle seems to work out just fine, so no need to change anything.:)

EDIT: Ignore this post... I somehow missed that John-SJ suggested a switch in turn order.

[MortVader]

Okay then! :)

So I've remade the game:

1. MortVader (europe)
2. polarnomad (europe)
3. marcsterix (us)
4. John-SJ (us)

Polarnomad; the turn should be in your hands by now! :D

[polarnomad]

Yikes!!:eek:

*checks his email*

[nyy13andy]

Hi,

I'm interested in playing. I have a little multi-player experience but not much and have about 15 hours of single player time on CIV4. Howq often will you be playing turns?

Andy

[polarnomad]

Ok, feeling like a dumby here... :blush: I have the game with my turn up and running. Click ALT-D and go to input my smtp info, but then I think... erm.. hotmail...? smtp.hotmail.com?

[nyy13andy]

Didn't read the whole thread. Maybe next time.

[marcsterix]

I don't know if it will work if you try sending it through hotmail...CIV has a lot of issues when trying to send email in-game...

[polarnomad]

I have another email account for which I know the smtp server info. Can I just input that? Or do I need to change the email address from the hotmail to that one too?

[MortVader]

Originally posted by polarnomad
I have another email account for which I know the smtp server info. Can I just input that?

Yes! :)

[polarnomad]

Woot! It worked! You're up marcsterix!:D

[marcsterix]

I got it ok and sent it off to John :)

[John-SJ]

:(
Uh, something is wrong. I got the turn from marc, played it, and when I saved the turn it asked me to send it to marc.

Here is the save file here, but I believe it should be going to MortVader, right?

[MortVader]

That must be a bug :(

But when I opened the file, the turn WAS for me.. :P
Next time you finish your turn, see if you can remember changing the email-send-to-adress to mine (civ-at-mortenlassen-dot-dk) when it pops up right before sending.

Polarnomad, you're up!

[polarnomad]

marcsterix is next!

[marcsterix]

ok, it's off to John. :)

All I have to say, is I gotta lotta cows around here.

[MortVader]

So quit your thoughts on world domination, and start a cattle-franchise instead ;D

[John-SJ]

Houston, we have a problem.

This time when I took my turn (player John-sj) I was asked to send my turn to JOHND. I am posting a screenshot of this, I understand that I am revealing my start position, but, so be it.

Shouldn't we just start over anyway?

[polarnomad]

JOHND? :confused: Who kidnapped MortVader? :lol:

[John-SJ]

LOL!

The strange thing that I forgot to mention, JOHND is my computer's name, and my default profile name in CIV.

[MortVader]

Well, I vote we continue.

It appears that there are still bugs in civ. But when I loaded the turn, everything looked right. Except that John-SJ has a warrior just outside my borders :)~

[polarnomad]

Well geez... This sure is a small map! I knew it was going to be small, but this is crazy.:scared:

You're up marcsterix.

[MortVader]

Yeah, we used to do this in another 4x game I played years ago (called Stars!). Extremely tiny map compared to amount of players. Always makes for an interesting yet not terribly prolonged game.

[John-SJ]

OMG! Stars!?

I used to love that game! Seldom played PBEM though. One of my biggest disappointments in gaming was that the Stars! 2 project died. I was so looking forward to playing that one. :(

Oh, and, Howdy Neighbor! :D

[MortVader]

Yir yir! Stars was an EXCELLENT 4x game. The AI sucked bigtime though. But the simultaneous execution model was far superior to the old fashioned modes that CIV uses.

Don't misunderstand me, though. I AM a great fan of CIV. ;)

But heck yeah; it was a disaster when the supernova project died.. :´(

[Chirurgie]

I am interested in joining. Played Civ original a long time ago, dabbled with Civ 2 and never played Civ 3 or CTP. Just started Civ 4 a few days ago and more than happy to try PBEM Multiplayer. PM or better still message me on MSN cersei69@hotmail.com or yahoo otcie

[polarnomad]

Sorry mate the game has already started. Keep your eyes open for the next one.:)

[John-SJ]

Turn to MortVader

[marcsterix]

Wow, I didn't realize it was that small of a map...I think this will be really interesting :)

By the way, I have to say orginizing the order of play between us seems to have really made a difference...wish I had considered that when starting up my other pbem game...

[MortVader]

polarnomad, you're next!

[polarnomad]

Neeeext!:)

[marcsterix]

Nassssssty little scouts about...Next.

[John-SJ]

Hey Marco, could you check the status of your last email to me? I got a new turn for the MARCO game, but not for this one.

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by marcsterix
Nassssssty little scouts about...Next.

Ooooh just out for a little stroll... enjoying the fine weather we have. You built any drive-thru burger joints yet? :cute: All the hiking has me feeling just a tad peckish.

[MortVader]

Marcsterix, please resend. I think John-SJ is still waiting!

[marcsterix]

Oops sorry guys! I didn't realize I sent him the wrong game! It turns out that John_SJ plays after me in the other pbem game we're in (and it's the same date also!).

My bad :(

I set the correct one now

[John-SJ]

Received, played, and forwarded to MortVader.

[MortVader]

..and bouncing on to polarnomad..

[polarnomad]

coming your way marcsterix

[marcsterix]

right back at John

[polarnomad]

back across the atlantic

[marcsterix]

another go in the same day!

[John-SJ]

And back across again, to MortVader

[MortVader]

and round again.. i'm getting all dizzy here :P

[polarnomad]

:b:

[marcsterix]

it's pretty quick

[John-SJ]

'round 'n' 'round.

[MortVader]

to be continued

[polarnomad]

on to marcsterix

[marcsterix]

:)

[MortVader]

:lol:

[polarnomad]

onwards

[marcsterix]

again

[MortVader]

So, tell me a bit about yourselves.
I'm Morten. 34 years old. Living with my wife and daughter (3 yrs) in Vadum, Denmark. Played civ since the first incarnation, but never tried a multiplayer before this one.

[polarnomad]

Hello Morten! I'm Sergio. 30 years old. Half Finn, half Yank. Moved back to Finland from California about 2 1/2 years ago. Live alone and work as an on-call truck driver. Played CivI some back in high school, later alot of CtP. Currently regretting a stupid decision I made in the first turn of this game!:rolleyes:

[marcsterix]

Hey guys, I'm 33 Italian living in Texas...just moved back here from Italy. This is my first time playing a pbem (well, I have another civ4 pbem going concurrently with this one...but started almost at the same time).

Before civ came out on the computer, there was a Civilization board game published by Avalon Hill I played a few times with some friends...I'm glad I got a chance to play head to head with other ppl at this game after so much time....although I'm regretting my choice of [random] civ now... :(

PS, hey Sergio...wheres my turn? :)

Marco

[polarnomad]

You didn't get it? I'll play my turn again. Sorry for the delay.

EDIT: Ok, I sent you another one. Hope it works... Weird.

[marcsterix]

Actually I got it a few minutes after you posted your reply, but then I got caught up in work and forgot to update the forum! sorry...anyway John should have it already...

:D

[polarnomad]

Ok, cool.:)

I agree that it is nice to play against other people. As for regretting your choice of random civ... I don't think Peter was the best choice for a duel map with 4 players either, so... we'll just hash it out anyway!;)

[John-SJ]

On to Mortvader

[MortVader]

done

[polarnomad]

:b:

[polarnomad]

Hey Morten, for some reason I got a second copy of turn 3600BC (yesterday's) from you this morning.

[MortVader]

yes, I got that same thing from John, so.. couldn't think of better thing to do at this hour of day :P

[John-SJ]

:)
I checked my received emails, I recieved the 3640 BC save on both Tuesday and Wednesday. No matter.

Hey, MortVader, the patch is out. How shall we coordinate the use of the patch so that we transition smoothly?

[MortVader]

Hmm.. I am not sure. I vote we install the patch, and see what happens... ?

Come to think of it.. we simply have to install the patch, all of us. I dont think any of us are interested in NOT installing it until this game is finished. IF the game doesn't work after patching, we must start over... your views?

[John-SJ]

Agreed. If that is the prevailing view, should the next to play just install it and post here that save_nnnn is with the patch so we will know that now is the time to install it?

[MortVader]

yes sir!

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by MortVader
yes, I got that same thing from John, so.. couldn't think of better thing to do at this hour of day :P

:cute: OK, should I play my turn again? ;)

*downloads the patch, and waits for signal*

[polarnomad]

Seems I'm not the only one trying to download this patch... Gonna take a while. :)

[MortVader]

yeah. I say install the patch, make your turn and let's all do the same. See what happens... :)

[polarnomad]

um... you mean redo my turn from yesterday?

[MortVader]

Yeah. The latest one you got ;)

[polarnomad]

Farfegnüggen! Since I've installed the patch it won't let me get past my password... so I can't even access the game to redo my turn. :rolleyes:

[polarnomad]

Y'all went kind of quiet on me...

*checks your pulses*

[MortVader]

oh great.. so we start over. Is everybody still with us, then? That is, you all want to start over? Same specs. Choose your new leaders if you want.

I think I'll take Cyrus this time over..

[polarnomad]

Sure I'm willing to start over. I'll take Catherine this time. Can we change the map size to tiny though? If you'd rather not that's fine too.

[MortVader]

I prefer duel-size since it will make the game relatively short (this IS pbem). I will go with tiny though, if the majority wants it.

[polarnomad]

I see your point.:b:

[MortVader]

but where did the american-flag guys go?

[marcsterix]

Hmmm, I just played my turn before applying the patch...then I installed the patch...then I read this post. Oops.

Anyway, I don't think it should affect the save, but it would be a good idea for everyone to upgrade anyway.

Happy Thanksgiving (belated).

[polarnomad]

So, then the turn would be with John-SJ...

@John-SJ: Did you apply the patch? If so, are you able to access the save?

[John-SJ]

Okay, I have not installed the patch yet until I found what is going on with PBEM games. It doesn't sound good.

But I am not willing to put off the patch indefinitely for PBEM games (I am involved in others besides this one) because I see a real benefit to my single player games as well.

So, I will try an experiment. I will attempt to open and play the save pre-patch, then apply the patch and repeat the experiment.

Oh, and I have no problem restarting this game if it will be restarted as a patch-player game.

[John-SJ]

:mad: :mad: :mad:
Well, I get the same thing. After the patch I cannot get beyond the password prompt.

If we are going to restart, I suppose there is no real reason to pass on the unpatched save, right?

There is one thing that might be worth trying. Can the game admin reset the password of each player to no password? I doubt it will work but it might be worth a try.

*SIGH*

[MortVader]

Well, there is nothing I can do either... :P I can't even load my turn after patching..

Tell me what leaders you want for the restart, and I'll setup the game.. again..

[John-SJ]

Okay, I will stick with Napoleon, thanks. :)

[MortVader]

1. MortVader (Cyrus)
2. polarnomad (Catherine)
3. marcsterix (Kublai Khan)
4. John-SJ (Napoleon)

So who will it be, marcsterix? I take it NOT rnd this time? ;)

[marcsterix]

Kublai Khan, I had set a pw too, so restart it is... :D

(I was about to be beaten to a pulp anyway... :))

[MortVader]

Ok, I've now restarted the game. Same turn-order as before, leaders was chosen as you can see 2 posts up.

I forgot choosing the "great-plains" script, so we are playing the "balanced" one. I hope you don't mind. I didn't want to enter all the player details again, for that. As you may know, this means that now the world is round. Not flat like before ;)

polarnomad has the ball!

[polarnomad]

*lobs it over the pond to marcsterix*

[marcsterix]

pass to John

[John-SJ]

And back to Morten.

Heh, I like the game name, "Killbox". Is that a reference to the sub-timy map size? :)

[MortVader]

yeah ;)

*boing*

[polarnomad]

:b:

[marcsterix]

Ok, I REALLY gonna get creamed this time...

[John-SJ]

Another prime start, Marco? ;)

3920 B.C. passed to Morten.

[MortVader]

:cool:

[polarnomad]

onwards

[marcsterix]

oops, sorry for not updating, but I did send my turn yesterday

[MortVader]

got it this morning, passed it on already ;)

[polarnomad]

And over to Marco.

[marcsterix]

:b:

[John-SJ]

And back across the pond it goes...

[MortVader]

goto finland!

[polarnomad]

Not received anything yet.

[MortVader]

I've now resent it to you!

[polarnomad]

Thx for the resend. Got it, played it, passed it on!

[John-SJ]

Marc, are you around?

[MortVader]

maaaarc?

[marcsterix]

Sorry guys I was slammed most of yesterday and today...I'm passing it on now

[John-SJ]

*tosses turn back to Mort*
(SPLASH!)
Oops!
*tosses turn a little harder*
(thump)
Ah, that's better!

[MortVader]

What a rough wakeupcall.. :angry:

Well.. goodmorning gentlemen :)

Turn going to Finland rightaway instantly immediately!!

[polarnomad]

Just wandered in from my night shift. Played my turn. Now to bed. "Shoo warrior! Shoo!";)

[marcsterix]

Hmm there's marauding warriors around, eh???

go J go! :)

[John-SJ]

That's funny! I haven't seen any marauding warriors about. And I'm out lookin' for 'em too! :D

Turn back to Morten.

[MortVader]

some scouting about.. polarnomad's on!

[polarnomad]

:) :b:

[marcsterix]

onwards!

[John-SJ]

Back 'round to Morten.

[MortVader]

faster, faster!

[polarnomad]

Dang, I must have just gone to bed when you sent the turn to me last night... Well, here it is.

[marcsterix]

Another day, and another 40 years go by...

[MortVader]

polarguy; you're up!

[John-SJ]

Ditto Marc, on it goes

[MortVader]

erh.. i got 3680BC again.. :P same as the last one!

[polarnomad]

:b:

[marcsterix]

:D

[MortVader]

NOW it's you John-SJ ;D

[John-SJ]

Not sure what happenend there, but anyway, just sent 3640 BC to you Morten.

[MortVader]

thanks. I sent the turn right on to PN!

[polarnomad]

*points at marcsterix*

[marcsterix]

:b:

[marcsterix]

just a heads-up. I'll be out of town till Wednesday...so I might not be able to play a turn till then. Sorry :(

[MortVader]

roger that. until then, PN can think this turn thoroughly over :)

[polarnomad]

Thoroughly thought through... and hopes lousy wolf won't eat him!

[marcsterix]

back on track!
:)

I'm looking down big bad bears throat...not a pretty sight.

[John-SJ]

3560 BC to MortVader

[MortVader]

*bounce*

[polarnomad]

*enjoys roasted wolf meat* Yum!;)

EDIT: So Marco, did you have a good trip?

[marcsterix]

off to j

trip went well, thanks! :)

[John-SJ]

And now back around to Morten.

[MortVader]

..and all of a sudden, pn is up!

[polarnomad]

:b:

[marcsterix]

:b:

[MortVader]

:naughty:

[polarnomad]

:viking:

[marcsterix]

Hey Polar, for some reason, I didn't recieve my turn yesterday...could you send it again? Thanks!
:)

[marcsterix]

Oops, nevermind. I just found it buried under all the other mail!

On to John.

[MortVader]

-> polarnomad <-

[MortVader]

halloooooo?

[polarnomad]

Hi! :) I played my turn yesterday and passed it on, just didn't post here.

[polarnomad]

Got your mail Mort, did you send me a new turn today?

[MortVader]

Nope. it was still the same one. I just thought it was you who we were waiting for. Apparantly not though..

[John-SJ]

Don't look at me. ;)

The most recent I received (yesterday) was 3480 BD from Marco, and sent 3440 BC yesterday as well.

[marcsterix]

I just played 3440, I might have been the hang up, sorry.

[John-SJ]

3400 BC to MortVader

[MortVader]

processed

[polarnomad]

off to marcsterix

[marcsterix]

3400 BC :b:

[John-SJ]

Next! :D

[MortVader]

d-o-n-e

[polarnomad]

move along now folks

[marcsterix]

3360BC :b:

[MortVader]

:eager:

[polarnomad]

This map is... :hmmm: Interesting.

[marcsterix]

3320BC :b:

[MortVader]

interesting.. as in small?

[polarnomad]

No, that's not what I was thinking... ;)

[marcsterix]

3320BC :confused: (last time it was 3320BC...).

I sent it again before I realized...I think I opened the wrong one...you'll be getting two turns John, sorry

3280BC :b:

[MortVader]

3240

[polarnomad]

:b:

I mean interesting that sailing is actually going to come in handy on a duel map...:cute:

[MortVader]

yeah, it apears so!

[marcsterix]

Yep, I already feel cramped here...

3240BC :b:

[MortVader]

:dance:

[polarnomad]

:tongue:

[marcsterix]

Break out the incense, baby! Who's your Hindu-daddy??
3200BC :b:

[marcsterix]

3160BC :b:

[MortVader]

!

[polarnomad]

:cool:

[marcsterix]

3120BC :b:

[MortVader]

go on then!

[marcsterix]

3080BC :b:

You know, it would be cool if we could set a time where we all get online to play some of these turns out quickly. Like right now, I've explored as much as I can...all I'm doing is passing turns till my next unit comes out :(

[polarnomad]

Merry Christmas all you guys! So, are we going to continue this game after the Christmas break? or is there something amiss?

[marcsterix]

3040BC :b:

Even with this update they still haven't fixed the emailing issue...this time it freezes up on me if I try mailing from the game... :(

[polarnomad]

When I email from within the game it pauses momentarily and then says "message sent successfully". Are you on an older computer that is just taking longer?

[MortVader]

I am temporarily offline due to an untimely ISP change. I will be back in a week or so. I'm sorry guys, but I have no choice.. :P

[MortVader]

hm. I'm back online. Is this game dead?

[marcsterix]

I don't know...I think we were waiting for your ISP change. Last turn I sent was 3040BC. Who played the last turn?

[polarnomad]

Last turn I played was 3040BC as well.

*eyes John-SJ :doitnow!:

[marcsterix]

ok, its been a while now, i've been busy but I wouldn't mind continuing this game. check to see if john will conitnue, if not you can alwayse retire his civ, Mort.

[polarnomad]

I'm still in too. :)

[MortVader]

In PBEM how is it posible to set someone inactive?

[polarnomad]

Not sure... :hmmm:

We could always start a new one... again. :idea:

[MortVader]

well, honestly.. if I were to invest my time in another pbem (where options to shift players with AI is non-existing) -it would have to be with people I know..