1799 will never be the same

[Paddy]

a napoleonic game with a few twists

4 human players - the rest AI

initially no set war agianst any particlar nation
so all set alliances to be removed

we just be europe going about its business etc

the napoleonic pbem map will have some changes

- England will give over its Portuguese holdings to Spain

- England will give over it's Naples holdings to France, Austria and the Ottoman

- Sweden will be split up between England and Prussia
thus Sweden is not a player in the game, but her land starts with two players straight up

- England gets the French Danish holdings for Amsterdam

- Settlers to be enabled :)

- Bombard option enabled on ships of the line
and possibly men-o-war
(opinions needed on this bombard issue, I just feel that with settlers on then we have plenty of growth / expension available)

you have the choice of the following nations in play order:

Russia - Czar MickeyJ

France - Prince Paddy

Britain - Lord Gunner

Ottoman - Sultan Andy


And the AI:
Austria

Spain

Prussia

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
I'm interested as well. However, a few questions.

Won't the AI players essentially be sitting ducks for the human players? I have never played a PBEM with a mix of human and AI players, but I have read there are some problems with this arrangement. I think the problems are in the "fair play" and "balance" areas.

That aside, I'm willing to give it a go. I'm interested in England, please. And fully admitting that I'm greedy and self-serving, I would like Man-o-Wars to have bombard capability.

How else am I going to soften up the Normandy beaches...oh sorry, wrong war :)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Andydog
:lol:

Unfortunately these days it's more of the bad dirty look variety than the inviting dirty look - she has just entered into her 9th month of pregnancy and can't understand why I'd rather play civ than constantly rub her feet!

However this game sounds very interesting. I'm in!

I've never played a scenario before. I tried one of the Conquests briefly and then decided I liked the stock game better.

What would the victory conditions be?
Do the civs have the same attributes as the stock game?
Are all the units and tech tree completely different?
Are there still 4 eras?
Do you start with lots of units?
Are all the civs reasonably balanced? (land, units, etc)
Are there UUs? If not then are GAs only triggered by wonders?
Does the civ pedia have all the info on wonders and units etc?

Spain looks interesting (commercial religious if I recall?)
but so do the Ottomans. What attributes does Prussia have? What choice would make for a better game for us overall?

So many questions.. ;)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner


Hmmm... let me start with the answers I know. Paddy, myself and several others played this Conquests scenario a while back -- it was a lot of fun.

Victory conditions to be set by Paddy when he mods the game, but I believe its by conquest and/or domination only. Not wonders/un/cultural (i think). Paddy can verify this when he sets up the game.

The tech tree is a bit different with some more era specific advances (Code Civil for example, which increases worker efficiency) and the game stays in one era only.

You do start with a moderate army and the civs are mostly balanced. I think the consensus is that France is a bit stronger than the others, but at the beginning, it's pretty equal. The reason for the disparity is the civ specific units are slightly different in this scenario. The size of the civs vary a bit also.

GA is initiated by UU in sucessful combat. NO major wonders, just minor wonders (like battlefield medicine).

I think Prussia is Industrious and Militaristic. And Austria is the same.

You actually get an opportunity to smartly pick a civ, as you know the location and civ abilities of the three human players.

Ottoman puts you in direct contact with Russia (mickeyj) only.
Spain puts you in direct contact with France (paddy) only.
Prussia and Austria puts you inbetween both France and Russia.

Prussia and Austria have decent militaries. I played Austria in the previous Napoleon PBEM. I like the Hussar UU.

It might be worth it for you to start a "hot seat" PBEM based on this scenario and play a few turns playing each of the different civs. If you do this, try to recall the changes that Paddy has suggested that will change the gameplay balances.

Hopefully this was useful.

Shogun Gunner

P.S. I hope you will post some pics of the new baby!!!! I hope everything is going well with your wife. It was 15 months ago that my wife gave birth to our second daughter. It's quite an event -- enjoy every moment (even the dirty looks) :lol:

[Shogun Gunner]

Posting in order to subscribe to this thread.

We Redcoats are looking forward to this game!!!!

[Paddy]

:D

so do you have any suggestions for Andy on what civ he should be

[Shogun Gunner]

no, probably the best suggestion for our friend Andydog is to play a few turns of the scenario before selecting a civ for this game.

It seems any of the four choices left are good ones.

[Paddy]

Andy, I think that you would have a great time as the mighty Ottomen. They have a great empire, some real fiesty units, and are perched comfortably in a corner of the map

this would also give the map a balanced effect with two of us on each side of the map

so are the 4 of us to be staunch and loyal allies

or is this to be a game of chance / diplomacy and the issues of life :lol:

[Mickeyj]

Looking good canna wait.

Just for the record I'm away this weekend so won't be able to get this game fired up and going.

[Paddy]

tis all good either way mate

it will be going for a while :D

[Andydog]

thanks for the answers guys.

I'll go with the Ottomans. :)

[Paddy]

cool

I may even be able to get this started tonight :lol:

well maybe :)

[Paddy]

ok, I appreciate that you lads are patient fella's

I also understand I have pushed it a bit with the 1.15 issues

well I ask now for a little patience with me on getting this game sorted

my c3c 1.22 editor is fritzed :eek: now that I am again running a dual install (1.15 & 1.22)

so I need to set all this up on the laptop

all being well I will get it done before I crash tonight

otherwaise the weekend is looking good :D

[Shogun Gunner]

Paddy, no hurry from my perspective. Take the time you need. :)

[Paddy]

ok, I am starting to build this now :D

[Andydog]

let the good times roll! :D

[Shogun Gunner]

aye :)

[Paddy]

Thank you all for your patience

Our nations in play order:

Russia - Czar MickeyJ

France - Prince Paddy

Britain - Lord Gunner

Ottoman - Sultan Andy


And the AI:
Austria
Spain
Prussia

I have sent you all your passwords

happy to restart the game if you want your own passwords :)

well the save has been sent to MickeyJ

onward roll :D

[Paddy]

Mar 1800 to Andy

[Mickeyj]

And first turn away to the mighty Paddy!!!!

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Andydog]

Paddy aren't you supposed to send to Shogun?

turn forwarded to shogun anyway.. :)

[Paddy]

opps

yeah that would be right

ahhh well opps again

glad you are on the ball :)

[Shogun Gunner]

Save to Andydog... it's going to the same address you sent me the save from...let me know if that's okay.

[Andydog]

That's the correct address, cheers shogun.

Unfortunately it isn't accepting the password supplied by Paddy. The save appears correct (its asking for an Ottomans password), and I made sure I entered it correctly.

[Paddy]

Andy

sent you a further email

if that does not work we can either:

1. restart the game

2. send me the save and a password you like, then onwards

[Andydog]

Sorted it thanks Paddy. :)

turn to Mickeyj, May 1800.

[Paddy]

cheers mate

the party rolls on then :D

[Mickeyj]

Turn Away,

[Paddy]

Mickey

turn not recieved here

could you please resend :)

[Mickeyj]

resent

[Paddy]

May 1800 to Andy


Lord Andy,

I have offered you a peace treaty

Seems you have a MPP with Spain

and they have been most annoying in dealings with my people this time - so I sent a small patrol into their lands to cut some roads etc

this caused your mpp to kick in :(

any way hope all can be sorted out soon :)

Paddy

[Shogun Gunner]

King Paddy,

It is not Lord Andy who you find yourself in a snafu with. It is I, King Shogun Gunner of England. We did not intend to come into conflict with France over our MPP with Spain. We have accepted your offer of peace and have reciprocated to you via normal diplomatic channels.

However, the nation of England would ask what France intends to do in Spain. We have interests in this region, as does France. We do not wish to see unilateral action on the Iberian pennisula. Perhaps we can come to an equitable agreement. :)

King Shogun Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

May 1800 to King Andydog

[Paddy]

Thank you Lord Gunner :D

I look forward to discussing the spainish issue with you

I must admit that I was quite un prepared for them to attack me as they did :(

I have no actual goal at this time

I have moved a small force towards them and will retaliate for their aggression into my soil and against my people

It is hoped that our Ambassadors will be able to meet in the coming days to get some resolution to this matter :)

Regards

Paddy
Marechal of France

[Paddy]

Ok has any body any issues with this game?

now is the time to speak up

if no issues I will reload v1.15 so to get easygoing & box of chocolates back on track :D

[Andydog]

The Ottomans also have interests in Spain. King Paddy, please can you detail your intentions in waring with the bull fighters of the west? Obviously we cannot have the delecate balance of power that currently exists swing towards any one country! ;)

--> Mike

edit: No issues paddy!

[Paddy]

Sultan Andy,

My people were quite happy for the Spainish people to exist as they have for so long

Yet they have attacked my people and sent troops into my lands

this is an atrocity

what would you advise that the people of france do in this situation

I have but a small force at this time looking into their lands

so will you be sending troops via ship to these lands?

[Mickeyj]

:mad: b*gger, must have just missed the turn before i left for work this morning :mad:

great game paddy - no issues :b:

[Mickeyj]

turn away

[Paddy]

July 1800 to Andy

[Andydog]

Mate you need to send your turns to Shogun!

Anyway, back to diplomacy, how does the world feel about this sudden war between King Paddy and the bull rooting Spanish? The issue of land being key, of course. :D

[Paddy]

ahh yes well I will try hard to get them to Lord Gunner asap :)

I am trying to get peace with the Spanish Lords

at this time they are refusing to acknowledge my envoys :(

any one with any ideas on how to talk them around :)

[Mickeyj]

Hmm Napoleon of the French seems to be up to his imperialist tricks.

The mighty Russians will be watching the developments very closely.

[Paddy]

What do ya mean by this young Sire

can we count on your support in this endeavour

these dastardly Spainish attack then run away

they are warriors of the mountains

I look forward to receiving your official documention on our Alliance against Spain soon :D

[Mickeyj]

As you well know the Russians are fine peace loving peoples ;)

[Paddy]

yeah well get some of ya peace loven' cossacks down here pronto

help contain these raging spainards

[Mickeyj]

Unfortunatly the cossacks are all at the pub having a few vodkas, they’ll be in no possition to fight, besides there’s always the old russian adage – don’t drink and ride:D

[Paddy]

:lol:

that be a shame

well I still look forward to your diplomats arriving soon with the alliance documentation

maybe, just hopefully with such a document, then the Spainish may atleast acknowledge my envoy, thus allow peace to reign again :D

[Shogun Gunner]

Save to Andy.

I believe the Spanish blood is firey...it's possible their bravado has led to conflict with the French. Impossible to know without boots on the ground. Are you asking for assistance, King Paddy?

[Paddy]

In deed Lord of the British

I have a highly volitile situation here

Please unleash your mighty redcoats to Spain on the next tide

an official alliance would be gratefully accepted

it just may be what I need to bring these savage Spainards to the diplomatic table

[Andydog]

The Ottomans offer their hand in containing these "raging spainards". We would be willing to send over a strike force of Siphai to help drive them back from where they came from. :)

--> Mickeyj

[Paddy]

Thank you Gracious Lord of the Ottomen

How soon will you ships embark on this worthy journey?

Will you also be sending formal alliance papers by fast desptach rider?

[Mickeyj]

Turn Away

[Paddy]

Sept 1800 to Lord Gunner

ok my error

It has come to light that the Bombard feature is not operational in this scenario

yet it is working in the following napoleonic scenario that I started this last week - Diplomacy Game

so the question is do we restart (we are only in the 1st year) or carry on without this fantastic feature???

[Modo44]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
It has come to light that the Bombard feature is not operational in this scenario

yet it is working in the following napoleonic scenario that I started this last week - Diplomacy Game

It doesn't work in that other game, actually. I'm playing England there, so I should know ;). The scenario has modified ships - they can't bombard at all.

The bombard button is something that shows up only in MP, it seems. It is not functional, though. I just double checked, by trying to bomb something with a Man-O-War - it wouldn't happen (red cursor everywhere). The only effect I got was after several repeated clicks - bombarding the ship's own square, with no effect but losing a movement point. Just don't use the button and you'll be fine.

[Paddy]

ouch

that is quite a shame

back to the drawing boards for me :(

[Modo44]

You mean it was supposed to work? You mean you really wanted to have bombarding Privateers? ;)

Well, you seem to have forgotten to add bombard values to the ships. They are still zero, as the Civilopedia shows (it reads the actual values from the save, so there's no mistake there).

[Paddy]

ahhh no Privateers are not to be able to bombard

yet frigates, man-o-war and ships of the line are supposed to be able to in these modified scenarios :)

that was one of the goals :hippie:

[Shogun Gunner]

i can tell you that my man-o-wars CANNOT bombard :(

[Paddy]

that is right

in this one I have also proven that they do not work

that is why I asked before...

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
Sept 1800 to Lord Gunner

ok my error

It has come to light that the Bombard feature is not operational in this scenario

yet it is working in the following napoleonic scenario that I started this last week - Diplomacy Game

so the question is do we restart (we are only in the 1st year) or carry on without this fantastic feature???

looking forward to your replies :hippie:

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Modo44
You mean it was supposed to work? You mean you really wanted to have bombarding Privateers? ;)

Well, you seem to have forgotten to add bombard values to the ships. They are still zero, as the Civilopedia shows (it reads the actual values from the save, so there's no mistake there).

yeah I have tried it out - my bad

sorry folks

[Shogun Gunner]

vote to restart -- we've only played three turns and Paddy's already invaded Spain :lol:

[Paddy]

ok, as per previous, I am in the editor getting the values sorted

[Shogun Gunner]

i will then ignore the current email with save from you Paddy...

[Paddy]

restarted as discussed

we each have some cash and a leader to do with as we will :D

Jan 1800 to Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

Slightly different start, interesting...

Save to the Sultan of Swing, Andydog.

[Paddy]

ahh yes

there were a few slight differences that came out with the 2nd game - Diplomacy Napoleonic Pbem

hope you enjoy

[Andydog]

bring it on! :D

--> Mike

[Mickeyj]

aah fewer cities for me thiss time i see. At least my capital isn't Helsinki this time :)

Turn away

[Shogun Gunner]

i recieved this save via email...I forwarded to Paddy. This one follows a different turn order from easygoing, boc and shogun....it's bound to confuse us again in the future ;)

[Paddy]

and onto His Majesty King Gunner

March 1800

[Shogun Gunner]

I am beginning to think that the French must war with the Spanish...perhaps in every alternate timeline and dimension known to mankind.

King Paddy, what is your intention with Spain? May England be of assistance?

It seems I have uttered these words before...deju vu (there's some French for ya Paddy :)

[Shogun Gunner]

I forgot :idiot:

save to Andydog

[Andydog]

King Paddy, we accept your offer and will send over our deadly Siphai to help with the bloodthirsty Spanish.

However this is on the condition that you return their cities once they've been suitably passifed. :)

--> Mickeyj

[Mickeyj]

Paddy I haave no idea what you do to torment them I'll send a transport down to assist.

Turn Away

[Paddy]

May 1800 to Lord Gunner

---------

Sultan Andy,

we look forward to seeing the sails of your mighty navy carrying your feirce horsemen. please note that we thank you for your assistance, but that it would not be prudent to reseed any victories to a nation that has taken so many of our youth.

---------

Czar MickeyJ,

thank you for your efforts in this struggle with such barbarians

---------

Lord Gunner,

my intention in Spain is to put down these attacks on my humble people. If I must take this battle to the end of the line, then so be it. at this time they continue to refuse to talk with my envoy. maybe if you were to sign the alliance papers that I have sent your people, then this may bring the Spanish rebels to the table of diplomacy...

[Shogun Gunner]

Acknowledged King Paddy. I will take you at your word that the Spanish militarism is running strong against France...although I note the strong contingent of French soldiers on the outskirts of Madrid.

Save to Sultan Andy.

[Andydog]

hmm.

--> Mickeyj

[Mickeyj]

troops deployed

turn away

[Paddy]

and onto the Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

July 1800 AD to Sultan Andydog

[Mickeyj]

To Paddy

[Paddy]

and onto the Lord Gunner

[Mickeyj]

[Edit] Wrong forum :)

[Shogun Gunner]

I see that Madrid has been taken from the warmongering, aggressive Spanish.

Parliament is considering sending British troops as Peacekeepers.

Save to Andy

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
I see that Madrid has been taken from the warmongering, aggressive Spanish.

Parliament is considering sending British troops as Peacekeepers.

Save to Andy

Peacekeepers would be a welcome sight in the horrible war

how soon car you get here Lord Gunner

will you bring your famed RedCoats?

do you know how many troops you would be able to commit

I must admit that the losses I have taken have been massive

I had hoped that the Spainish would talk to me about peace by now, but at this time they refuse to discuss such things with me

all very very sad indeed

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/grinser/grinning-smiley-048.gif http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/cool/cool-smiley-030.gif http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/grinser/grinning-smiley-048.gif

[Andydog]

hmmm

--> Mickeyj

[Paddy]

what do you mean by "hmmm"???

are you sending your alliance documents as discussed

will we be hearing of your troopships landing in spain soon to help in this terrible situation?

peace, we need peace

the Spainish must be brought to the peace table

[Mickeyj]

Almost there - just hope your lads can hold out for 14 turns ;) paddy.

[Paddy]

14 turns

may the wind find you sails soon


ahh I see a British Flotilla heading for Spain

about time old chap - wot!

so those there privateers, I take it they will not be attacking my lads then :)

onto you Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

Lord Paddy:

May I ask if you have been attacked by any privateers? Thank you for the encouragement to make haste to Spain.

The British have no intel on the strategic or tactical situation within Spain. Perhaps, France would like to share some specifics with the countries that send troops into harm's way?

The encrypted parchment is sent via camel to the Ottoman Empire. ;)

[Paddy]

Ahhh Mighty Lords

The Spainish attack at all quarters
they seem to have great bravery
yet no terms for peace :(

Lord Gunner
A privateer was engaged in the med by a troopship

These spanish priates will not control the sea lanes

[Shogun Gunner]

and the British have no holdings or access to the Med.

So the Spanish will be uterrly conquered and ruled from Paris?

[Andydog]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
what do you mean by "hmmm"???

are you sending your alliance documents as discussed

will we be hearing of your troopships landing in spain soon to help in this terrible situation?

peace, we need peace

the Spainish must be brought to the peace table

Well Lord Paddy, we Ottomans have yet to see any sign of the 'desperate plight' of your French people. You say the 'rampaging Spanish' have inflicted heavy losses to your troops, yet it is their cities that are turning blue one by one. Why must we 'desparately send assistance' when the French are doing a rosey job of snuffing out the spanards by themselves? I fail to see how a quicker rate of killing with 'help in this terrible situation'.

I never supported the French conquest of Spain in its entirety, yet this is precisely what is happening.

I am surprised to see my fellow European countries supporting this slaughter.

--> Mickeyj

[Paddy]

well my Lords

all I want is peace ;)

[Mickeyj]

Turn aWay

[Paddy]

as you may know I am out bush this week, and am on a laptop that is operating version 1.22

yet is not opening all the pbem games which is strange

I am not sure what is going on

here is a screenshot of what is coming up, then the Civ program closes down

any ideas?

[Mickeyj]

Paddy no idea why it's even asking for a knight, perhaps something to do with playing a scenario on a machine it wasn't started on???? just a guess.

Anyway I can survive (barely) ;) waitng for you to get back on line.

[Paddy]

cheers mate

the actual error message changes each time I try to reload the save

[Shogun Gunner]

Will that help? ;)

[Paddy]

tanks mate

you are way too kind :D

[Shogun Gunner]

:lol: no problem.

Just let me know what other kind of "death" you want. I'll be glad to deliver it....personally.

Right now, I can offer:

DeathByRedcoat
DeathByHouseHold Cavalry
DeathByMan-o-War

Then again, you have been pretty proficient yourself in dealing out "DeathToSpanishTroops" ;)

[Paddy]

:lol:

cheers :D

[Shogun Gunner]

Are you still getting that error message Paddy?

[Paddy]

indeed

but then I am not at home yet, I am on someone elses pc

so I only was willing to go so far in fixing it

as mentioned several times in these threads, please feel free to replace me :)

[Shogun Gunner]

And each response is "you are irreplaceable" :)

No, "1799 will never be the same" without you ;)

[Paddy]

:lol: thanks for cheering me up

this is my alll time favourite scenario, and not being able to play it has bummed me out a bit

as for being irreplaceabe, that is funny

thanks Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

of course Paddy, you're a good dude :)

[Mickeyj]

You play a bit to much civ but a good dude (no references to the ranch) all round. sweet.

[Andydog]

aaawww

warm fuzzys!
warm fuzzys!

PS - what a fantastic spanking of the French dished out by the all blacks last night! :b:

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Mickeyj
You play a bit to much civ but a good dude (no references to the ranch) all round. sweet.

And now its the other way around.

You play a bit too much on the ranch, but still a good civ player (no reference to the error message) all round. marshmellow sweet.

[Andydog]

what happened to this game chaps?

[Paddy]

OK, I have the save, but I am not at home, I m 6 hours north working on a farm to help a family member.

The hassle s that I am not on my pc up here, and this laptop has some serious issues with games after a certain time etc.

Long story - short story...

I will be home this week :D

[Paddy]

Jan 1802 to Shogun Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

Save to Andydog

[Andydog]

nothings turned up so far..
please can you resend?

[Shogun Gunner]

Thanks for the email Paddy. I didn't see the thread since I sent the save. I just resent. I'll check back to make sure you got it, Andy.

[Paddy]

cheers mate

ahh it is all good :D

[Shogun Gunner]

I'm hoping this arrived this time. Can you confirm, Andydog?

[Andydog]

Yes got it no probs. Played and sent to Mickeyj.

I hope you guys all have a nice Christmas! :D

[Paddy]

thanks mate

and to you and yours :D

[Shogun Gunner]

Thanks!!! Merry Christmas to you guys also!!!!

[Mickeyj]

And HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Turn Away

[Paddy]

March 1801 to Lord Gunner of Spain

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
March 1801 to Lord Gunner of Spain

:hmmm: I don't know if that's intentional..maybe you are trying to send me a covert threat? I am KING OF ENGLAND and YOU are sacking and pillaging Spain. Are you implying I'm next? Bring it on Frenchie! :D

March 1801 save to Sultan of Swing, Andydog.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner


:hmmm: I don't know if that's intentional..maybe you are trying to send me a covert threat? I am KING OF ENGLAND and YOU are sacking and pillaging Spain. Are you implying I'm next? Bring it on Frenchie! :D

March 1801 save to Sultan of Swing, Andydog.

not at all old chap

I was actually praising your nation on the marvelous help you are in Spain

and congratulations on haveing them hand over a coastal city to you :)

[Shogun Gunner]

heh heh....You don't need my help. But what's up with England not getting Gibraltar????!!!!???? WTF????

There goes the key to my Mediterranean gambit. :bored:

[Paddy]

:lol:

ahh but you did get a lot of other possessions :D

and if ya hurry you could still get Gibraltar - well maybe ;)

[Shogun Gunner]

Too many blue uniforms between me and Gibraltar!

BTW, does Spain still exist? I only see blue? :lol:

[Paddy]

oh of course Spain still exists

it is my hope that the leadership of this fine nation will see sense soon and ceace their hostilities against my humble people ;)

[Shogun Gunner]

Wow. The Iraqi Information Minister must be working for France now! :lol:

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
Wow. The Iraqi Information Minister must be working for France now! :lol:

ahhhh I think you will find that the Iraqi chap went to one of our Universities :lol:

[Andydog]

turn away.

Lord Paddy.

The Sultans of Swing watch events in Spain with increasing concern. Please can you confirm your intentions - do you intend to return captured cites to Spain?

If not then I fear that the balance of power has tipped far too much into France's favour, and will be holding urgent talks with other world leaders to determine how to contain French aggression.

I trust you will provide a speedy response.

[Paddy]

Oh indeed



these lands are Spains not Frances

we just be meeting their aggressian head on



do you feel the need to attack your friend in these times of trouble

[Andydog]

The sultan has difficulty accepting that it is really necessary to take control of all these cities, as you have done, to meet Spains supposed agression head on.

Perhaps you could alleviate our fears by returning all cities next turn and withdrawing your troops from Spain. I'm sure the Spanish would be only too pleased to accept peace under these circumstances?

[Paddy]

Certainly :lol:

oh you do jest

I will soon redraw the map of spain :)

but it will not be next turn

it will be at a time suitable to the needs of France, of course

[Andydog]

I see.

Well then perhaps you could tell us exactly when you intend to return their cities?

[Paddy]

not at all sure old chap

but my expansion has almost ended :)

how goes your missions

[Mickeyj]

Paddy it seems your expansion will only finish with the anihalation of the Spanish people, we the Russians are certain the Spanish would offer a peace deal by now.

Turn Away

[Paddy]

well yes... unfortunatly they now refuse to talk to me

I seem to have gone too far....

what do you suggest

May 1801 to Lord Gunner

[Andydog]

what a load of bollocks.

I don't know about the rest of you world leaders but the Sultan has no doubt that the bloodthirsty French not only started the war, but intends to finish it with the total destruction of Spain with no plans to vacate their lands, despite all the t!t pulling he's given us so far.

Surely I'm not the only one here who can see this?? What's the matter with you people!!

;)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Andydog
what a load of bollocks.

I don't know about the rest of you world leaders but the Sultan has no doubt that the bloodthirsty French not only started the war, but intends to finish it with the total destruction of Spain with no plans to vacate their lands, despite all the t!t pulling he's given us so far.

Surely I'm not the only one here who can see this?? What's the matter with you people!!

;)


Mighty Lords of Europe,

Thank you for your consideration and patience in this turbulent time in the far western peninsula.

France has spent considerable resources in this time of anarchy and rebelion of the sepratists.

This time is quite rightly coming to an end, and again, your patience is much appreciatted. Soon you will again be able to reopen trade with these happy peoples.

In much splendor and Grand style, My Lord Emperor Napoleon, has appointed his brother the King of Spain :D

You would be pleased to know that the mighty King of Spain is happy and content with the the reunification of the Grand Aquitaine Empire.

France and Spain extend greetings and pleasure in the actions of their British allies as they once again regain control of their Portugeuse holdings.

France and Spain extend great thanks to the mighty Empire of Russia for their valued assistance in this worthwhile situation.

Now Mighty Suultain of the East, just why do you rumble and grumbe so loudle? Have we attacked your people? Have we grown any bigger than any other nation in Europe... why no we have not. Please let it be known that the Aquitaine Empire is of the same size as our Mighty Russian Allies.

So what is your issue? Could it be that the Emperor of Austria no longer bows at your feet? Is it true that you now must send vaste chests of gold and silks to stop the Austrian Hussars from relocating your Palace into Damascus?

Or is it that your feet have that uncontrolable itch that comes of old socks?

How be your camals Old Suultain? Do you really have the hours to tend to the politics of Europe, what when your flocks of goats and being tended by Kurdish warriors around their camp fires. Do you really care of our dealings that you need make such a fuss, or are you just provoking issues to start fights between the leaders of the true Europe?

Oh you are quite worked up about this are you not old Suultain?

Well we here in Paris hope you will calm your itch in your feet, and that you will again regain the tongue of a friend, and not by cutting it from his mouth.

May peace and friendship reign throughout our lands and our peoples

May trade prosper for all :)

Paddy
Marechal of France

[Mickeyj]

LOL

[Paddy]

Maybe the old Suultain has gone to his tent early tonight

He may have an early day herding in his camels...

now did ya hear the one of the fleas of 1000 camels?

[Shogun Gunner]

That's quite a post there, Emperor Paddy! :lol:

Is their no resolution to this international conflict? Let us not all rush to war gentlemen. Is their no middle ground?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
That's quite a post there, Emperor Paddy! :lol:

Is their no resolution to this international conflict? Let us not all rush to war gentlemen. Is their no middle ground?

oh of course there is resolution

Lord Gunner, please pay no mind to these quiet diplomatic ramblings of the old Suultain and myself

We mean no real harm

of course we know the old Suultain is just quite jealous he could not make the Spainish party, what with his prior commitments and all that

by the way old Suultain, how are those goats going?

[Andydog]

:lol:

Paddy you truly are a rascal. Looks like I’m going to have to spend a good bit of time on this one, will try to get to it tonight. All depends on how the little one copes with his first night back at home from hospital. :)

PS – having re-read a few of my posts above, I hope they don’t come across as being too aggressive – I wrote them all with a smile! Should have added more winks in. ;)

[Paddy]

Me a rascal... :lol: you are way too kind

well time can be hard to gather together when you harem keep delivering children to your royal court

and good Suultain, it is all good :D

especially here in the Grand Aquitaine Empire

[Mickeyj]

I'm pleased you have noticed the concern of your fellow neighbours, even if Sultan Andydog's wit is a bit on the tasteless side. :D I’m afraid those Ottomans have the hilarity of a Turkey, I can only imagine those falafels and kebabs must be influencing his humour. :p

:hmmm:
But more to the point, my advisor Rasputin has informed me that your expansion in Spain is causing a major imbalance in Location Victory Points. :hmmm:

Now even though the Russian people have never taken to that Latin music trash preferring instead the Barynya, we would hate to see a fellow civilization with their own unique and respected cultural identity erased off the map. :shame:

Has your imperialist expansion not gone far enough, surely the French want world peace and Prosperity? I propose we gather at the magnificent Versailles to discuss the peaceful return of the Spanish cities. :idea:

[Paddy]

I have stated several time that I have stopped

if you look to your maps you will see negative growth :)

[Andydog]

Well, we managed to drag the old Sultan kicking and screaming from his favourite herd of royal goats to discuss the grave situation in Western Europe.

After pouring through all the bits and pieces of French parchment, (which, as the Sultan pointed out, seemed to reek of rotten snails), it was agreed that we can no longer see the honourable people of Spain being murdered and robbed by the French savages.

Questions were asked concerning the future of Europe. If we allow France to get away with such aggression, who knows where it may end.

We are glad that our Russian friends and neighbours recognise the seriousness of this situation. We only hope that the honourable Lord Shogun has managed to convince the scousers and jordies of the north that being in very close proximity to France, England faces a dire threat. There will be no more fish and chips if the French tyrant has his way. "They'll have had their chips", mentioned the Sultan, chucking to himself at his cleaver play of words.

After scratching himself thoughtfully, (must be those camels), the Sultan decreed that the Spanish shall receive aid from the Ottomans in some way shape or form.

He shall attend the emergency summit at Versailles, kindly organised by Rasputin (Hoo-Ra Ra for Rasputin! Lover of..the Russian queen! It was a shame..how he carrrrried on...), and will press for the strongest measures to be taken.

So Lord Paddy, anything to say before this summit commences? What is your grudge against the honourable bull fighters of Spain? Could it be that the best a Frenchman can do, in contrast, is to wrestle down a mighty frog for his legs? Do all Frenchman find frogs legs attractive?

And please, no more of la pork pies. We’ve had enough pork pies ah la frog paddy to put the sultan off even falafel.

and now for the things:
;) :D :doitnow!: :angry: :mad: :naughty:

[Paddy]

ahhhh the legs of a frog :p yummmmmmmmmmm

and as stated France is no longer at war with the rebels of Spain

have you not noted the negative growth in this area

[Mickeyj]

Who, I ask, has the turn? :confused:


I am eager to investigate the supposedly static French borders!.

[Andydog]

The turn is with you - just sent now.

The negative victory points that Paddy mentions is only happening because of the rapid English growth - i assume because of the commerce bonuses they receive - not sure how VPs are calculated.

[Paddy]

you two are a tad brian dead :lol:

I have less Spanish Ground than before...

less points had little to do with anycomment I made

[Mickeyj]

Slightly off topic - how do victory points work and how many / what percentage do you need?

[Mickeyj]

Andy I've already played Mar 1801 can you check your save and resend.

[Andydog]

I thought there was something familar about it.

Correct save --> Mickeyj

[Mickeyj]

Turn Away,

Running a bit late will have to play the other turns tonight.

[Paddy]

MigkeyJ

you have sent me your save :hmmm:

[Mickeyj]

B*gger,

Will have to resend this evening.

[Paddy]

cheers mate

I will play it when I get home from the office tomorrow then :D

[Paddy]

AD 1801 July to Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

July 1801 AD save -- by goat -- to the old, colourful, crotchity Sultan Andydog.

I have reread this entire thread -- it's filled with great humour (see how I get into character with all the British spelling :D )

[Paddy]

:lol:

indeed this is a great game

yet again

[Andydog]

English goats are nothing on the Ottoman goats. In fact the English goats are quite slutty. ;)

September --> Mike

[Mickeyj]

Sep 1801 to Paddy.

Unlike the French goats who prance around with there noses in the air going wee wee.

[Andydog]

:lol::lol:

[Paddy]

AD 1801 Sept to Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

Sept 1801 to Sultan Andy

[Andydog]

Nov to Mike

[Mickeyj]

Nov 1801 to Paddy

[Paddy]

AD 1801 Nov to Lord Gunner


Lords

I have attached a copy of the Diplomatic Screen

You will note that my people are at peace with the Spainish Independent Government

Thank you

[Shogun Gunner]

Save to Sultan Andy Nov 1801

[Mickeyj]

Turn to Paddy

[Paddy]

AD 1802 January to Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

I'll play it when I get home from work today...

By the way, have you guys noticed that our Paddy has the Third Highest Post Count here at Apolyton??? Does the site become yours if you pass MarkG and Ming?

[Paddy]

:lol: that is priceless :D

[Shogun Gunner]

Sultan Andydog, I must protest. What have the English people done to the Ottoman empire? Why has your country declared war on the English empire.

We demand answers, and quickly, unless you are happy to be provoking us.

[Shogun Gunner]

Jan 1802AD to Warlord Sultan Andydawg

[Andydog]

Sorry Lord Shogun, I guess war must have kicked in when I signed an MPP with Spain. I assume you have ended your participation in the war now that the bloodthirsty frogs have done so?

I'll play the turn tonight after work. :)

[Paddy]

:banp: ribburp :banp:

[Andydog]

--> Mike

[Mickeyj]

Jan 1802 to Paddy

[Paddy]

March 1802 to Lord Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

March 1802 AD to Sultan Andydog.

The campaign in Spain is over. I have sent a Peace Treaty for your review and signature, Sultan.

[Paddy]

Ahhh so we await word from the mighty Suultain of the East

[Andydog]

Leaders of Europe,

Given the upset of power that Europe has experienced in recent months, the Sultan and their close ally Russia have been forced to restore the balance.

War has broken out with our neighbours Austria and Prussia. It is with a heavy heart and an itchy camel-flea bitten bum that the Sultan orders troops into Austria.

We must prevent the frogs from giving in to their bloodthirsty nature and expanding eastwards. The Sultan's troops, with the aid of the Russia, are currently re-defining boarders to achieve this aim, since our army will better be able to resist the frog rooting savages than the feeble Austrian army.

The MPPs in place have caused the honourable English and the dishonourable French ;) to declare war on us. If the Ottomans or Russians are attacked by either the English or French, we will fight them side by side.

However we do not want to shed more blood than is necessary and will send over peace offerings next turn {The Sultan forgot to do it this turn - I guess he had the goats on his mind ;)}.

Once we feel more comfortable with the balance of power, we would like to try to improve relations with the French and begin trading so that all our people prosper.

We anticipate the war to be a short one, causing the minimum of disruption to Austrian and Prussian civilians. We wouldn't like this war to turn into a major European conflict. Again, we were forced into this by the actions of the Frogs.

May --> Mike

[Mickeyj]

May to Paddy

Official Russian communiqué to follow once the tsar has reccovered from the effects of last night.

;)

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Andydog
Leaders of Europe,

Given the upset of power that Europe has experienced in recent months, the Sultan and their close ally Russia have been forced to restore the balance.

War has broken out with our neighbours Austria and Prussia. It is with a heavy heart and an itchy camel-flea bitten bum that the Sultan orders troops into Austria.

We must prevent the frogs from giving in to their bloodthirsty nature and expanding eastwards. The Sultan's troops, with the aid of the Russia, are currently re-defining boarders to achieve this aim, since our army will better be able to resist the frog rooting savages than the feeble Austrian army.

The MPPs in place have caused the honourable English and the dishonourable French ;) to declare war on us. If the Ottomans or Russians are attacked by either the English or French, we will fight them side by side.

However we do not want to shed more blood than is necessary and will send over peace offerings next turn {The Sultan forgot to do it this turn - I guess he had the goats on his mind ;)}.

Once we feel more comfortable with the balance of power, we would like to try to improve relations with the French and begin trading so that all our people prosper.

We anticipate the war to be a short one, causing the minimum of disruption to Austrian and Prussian civilians. We wouldn't like this war to turn into a major European conflict. Again, we were forced into this by the actions of the Frogs.

May --> Mike

France stands in shock at this news :eek:

What has the world come to indeed :lol:

With a great deal of sadness our Nation mourns this day. :( :( :(

So the Mighty Suultain has stretched out his hand and sprinkled the fleas of his nation across the landscape of Europe. :naughty: The Camel jockeys have made a way and smited people have they.

Are you going to be supllying maps of your conquests?

What sort of damage did you inflict Suultain?

What sort of damage did the Austrians extract from your forces? Were they able to stem the flow of your unleashed Camel Jockeys? :naughty: have they given you rise to desire peace with my people so quickly? :) have you taken such a beating so quickly that they may now start taking land from you?

I hope that you are aware of the strength and power of the mighty Austrian Hussars. They are a formidable force that you should be very weary of :D

You calmly state that these actions of your Nation have been brought upon you by the very nature of our people :( just amazing indeed :cool:

Yes amazing :) I am touched that France, who has not one unit near your people, who has openly traded with you, who desires to see you grow in happiness and prosperity, could so easily be the Blame for your expansionist desires :lol: You do my people proud that you need lay the blame at our feet. :b:

Indeed, your politics and diplomacy is all very different to ours. But then you are quite the foriegner to me :naughty:

At this hour we realise that the sacred save will have been delivered to our Palace. :D It is anticipated that we will return there in the coming hours. :D

Well :( again it will be with a saddened heart to then find out the losses that will have been inflicted on these two staunch and mighty allied nations. :(

It is certainly hoped that you know what you have done... :rolleyes:

Never have we attacked or hurt any nation that you called allie or friend - never :evil: :rolleyes: :evil:

you have done something here that is all very very dangerous :mad: :evil: :mad:

the more I think of this, the more my blood rises :evil: :evilgrin: :evil:

I have no problem that you feel that you need to annex lands, expand your empires, grow and teach those of other lands the glory of your own hearts. You know this by my actions in Spain. Of this I try not to be a hypocrite at all.

You blame me though, making my people accountable for the massive loss of live and upheveal of the very people that we have signed aggreements to protect and stand tall with.

Then you wave some proposed peace treaty at my people :rant:

Do you think we have no loyalties

You speak of your alliances - Russia and the Ottomen, as if we should all drop to the floor in awe :scared: yet you wish us to ignore our alliances :evilgrin: :lol: :evilgrin: oh we be not the fools you would have us be ;)

My people are very curious to hear the reply of the British.

Many a report and statement was put forward over French actions in Spain.

The world now awaits the report from the Czar of all of the Russias.... What on earth will he say :rolleyes:

[Paddy]

May 1802 to Lord Gunner

Czar Mickey, looking forward to your report :)

[Shogun Gunner]

The English King looks at the recent strategic map of Europe and sighs..... His Royal Highness looks at his top military advisor and asks, "Are Russians and Ottomans - European??" The lack of a response became an overwhelming silence as no one dared to speak.

The King slid a sealed envelope over to the military commandar. "Carry out these orders immediately" the King stated. With that, he turned on his heel and marched out of the room. The military commandar's hand shook as he opened the letter.... He turned to his subordinates and waved them out of the room.

May 1802 to Sultan Andydog

[Paddy]

So one can only wonder what was in the envelope...


Originally posted by Mickeyj
May to Paddy

Official Russian communiqué to follow once the tsar has reccovered from the effects of last night.

;)

and still no word from Russia on this matter :hmmm:

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot


France stands in shock at this news :eek:

What has the world come to indeed :lol:

With a great deal of sadness our Nation mourns this day. :( :( :(

So the Mighty Suultain has stretched out his hand and sprinkled the fleas of his nation across the landscape of Europe. :naughty: The Camel jockeys have made a way and smited people have they.

Are you going to be supllying maps of your conquests?

What sort of damage did you inflict Suultain?

What sort of damage did the Austrians extract from your forces? Were they able to stem the flow of your unleashed Camel Jockeys? :naughty: have they given you rise to desire peace with my people so quickly? :) have you taken such a beating so quickly that they may now start taking land from you?

I hope that you are aware of the strength and power of the mighty Austrian Hussars. They are a formidable force that you should be very weary of :D

You calmly state that these actions of your Nation have been brought upon you by the very nature of our people :( just amazing indeed :cool:

Yes amazing :) I am touched that France, who has not one unit near your people, who has openly traded with you, who desires to see you grow in happiness and prosperity, could so easily be the Blame for your expansionist desires :lol: You do my people proud that you need lay the blame at our feet. :b:

Indeed, your politics and diplomacy is all very different to ours. But then you are quite the foriegner to me :naughty:

At this hour we realise that the sacred save will have been delivered to our Palace. :D It is anticipated that we will return there in the coming hours. :D

Well :( again it will be with a saddened heart to then find out the losses that will have been inflicted on these two staunch and mighty allied nations. :(

It is certainly hoped that you know what you have done... :rolleyes:

Never have we attacked or hurt any nation that you called allie or friend - never :evil: :rolleyes: :evil:

you have done something here that is all very very dangerous :mad: :evil: :mad:

the more I think of this, the more my blood rises :evil: :evilgrin: :evil:

I have no problem that you feel that you need to annex lands, expand your empires, grow and teach those of other lands the glory of your own hearts. You know this by my actions in Spain. Of this I try not to be a hypocrite at all.

You blame me though, making my people accountable for the massive loss of live and upheveal of the very people that we have signed aggreements to protect and stand tall with.

Then you wave some proposed peace treaty at my people :rant:

Do you think we have no loyalties

You speak of your alliances - Russia and the Ottomen, as if we should all drop to the floor in awe :scared: yet you wish us to ignore our alliances :evilgrin: :lol: :evilgrin: oh we be not the fools you would have us be ;)

My people are very curious to hear the reply of the British.

Many a report and statement was put forward over French actions in Spain.

The world now awaits the report from the Czar of all of the Russias.... What on earth will he say :rolleyes:

and still no reply from the oh so pround Suultain then...

[Mickeyj]

Tsar Mickeyj is tied up with other matters of national importance at the moment, ie the Battersea Power Station :). A diplomatic response will be drafted during the course of the day:)

[Andydog]

The Sultan is also extremely busy.

He has noted numerous French armies on our boarders and stacks of French units are piling up on the mountains.

The Sultan fears that unless the leaders of Europe unite to fight the French then they will most certainly run away with this entire continent.

More tonight hopefully.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Andydog
The Sultan is also extremely busy.

He has noted numerous French armies on our boarders and stacks of French units are piling up on the mountains.

The Sultan fears that unless the leaders of Europe unite to fight the French then they will most certainly run away with this entire continent.

More tonight hopefully.

could it be you two great leaders started your run on France a little too early :naughty:

so you have opened the save, just not played it... ;)

[Andydog]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
could it be you two great leaders started your run on France a little too early :naughty:


quite the opposite in fact.
how many armies did you give yourself to start with btw?

and i forgot to note above that the save is with Mike.

[Paddy]

just what came with the scenario

and the extra we all got :)

[Paddy]

come on Russia

where be your retort - oh I mean your report :)

and do you still have the save old czar ;)

[Mickeyj]

Apologies fellow leaders, I am awaiting the outcome of diplomatic negotiations before playing my turn.

your patience has been noted and appreciated ;)

[Paddy]

come come my Lord Mickey

surely at least you could have posted you eagerly anticipated report on your war with Prussia and Austria ;)

as to diplomacy - bah hum bug

play the turn :D

[Mickeyj]

Diplomacy prevails i'm afraid :p

[Paddy]

well could you at least tell us who we are waiting on ;)

[Andydog]

The diplomats. ;)

[Paddy]

:ban:

[Andydog]

he he

don't worry paddy, you're armies will be tasting the blood they crave soon enough. ;)

[Paddy]

. :ban:

[Paddy]

. :ban:

[Mickeyj]

And finally the turn away!

[Paddy]

July 1802 to Lord Shogun Gunner

[Shogun Gunner]

After a quick conference call with the British Foreign Service Directorate, July 1802 turn away.

See how we do things in England? It's all very efficient you know.

[Andydog]

--> Mike

[Mickeyj]

Erm gents,

I've lost an aweful lot of troops near Berlin and the city has been raised. The AI wouldn't raize its own city that they were in, any chance of a combat report before i send the turn on?:rant: :rant:

[Paddy]

why not just play the turn oh great invader

what is that word - procras......

[Shogun Gunner]

:scared: uh oh. Here we go.

Yes, combat reports are necessary due to the poor design of PBEM in Civ3. Not necessary when you are slaughtering AI troops, but a human player's units, it is important.

[Mickeyj]

Paddy, you know the gaf, combat report please. :hmmm:

[Paddy]

:hmmm: sorry lads, but I remember no such agreement at any time regarding such reports

but I can tell you that One Russian Army and any other units that were located at this place have been dismissed

I will go back and get full details if you wish

do you also require to know the massive carnage that your units caused to my fine lads on the rescue mission?

[Andydog]

Paddy, fully detailed combat reports are required.

Such as the ones I provide in the Easygoing game.

I'm surprised you're questioning this.

[Paddy]

come forth with the post where I have ever provided such a report in a thread where the request for combat reports was not clearly stated in the opening posts :)

but if that be your desire so be it

<strike>so do I need to go back over the last save before the Czar will play the save that he has obviously opened :D</strike>

come on lads

I never ask people for them

I never do them

I am in just a few cames on three different sites

:lol:

so do I need to go back over the last save before the Czar will play the save that he has obviously opened :D

[Andydog]

Paddy, it is not unreasonable to ask for combat reports, nor it is unusual.

As Shogun mentions above, Civ3 multiplay was poorly designed. This means that it is impossible for the person defending to ascertain how many troops attacked him, how many bombarding troops, how many promotions etc etc etc, which is essential information for strategy and is provided by the game during single play.

In all games that I have been involved with it goes without saying that combat reports are provided for those very reasons.

I guess it's up to Mike if he requires a fully detailed report from you before playing the turn, but I quite understand if he does as his next moves will depend on how many troops/armies he should have seen you attacking with.

that's all. :)

[Paddy]

as I said I will do them for this game - and the only one of my games where I thus do

actually it would then be very interesting how the Czar would be able to know what happened at the battle - seeing that all of his units were dismissed ;)

so will the game be only played once a week from now on?

you probably think that this question is also unreasonable, but well we were playing at quite a good turn rate there for a while

[Mickeyj]

Paddy I've fowarded the turn on but am still waiting for a report.

I'm sure your keeping good records for your story anyway ;)

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Mickeyj
Paddy, you know the gaf, combat report please. :hmmm:

What's a "GAF"? :confused:

Paddy, will taking a few notes when playing your turn really slow down the gameplay? Maybe I don't quite understand your post.

I hope everyone is still upbeat about this game. I like this particular scenario...

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Mickeyj
Paddy I've fowarded the turn on but am still waiting for a report.

I'm sure your keeping good records for your story anyway ;)

:lol: lucky old me

now I have two saves for this game to play

the details of replaying them will not be 100% accurate etc
but I will give you a good show old chap

[Paddy]

-----------------------------------

Ok I appreciate all of your much patience with me
I hope that this meets your requirements
I have done a full audit of my units so as to be able to present accurate losses on my side

I apologise that I am not able to state who fell to whom, but a start has been made

I hereby promise to get better and more reliable with these :D

thanks again for your patience with my wandering old brain ;)

-----------------------------------

July 1802 Battle Report in Western Prussia

Elements II Corp under Marechal Remick attacked and destroyed Leipzig from its Russian occupiers

4th Division
1st Brigade
160 Voltigeur Regiment 4/4 dismissed
161 Voltigeur Regiment 4/4 attacks town and survives
2nd Brigade
162 Voltigeur Regiment 4/4 attacks town and survives
163 Voltigeur Regiment 4/4 attacks town and survives
163 Voltigeur Regiment 3/3 attacks town and survives

5th Division
1st Brigade
111 Imperial Cavalry Regiment 4/4 dismissed
2nd Brigade
168 Voltigeur Regiment 4/4 dismissed
169 Voltigeur Regiment down to 2/4

6th Division
1st Brigade
170 Voltigeur Regiment down to 1/3
171 Voltigeur Regiment down to 2/3


we fought against Russian:
Cossack Army 13/13 dismissed
Cossack 4/4 dismissed
Cossack 3/3 dismissed

If this be the weight of Russia, then my lads have some very hard battles ahead of them indeed :scared:

[Paddy]

September 1802 Venice

Elemenst of III Corp and IV Corp attack Venice and surrounding region

3rd Imperial Guards now at 2/5
attacked Shekan 4/4 dimissed
4th Imperial Guards now at 2/5
attacked Shekan 4/4 dimissed
205th Imperial Guards now at 2/5
attacked Musketman 3/3 dimissed
then the 2nd Imperial Guards now at 3/5
attacked Shekan 3/3 dimissed and liberated Venice

discussions have begun for the handing over of this city to Austria, its ancient of owners :D
Vive le france

ThenMarechal Ney's V Corp secured the region

105th Imperial Cavalry Regiment 4/4 now 3/5
attacked Sipahi 3/5 dismissed
104th Imperial Cavalry Regiment dismissed as 4/4 now 2/5
attacked Sipahi 4/4 dismissed
101th Imperial Cavalry Regiment 1/4
attacked Shekan 3/3 dismissed
107th Imperial Cavalry Regiment 3/3 now 3/4 followed
attacked Shekan 3/3 dismissed


September 1802 to Lord Shogun Gunner of England

[Shogun Gunner]

Wow. Nice detail Paddy.

Sept 1802 to Andy.

[Andydog]

Thanks Paddy. :)

Diplomacy is again inhibiting the pace of this game, but the save will be played asap.

[Paddy]

hahahaha

how come you guys don't write me all that much 6these days :evil:

[Mickeyj]

Because you're a WARMONGER Paddy ;)

Guys I won't be around much this week to play turns (that goes for all games). I will however be bored at work so any diplomacy here will be welcome.

[Paddy]

:lol: sure sure

so will you be playing thsi one prior to all this work, or is there still more diplomacy to be done

should have called this the once a month game ;)

[Shogun Gunner]

His troops are tired, they had to run uphill to Austria :lol:

[Paddy]

-----------------------------------


Originally posted by Mickeyj
Because you're a WARMONGER Paddy ;)

Guys I won't be around much this week to play turns (that goes for all games). I will however be bored at work so any diplomacy here will be welcome.

happy to help :D

please forgive me if this gets interuppted, I am at a training course and bored off my scone, yet we could be called to actually do something at any time :lol:


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Greetings Great Czar of all the Russias

It was with great sadness that I read the battle reports of the clash of our forces at Leipzig. The losses on both sides were very high. The letters to th families took quite sometime indeed.

I regret to inform you that we may once again be at battle. My Prussian allies have requested that once Marechal Remicks forces regroup that they head further across Prussia to assist in further action. It seems you have taken another of their cities, and also have quite a force either near and / or within their lands.

As clearly stated previously, my nation fully recognizes the alliance with Prussia, and we will stand with them in this time of your invasion.

Please note that my people do not have any issues with you expanding your Empire, nor do we object to your use of Military force. What we do object to is attacking our allies. Afterall one must stand strong with ones friends and allies, as I am sure you understand.

You should be aware that we do not wish to take this battle into your country, ie across the original borders prior to your invasion. Our intent in this matter is the restoration of Prussia.

We will fight this battle as long as our Alliance stands.

May your family be well

Paddy
Marechal of France


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[Shogun Gunner]

Greetings Great Czar of Russia,

I am writing you to complain about my vacation in the Baltic states. I thought it would be a relatively easy journey from London, to Amsterdam, then through Prussia on the way to the nice Baltic Sea resorts in your country. Everything was smooth until we got to Prussia.

For a country that advertizes itself as a "vacation getaway" and "a nice place to visit", I must take issue with these ascertions. In no fewer than four incidents, Russia cossacks shot their rifles at our horse carriage.

Now, I was told something about a conflict or whatever between France and Russia, and I guess I care about what happens on the continent. However, it shouldn't matter that I was eating a French crossaint at the time that one of your sharpshooting cossacks shot the crossiant right out of my hand.

Thinking that I had put a bit too much jellybutter on the crossiant (that's what they convinced me to buy when I picked up the crossiants in Amsterdam), I concluded that I had squeezed the crossiant a bit much in my haste to touch that delictable treat to my lips -- and flipped it out the carriage window.

Well, it happened a second, third and even a fourth time. Finally, I had realized what had happend, I stormed out of the carriage and declared that I was the King of England. Despite some snickers from your soldiers, they did not shoot at me any more.

While galloping away, I yelled out the window that I would be reporting them to their superiors and they would soon be seeking employment elsewhere...hence this letter.

Can you please send your troops back to sensitivity training, perhaps even a full slate of training, and PLEASE insure that they will not be bored off their scones this time.

Yours,
King of England

P.S. I expect a full refund of my tarnished vacation, in pounds please. My cabinet informed me that the marketing pictures you sent me of the Baltic Sea beaches were really from the Ottoman Empire's Aegean beaches. That is fraud sir!

[Paddy]

:lol: fraud indeed :lol:

[Andydog]

heh

--> Mike

[Paddy]

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Originally posted by Mickeyj
Because you're a WARMONGER Paddy ;)

Guys I won't be around much this week to play turns (that goes for all games). I will however be bored at work so any diplomacy here will be welcome.

so what happened to all this diplomacy old chap ?? ;)


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[Mickeyj]

Not recieved,

Bit tired to be diplomatic :(

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Mickeyj
Not recieved,

Bit tired to be diplomatic :(

:hmmm: I am not sure that I understand, as they are posted above :confused:

[Mickeyj]

Well as Shogun travelled with a non-accredited travel company he'll have to claim compensation through his travel insurance.

As for the restoration of Prussia the russians may be agreeable to that.

[Andydog]

@ shogun: :lol: classic yarn that one

re-sent to Mickeyj

There isn't much point in doing diplo with the French. The Ottomans stuggle to see what options are left.

The french troops are vastly superior compared to others in the same era, their armies are running rampent, and contrary to what I was told at the beginning, the Ottoman UU is the weakest their is. Doesn't seem a very balanced scenario and I think it was a mistake accepting armies to start with.

But the Sultan will remain upbeat, clinging to the smallest of threads of hope..

Will he ever be allowed to rest quietly with his goats again? ;)

[Mickeyj]

You mean those goats with french flies buzzing round their *rse?

:)

[Andydog]

forgot the battle report,

Siphai army looses EIGHT hps against a single french 8/8 musket. :rolleyes:

[Paddy]

musket

since when have the french had musketmen on the field :hmmm:

and you lot demanded battle reports - how bizzare

[Andydog]

not sure i understand you there paddy,

I ment the 8 attack 8 defend musket of the french - begins with V i think - just can't remember the name

[Paddy]

Oh right our Voltigeur Regiments, they be 6 - 5

Our Imperial Guard are 8 - 8 though

thanks

glad you enjoyed the encounter

so are you leaving peacefully to your previous borders?

[Mickeyj]

Those are ludicrous UU's you've got there paddy.

Turn Away

[Paddy]

welcome to France

Attacking the Ottomen

The ottomen have razed several of their towns
all so as to not have to fight the on coming french :lol:

Voltigeur Regiment attacks
Sipahi, 4/4 now 1/4
209th Voltigeur Regiment attacks
Sipahi, 1/4 now dismissed
306th Voltigeur Regiment attacks
Sekah, 4/4 now dismissed


and that be it

Now please know that I have my forces bearing down on the Austrian cities held by the Ottomen

Please let me know if you are just going to raze them and escape

If that was your original plan then you could have made your escape with a stack of workers, which would have helped your country greatly

I am willing to negotiate a peace with you Ottomen

Please be in contact :)

as to Russia, have you pulled out of Prussia yet?

if you have not that is fine, as I too am willing to discuss a peace with you.

[Shogun Gunner]

Nov 1802 to the Sultan.