Trial by Trait - Team PBEM

[Aqualung71]

This is the tracking thread for the Trial by Trait - Team PBEM, in which 3 teams of 2 players will endeavour to pool their resources and exploit their individual traits to the best advantage of their team and out-civ their powerful opponent teams in any way possible (within ethical guidelines!).

Players, teams and civs in play order are:

MrWhereItsAt GMT+12 (Rome) - granvisimo at student dot vuw dot ac dot nz (phew!)
Aqualung71 GMT+8 (Carthage) – akwalung71 at yahoo dot com
Krill GMT (Arabia) – chris at jackos dot f2s dot com
Kloreep GMT-6 (Persia) – ben at surveypoint dot com
1889 GMT-7 (Babylon) – klemnrussell at cableone dot net
Longshot GMT-8 (Greece) – bapess at adelphia dot net

Game setup: C3C 1.22, standard size map, pangea, 70% water, regent difficulty, roaming barbs, climate/temperature/age random. All victory conditions apply except for regicide, elimination, VP scoring, etc. Cultural conversions and SGL’s are on. Culturally linked start locations are on (fingers crossed).

Communications: Unlimited between partners from the start. It’s acceptable to direct an opposing player in the early game in order to meet you so you can trade, etc. However, specific detailed map information is not to be traded until available in-game.

Other Etiquette: General guidelines as used in the Iron Civer tournament to be followed regarding exploits, except that team members are expected and encouraged to co-operate any way they can within the guidelines. Gifting of cities is allowed, however this must not result in teleporting units (same rule for gifting to a team-mate).

The first save will be sent shortly. Totally random map, no meddling or tweaking so don't blame me!

[Aqualung71]

4000BC sent to Krill.

Good luck gents....let's have fun!

[Krill]

sent to Kloreep.

[Kloreep]

4000 BC continues on to 1889

[1889]

Over to Platapus Rex

[Aqualung71]

My idea of unlimited contact between team partners from the start of the game included sending each other screenshots of the map - any objections to this? (haven't done it yet).

[Krill]

I like it. I was thinking about it earlier, but decided against it since the others would not know. If everyone knows we can do it, though...

[Kloreep]

I figured the no-map-trading-till-Nav applied to teammates as well, but no objection if we make an exception.

[Addled Platypus]

over to MrWhereItsAt

[MrWhereItsAt]

Danger Will Robinson!

PRex - you sent me your save instead. I didn't realist until I had already opened it, so I have seen your start surroundings. :( However, I had not looked at the minimap, so I still don't know WHERE you are.

Please resend...

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Danger Will Robinson!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Wow, that brings back childhood memories!


Ok, in the absence of any objections, I hereby declare it's acceptable to send your team partner screen shots.

[Addled Platypus]

what I do wrong so I wont repeat it


Here is what I did

I opened it, played, hit save and exit using the same file name given to me.

I thought it was that simple


:surrender


getting ready to reopen and do it again, good thing I kept it

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex

...good thing I kept it

:lol: Oh hell yes! :D

I'd suggest everyone keep all their saves going back at least a few turns. Personally I keep all of mine, but I wouldn't ask anyone else to, especially a PBEM slut like Paddy. ;)

[Aqualung71]

MWIA, are you where it's at, so to speak?

[Addled Platypus]

When I went to reload the game


I get file may be corrupt, will not load

It worked fine the first time:angry:

[Kloreep]

So you need 1889 to re-send? Or did you get the save off to WIA before that?

[Addled Platypus]

Just getting ready to contact for resend


thanx

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
Just getting ready to contact for resend


thanx

I'm a bit confused at all this, but I am watching if anyone wants me to resend anything anywhere...

[Addled Platypus]

Hate to spoil the fun, but I am still getting the corrupt file error message.

I know it sucks to restart. Go ahead
Dont include me till I get this straightened out.:madban:

maybe I will check in from time to time to see how things are going.



Happy Civ'n

[MrWhereItsAt]

Are you sure you want out PRex? It would be a shame, just because of a single corrupt file (and that could be because you are attempting to load it in the wrong version of C3C). Also, it would mean we would need to remake the game without you.

Please reconsider. :(

[Aqualung71]

1889 - maybe you could try to resend the file to PR again. I don't really want to have to restart. In any case, 3 teams with 5 players doesn't work according to my maths!

[1889]

Here it is again. Maybe some others could try it too and figure it out.

If Platapus Rex has to leave, I know some other interested players so we are back to six.

Good luck Rex.

[Addled Platypus]

I will give it one last try


I will keep you posted




Update

When I try to download, All I get is a done message, but no file

[Aqualung71]

That sounds like a computer problem, not a problem with C3C. I hate to ask the obvious question, but you sure you saved it in the right directory?

[MrWhereItsAt]

Platypus - I have downloaded that file and emailed it to you. Hopefully this means you can stay in the game, and we can get moving. :)

[Addled Platypus]

I never get promted for a location.

I have been dragging and dropping to the right drive and save folder

I click on the load game, select the right game


guess what...file may be corrupt


continue without me, sorry to all

[1889]

I was trying to set up a WWII game with Platapus Rex and Longshot. That game is off, but Longshot said he would like to fill in here.

I'll email him and he should pick up the game very soon.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
I never get promted for a location.

I have been dragging and dropping to the right drive and save folder

I click on the load game, select the right game


guess what...file may be corrupt


continue without me, sorry to all

Sorry to hear that, PRex. :( So not even the email worked?

[Longshot]

I've been asked to take over for Platypus Rex as the Greeks.

Send my turns to bapess at adelphia dot net.

Turn sent to MrWhereItsAt - :hmmm:

[Aqualung71]

Sorry you had to pull out PR....let us know when you've worked out / sorted out your problem and we'll get another game going.

Welcome Longshot, to the Trial by Trait Team game!

[MrWhereItsAt]

Hooray! 3950BC to Aqualung. And we're off! :D

[Aqualung71]

and on to Krill

[Krill]

And sent a while ago to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[Aqualung71]

Longshot, what's your timezone, just for completeness sake?

Cheers!

[Longshot]

I'm Eastern Time Zone.

Turn sent to MrWhereItsAt.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill.

Longshot - eastern what? ;)

[Krill]

To Kloreep

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[1889]

Moving on to Longshot.

[MrWhereItsAt]

3850BC to Agualung.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

To Kloreep.

[Kloreep]

Posted for 1889

[1889]

On its way to Longshot.

[Longshot]

To MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

3800BC to Aqualung

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

On to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

To 1889.

[1889]

On to Longshot.

[MrWhereItsAt]

3750BC to Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

and on to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[1889]

Over to Longshot.

[Longshot]

The turn I got was 3750. Isn't that the turn we've already played?

[1889]

No.

[Longshot]

Turn off to MrWhereItsAt.

Sorry for the delay.

[Aqualung71]

this game's running a bit slow chaps. :(

[MrWhereItsAt]

Apologies for my side of the delays - first the laptop was being fixed all weekend, and now the Internet has been cut off. I have Civ and its various patches installed now though, so I hope to play within 12 hours of getting the save most times until the Net is reconnected again.

Onwards to Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[MrWhereItsAt]

By the way, what do you classify as 'slow' about the game? We DID have a slow start due to some confusions, but with the exception of right now things are going about as fast as is possible - 1.5-2 days between turns. How could we go much faster?

[Krill]

Sorry about that delay.

Sent to Kloreep

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
By the way, what do you classify as 'slow' about the game? We DID have a slow start due to some confusions, but with the exception of right now things are going about as fast as is possible - 1.5-2 days between turns. How could we go much faster?

You're right of course, sorry - no offence intended to anyone. I've got a few other 4-player games that are going at well over a turn a day, so comparing to a 6-player game is a bit unfair. I'm a bit of a PBEM newbie, so I claim ignorance as my excuse :idiot:

[MrWhereItsAt]

I meant no criticism, I was just a little puzzled, is all. :D Are those other games perchance with players around Oz/NZ, or are they as scattered as we are here?

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
I meant no criticism, I was just a little puzzled, is all. :D Are those other games perchance with players around Oz/NZ, or are they as scattered as we are here?

None taken ;)

A mixture....my Iron Civer game is moving ultra quickly because we're all within 3 hours of each other, which allows you to put in the odd super-session. But I do have a couple with players from all over the globe. It seems the main factor, not surprisingly, is number of players. Plus you all have to be reasonably vigilant.....the ability to check twice a day makes a big difference, though I recognise that's not possible with many players.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
the ability to check twice a day makes a big difference, though I recognise that's not possible with many players.

You wouldn't believe how often I can check during the day.... only to have saves turn up shortly after I go to bed!

[Aqualung71]

I guess that's what you get for being one of the first in the world to see the new millenium!

Are you on the North island or South island? I drove around the South island a few years ago, but didn't have time for the North. It was just magic! Unbelievable variety of countryside for such a small landmass.

[Kloreep]

Posted for 1889

[1889]

for Longshot

[Longshot]

Turn off to MrWhereItsAt.

Sorry for causing another delay... I didn't get a email notification of the new posts.

[MrWhereItsAt]

I'm sure none of us mind - especially since I kept it moving so fast! :D

3650BC to Aqualung (who should be awake at this time, hopefully)

[Aqualung71]

My turn to cause a delay. :nono: Sorry chaps, went away for the weekend and neglected to notify you. My bad!

On to Krill

[Krill]

hey, I'll go one better: I'll be gone from thursday afternoon until early sunday morning.

And there is a very good reason that I have the highest score...

on the kloreep

[Kloreep]

And here it is for 1889

[1889]

To longshot.

[Longshot]

sent to MrWhereItsAt

[MrWhereItsAt]

Sorry I'm late... just got back from Sydney again.

Onwards to Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

on to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

passed on to Longshot.

[Longshot]

Played and sent to MrWhereItsAt.

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

...and on...

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

Over to Longshot.

[Longshot]

off to MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

Onto Kloreep

[Kloreep]

And here it is for 1889

[1889]

On Longshot.

[Longshot]

off to MrWhereItsAt...

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

To Kloreep

[Kloreep]

And for 1889.

[1889]

To longshot

[Longshot]

to MrWhereItsAt

[MrWhereItsAt]

Sorry for the delay - noticed this ages ago but it's only now everyone left the lab :D

To Aqualung.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Hey! We're close.... can we do a 24 hour turn? :expect:

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

I think it's close enough to qualify as a 24 hour turn :b:

[Krill]

onto Kloreep

[Kloreep]

And for 1889

[1889]

to Longshot

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
on to Krill

I think it's close enough to qualify as a 24 hour turn :b:
Actually, by my watch that's within 24 hours! And we seem to be accelerating....

[Longshot]

to MrWhereItsAt...

Hows that for speed.

[MrWhereItsAt]

3350BC to Aqualung. If only all my PBEMS were like this...

Or in fact ANY of them...

[Aqualung71]

Fast you say huh? On to Krill then ;)

[MrWhereItsAt]

Wow! :lol:

This will slow down for a bit though. Krill is a Brit, it seems, and it's 2am for him.

[Krill]

7 hours later...

atleast it's only 5 am for Kloreep

[Kloreep]

3 AM, actually.

And thanks to the ISDG turn, you only just missed me. :lol:

For 1889.

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

off to MrWhereItsAt

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung.

This is GREAT speed. :D

[Krill]

To kloreep.

WIA, try to beat this (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=3074476#post3074476) time (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=3076674#post3076674)

[1889]

Come on Krill, those times didn't just happen. That is pretty fast even for a multi-turn session though.

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[MrWhereItsAt]

1m 50s? It takes me about that long to download, open Civ3 and load the save! :eek:

[1889]

To Longshot

[Kloreep]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
1m 50s? It takes me about that long to download, open Civ3 and load the save! :eek:

Yeah, I think my fastest play in a PBEM is 3-4 mins, and that's with Civ and Mozilla (my mail client) open for when I receive the save.

[Longshot]

to MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

Sorry! Was asleep a few more hours than I should have been.

To Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

Sorry for the delay. Sent on.

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

on to MrWhereItsAt

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung

[Aqualung71]

onto Krill

[Krill]

To Kloreep

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

on to MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

Am pretty sure I sent this on. :)

[Aqualung71]

Well if you did, you sent it to someone who isn't me :D

Please resend MWIA

[MrWhereItsAt]

Strange.... I was sure I'd sent it.

Oh well, 3200BC ( the last one I received was 3250BC - I checked) on to Aqualung.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Whoops! I just resent last turn to Aqualung. I didn't check the time of longshot's message. Ignore that one, Aqualung.

What this means is that I haven't yet received what should be 3200BC. Please resend, and try to mrwia AT yahoo DOT co DOT UK as well, just in case. It may arrive sometime, but I'd rather not chance it.

[MrWhereItsAt]

...and in classic comedy timing no sooner had I posted that than found the new save had just arrived. :p

Playing now...

[MrWhereItsAt]

3150BC to Aqualung. :relief: What a struggle! :D

[Aqualung71]

But look on the bright side MWIA....you got 4 in a row added to your post count :lol: :lol: :lol:

3150BC on to Krill

[Krill]

On to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

My email took a day to get to MrWhereItsAt???? :blush:

Anyway... on to MrWhereItsAt, hopefully you get it soon.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

I think MWIA has boycotted posting to prove he's not a spammer! ;)

[MrWhereItsAt]

Whoops! I tend to get these when I'm at work, and I'm a bit cagey about taking up precious kb of the Uni's connection with Poly. The Admin guy knows me very well already... :scared:

But, not wanting to slow the game up, I have to play and send :)

[Krill]

On to Kloreep

[Kloreep]

No problem with not posting WIA. :) It's good to when you can in case the e-mail vanishes, but I sometimes don't post immediately if I'm going out the door soon and don't want to re-set my "last time on poly status" before I can read DG forums.

Anyway, for 1889

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

To MWIA...

[MrWhereItsAt]

To the WaterBreather :)

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

Ok, I'm having email trouble, so I'm posting the save here.

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

to Longshot

[Kloreep]

BTW 1889, your save keeps showing as having been downloaded 3 times if I leave it up long. Very odd.

Are there spectators out there hoping to crack someone's password? :p

[Addled Platypus]

It's more than likely me


I have been re working things in hopes that I have fixed things to work


and I did, except I cant download from forums now??


What a dilema, I got it to play using an older file, cant download any new files

Would you like advanced warnings in the future?

[1889]

Hey Rex, sorry to hear that you still can't PBEM. Send me a one on one game if you think it would help you troubleshot.

[Addled Platypus]

and your e mail?

mine- PREXT at msn dot com

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

On to kloreep

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[1889]

to Longshot

[Longshot]

sent to MWIA...

[MrWhereItsAt]

2950BC to Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

on to kloreep.


I may be a little slow to send my emails, my computer is a bit jerky atm

[Kloreep]

Heh, so that's why I got two e-mails with a save and another blank one. ;)

[1889]

To Longshot

[Longshot]

and away it goes...

[MrWhereItsAt]

Back to the Aq.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[1889]

To Longshot

[1889]

I'll be gone July 3rd- July 11th.

Aqualung will be running things for me during that period.

[Longshot]

to MWIA...

[1889]

Also would anyone be interested in doing a few turns for me as the English?

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung.

And 1889, advertising where your opponents are might not be the best place to find a sub. :)

Try starting a new thread in the forum asking for a temporary replacement.

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Krill]

ok, I have an internet problem, so I have got to drop this game.

Here is the save

[Addled Platypus]

I am up and running and would like to pick up

let me know

[1889]

Wow Krill, sorry to hear that. I hope it dosn't really take all month to fix.

[Kloreep]

Yikes, sounds like some bad problems.

For 1889.

[1889]

Aqualung is running Babylon in my absence.

emailed to Longshot.

Posted because I'm not sure whats going on

[Longshot]

off to Mr Whats his face... :D

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung...

Can we get a quick summary of who is playing each civ now, who is supposed to team with who, and what email addresses are? I'm confused. :(

I play as the Romans, teamed with Kloreep of the...er.... not so sure here. Greeks?

My email is WHEEEEgranvisimo@studentDOT vuw dot ac DOT nz

The bit that isn't WHEEEE, that is.... :D

[Aqualung71]

PR, not sure what's up with your Apolyton membership, but apparently I can't send you messages. So, please send me your email address to akwalung71 at yahoo dot com or post it here.

Meanwhile, I'll post the turn here.

Klor - please send your turns to me while 1889 is away :)

[Aqualung71]

Ok guys, here's the deal:

Teams are:
MWIA (Rome) / Kloreep (Persia) :eek: eegads, we'll all give up now!
Aqualung71 (Carthage) / 1889 (Babylon) - for the next week or so I'll be playing 1889's turns, so Klor please send to me. Our civs have met, so please nobody have a coronary!
Platypus_Rex (Arabia) / Longshot (Greece) - PR has replaced Krill and I've asked him to post his email address.
All other email addresses are listed on the first post.

PR, your turn goes to Kloreep - see the first post for his email.

Let's play!!!

[Addled Platypus]

Mighty Platypi can be reached at

PREXT at msn dot com


My only issue is I am not able to download from the forums?

I will look into my profile settings

[Kloreep]

Downloaded the save and sent it to PR since he can't download

[Addled Platypus]

it's asking for a password


:hmmm:


and I am able to download from the forums now:bounce:

[Kloreep]

Whoops, Krill needs to tell you his password.

I've PMed Krill.

Edit: If Krill has no internet access at all, Aqualung may need to tell PR the admin password; only way around it.

[Addled Platypus]

off kloreep

[Kloreep]

For 1889

[Aqualung71]

Ah damn, seems I've been holding this game up :rant:

Sorry guys - didn't think to look here. Klor, maybe you could email me the turn next time (if 1889's not back by then).

on to Longshot

[Kloreep]

Whoops. :idiot: I forgot 1889 was away and you were filling in; he prefers to have his posted and just checks the thread every time poly e-mails him about it.

Anyway, yeah, I'll e-mail you in future.

[Longshot]

off to MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

Sorry I took so long - I actually got into work for a change! :eek:

To Aqua.

[Aqualung71]

on to Longshot

[Longshot]

Methinks Aqua is having a heck of a time with playing for 1889. :D

This is PR's turn... I'll forward it on. :)

[Addled Platypus]

to kloreep

[Kloreep]

1889's save to Aqualung

[Aqualung71]

2750BC on to Longshot

Have I got it right this time? :idiot: :D

[Longshot]

On to MWIA...

[MrWhereItsAt]

To Aqualung.

[Aqualung71]

to PR, 2710BC

[Addled Platypus]

to kloreep 2710

[Kloreep]

1889's save to Aqualung

[Aqualung71]

onto Longshot

[Longshot]

off to MrWhereItsAt

[1889]

Hello again. Just got back, and am ready to pick up.

Thanks Aqua.

[MrWhereItsAt]

On to Aqua.

[Aqualung71]

Welcome back, partner! :cool:

on to P-Rex

[Addled Platypus]

to kloreep

[Krill]

OK, as of next turn, I can play the turns again, after finally repairing the connection:D

So could you please send me the saves to me as of next turn?

[Aqualung71]

Let's take a vote on it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :scared:

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[1889]

to longshot

[Longshot]

Sorry for the delay. I had to go out of town and just now finally got my 'puter hooked up to the net.

Here is the turn in the event my email doesn't get to MWIA.

[Aqualung71]

onto Krill

[Aqualung71]

Posting the turn here for PRex if Krill can't play it, as per 1889's request :)

[Addled Platypus]

You guys say the word, then I will download

when needed

[Addled Platypus]

per 1889 request. I was 1 of the downloads

off to kloreep

[Kloreep]

2630 BC to 1889

[1889]

On to longshot.
One more turn down, 512 until retirement.

[Longshot]

played and sent to MWIA

[MrWhereItsAt]

Back to Aqua.

[Kloreep]

1889, did Aqualung leave you his password so you could play his turns, or are we going to wait for him to come back?

Edit: Re-read his post in the absence thread and I see he's not gone, just not available to play as frequently. :idiot:

[1889]

Read further down in that thread. I'm not expecting him back until mid-week. He didn't leave the code. Clearly he is a bad person.

[Krill]

1889, I have slightly irregular working hours, and I really need to repair this comoputer.

I did not get the emails from aqua until Friday, and I am unable to use the 'net from thursday night until either midday sunday or Sometime Monday. Today was wierd, because I needed to repair the computer, and get a new virus scanner/firewall working.


I am sorry for the delay. Hopefully I may be able to come to a nice compromise by getting someone else to play my saves on Weekends...

[1889]

Sorry Krill, I wasn't trying to cut you out of the game. Your last post on "absences" said for the fill-ins to play until Monday, so I passed that on.

[Aqualung71]

Yes, I am a very bad person! But I'm back :cute:

Turn posted below, since I can't work out who to send it to anymore!

[Krill]

Sent to Kloreep

[1889]

To Longshot

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[Longshot]

Interesting... 1889 sent me the turn even before Kloreep sent the file to him. :hmmm:

None the less... on to MWIA.

[Kloreep]

It took me a while to get to posting in this thread; if he sent it on in 10 or so minutes he could definitely have beaten me. :)

[MrWhereItsAt]

On to Aqua (2590BC).

[Aqualung71]

on to Krill

[Kloreep]

To 1889

[Longshot]

2550BC to Mr...

[MrWhereItsAt]

To the Waterman...

[Aqualung71]

to Krill

[Krill]

To Kloreep

[Kloreep]

2510 BC to 1889

[Longshot]

played and sent to MrWhereItsAt...

[MrWhereItsAt]

Went on to Aqua a while back.

[Aqualung71]

and has since gone on to Krill

[Krill]

and is now with Klo