the games workshop thread

[self biased]

seeing as it's somehow lacking... i'm going to start one up. anything games workshop goes here. wanna crusify Gav Thorpe? i want intimate details. discuss new minis, tactics and post your own conversions and paint jobs here.


what i'm currently pondering is a forge world purchase. and it's a doosey. should i get a thunderhawk, or a warhound titan?

thunderhawk:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/spacemarines/7.jpg
more pictures. (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/thunder1.htm)

the pinnacle forgeworld model for space marine players. "Armed with Lascannons, Heavy Bolters, Hellstrike missiles, a Battle Cannon or Turbo Laser, and carrying up to 30 fully armoured Space Marine troops, the Thunderhawk Gunship measures 19 inches/480mm long and 17 inches/440mm wide." a good sized model.

pros: i'll be able to use it in a game of 40k. it'll also look f*cking impressive in any display case you'd care to think of.
cons: "The US$ price for customers wishing to place an order by check is $640.00 + $50.00 express UPS shipping to US."

warhound titan:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/Paintwarhound3g.jpg
more pictures (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/QUATERMASTERS_STORE_TITANS_31.html)

think big. scary. that would be even the smallest of titans. "A extremely detailed model of the Lucius Pattern Warhound Titan 'Sanctus Venator' commanded by Princeps Hagan Raal. This model stands approximately 250mm/10.5 inches high depending on how the legs are constructed. not as large as the thunderhawk... but close.

pros: "The US$ price for customers wishing to place an order by check is $465.00 + $50.00 express UPS shipping to US. " not nearly as expensive by about $175. it'd also look nice next to the phantom titan on the coffee table.
cons: it'd be more or less a display piece. unless i wanted to start up a guard army. i suppose i could do something with my daemonhunters... but inquisitors don't normally get access to titan legions... do they?


so apolyton... here there be games workshop.

[Jamski]

OFMG!!!!!!!!!

What lunatic would use titans or dropships in a 40K game? How many points is a Warhound worth ? What could stop it? (other imperial armoured vehicles perhaps, if they don't get slagged first before the WH loses its sheilds.

And don't Warhounds normally operate in pairs...

AAAAAGH!

-Jam

[Space05us]

what game are those for?

[self biased]

warhammer 40,000, space. there's a yearly mega battle in new hampshire that i've gone once to. that's where i'd use them... besides... display pieces are always fun.

[self biased]

i'd like to take the time to show off some of my work...

Whirlwind Hyperios:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/whirlwindhyperios.jpg

tactical squad:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/squad2.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/squad3.jpg

razorback:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/razorback.jpg

[ravagon]

Yeesh.
I didn't know they had such models for 40K. I have a couple of Warhounds and an Imperator but that's for Epic scale.
Best bet - Make the models up yourself from old bits'n'pieces. Save the cash for the new table you'll need to deploy them on. ;)

Nice marines. Are they Dark Angels?

[self biased]

yeah. they are dark angels of a specific army. i didn't like the all green scheme when i first started painting, so when experimenting with second-generation marines, i painted a beakey marine with an ivory faceplate. it stuck, and became the army badge.

as for the gaming table, my roommate used to own a game store here in town, and we've got a full table in the attic, and two in the cellar. complete with terrain.

the titan and thunderhawk... bitz? plasticard? no. that's waaay too ambitious for my skill level... although i might make one of the newer titans to dwarf the phantom... but that's a project for next year.... thinking of which i should go check ebay.

[GhengisFarb™]

I've never played 40k, all my armies are WHFB.

[Jamski]

I was fool enough to play them all. I probably have a few thousand worth of old minatures now :( Haven't played since I left home, ummm... 9 years ago now :eek!:

-Jam

[GhengisFarb™]

Its a very expensive hobby, not quite as expensive as Cocaine, but close.

Unless you cast your own pirate figures. :cute:

[self biased]

... whatcha got, there jamski?

and did you ever think of returning...?

[self biased]

genestealer.

[self biased]

penitent engine.

[self biased]

death guard.

[Jamski]

... whatcha got, there jamski?
Lots:
W40K:
About 3,500 points Eldar
About 5,000 points Guard
About 4,500 points Ultramarines
Epic 40K:
About 35,000 points Guards
About 20,000 points Ultramarines
About 15,000 points Eldar
About 10,000 points Squats
About 40,000 points Titans :eek:
WFB:
All kinds of stuff.

Its all painted to about the standard of the pictures here, but maybe more "heraldic" in look than "battlefield" if you know what I mean, on nice green-flocked bases (better than yours ;) ) and there's a stack of unpainted stuff too.
The Guard armies are really huge amounts of figures, almost entirely infantry...

and did you ever think of returning...?
I'd LOVE to, if I had my figures and books here, if I had a set of opponents here, and if everyone was prepared to play on the old rules. I won't buy anymore though.

-Jam

[self biased]

my Dark Angels are flocked in a ashen wastes scheme... my Grey Knights are done up so that it looks like they're walking on burning coals, though i prefer the "heraldric" look myself.

if you've any desire to part with your collection, PM me or email me... i may be intrested in purchasing some of your vast collection.

[Jamski]

I'd love to get rid of it... its just the logistics problem.

Hmmm, if I ever think of a solution...

-Jam

[MattH]

$700 for a model? Eeek!

[Drogue]

:eek: And I thought it wass bad when i had to pay £40 for a Destroyer tank, although that was 40k version 2 rules. Why so much money? I mean sure they're a lot bigger, but over hear you can buy prepackaged 2000pt armies for under £200 ($300).

Originally posted by Jamski
I'd LOVE to, if I had my figures and books here, if I had a set of opponents here, and if everyone was prepared to play on the old rules. I won't buy anymore though.
I know what you mean. I'd love to play, but everyone plays 4th ed rules. I started at 2nd and did 1 game with 3rd (didn't like it as much though) but stopped a few years ago. I had a 3000pt Orc army, but I never got round to painting the 40 gretchen that were part of it.

[self biased]

it's more of the modeling thing for me.... i prefer to labor away at my minis, rather than buy some soulless bits of plastic and lead... painted by some stranger's hand...

4th is out in england? huh... we don't get it here until the end of this year. they're fixing hand to hand combat finally... hopefully they'll bring ramming back, too... tank shock just doesn't do it for me.

[Jamski]

I know what you mean. I'd love to play, but everyone plays 4th ed rules. I started at 2nd and did 1 game with 3rd (didn't like it as much though) but stopped a few years ago. I had a 3000pt Orc army, but I never got round to painting the 40 gretchen that were part of it.

Perhaps next time I come to England...?

-Jam

[self biased]

for some reason i've gotten it up my ass to convert a land raider: (shown below) into a leman russ tank. i'm currently thinking about turrets for said tank.

ryza pattern turret:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/Ryzalr3store.jpg

gryphone pattern turret:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/g4vanq.jpg

stygies pattern turret:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/s8vanq.jpg

land raider:
(side view)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/spacemarines/landraiderarmour2.jpg

(three quarter view)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/spacemarines/landraiderarmour6.jpg

this will result in a bigger, beefier leman russ... but which turret should i use?

[self biased]

i bought this thing for a friend's birthday back in may of last year. it hadn't been out of the box until i told him i'd paint it for him for christmas. now for today's episode of this old wave serpent.


[see redux]

as always these pictures are courtesy the sprint crappy picture phone.

youre comments are welcome.

[Jamski]

Its GOT to be the Ryza pattern turret. The others have too long a barrel length for the trackbase, especially mounted so high. Its a bit more blocky, but it looks more "realistic".

Bill Fogerty???????

-Jam

[self biased]

the trackbase is going to be larger because i'm using the landraider as a base... but the vanquisher turrets have those storm bolters, and i think they look silly.

i've got a "this old wave serpent" thread on another site... it was a joke, but i've done some of my best work yet on this wave serpent.


and introducing sergeant hamlet:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet01.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet02.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet03.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet04.jpg

[self biased]

more of sergeant hamlet.

http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet05.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet06.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet07.jpg

but why is he already named? just look at him. it should become obvious when i give hin the skull in his right hand. "alas poor yorrick..."

[Frankychan]

Cool pics.

I had a Valhallan Imperial Guard unit. Painted them to look like a variant of communist red guards. They all had red cloaks, 3 Leman Russ', 1 Chimera, and 1 Demolisher. (along with some Ratling snipers)

It was great when my friends who also had Imp. Guard Armies all banded together against my friend with a big a** Dark Angel Space Marine army.......we almost lost. rofl.

[self biased]

thanks. the lads over at portent like my conversion work, as well.

and also, for what perverse reason do i like the flying base more than anything else on that wave serpent?

[self biased]

a table top wargame. you buy models, assemble, paint, and then play.

[Frankychan]

Rofl.

What is your Chapter for the Space marines? Dark Angel or a custom one?

(BTW, I like the marine w/the lightning claws)

But my Commissar could whoop his a**!!!

[self biased]

i do have a spare commisar yarrick model lying around somewhere (one of the benefits of living with someone who used to own a game store)... i could put a little sign that says "alas poor yarrick, i knew him well!" and put the good commissar's head in hamlet's hand.


the chapter is dark angels. i use the bone facemask on the helmets as an Army Badge, as opposed to coming up with a creative design.

[Jamski]

the chapter is dark angels. i use the bone facemask on the helmets as an Army Badge, as opposed to coming up with a creative design.

Heh, my Ultras had a yellow diamond on the left shin-guard. Now THAT'S creative ;)

How have you made Serg. Hamlet's under-ams look so good? The arms and L.Claws are "borrowed from a Termi, yes? And the shoulder pads are normal MkVII, but I can't see the join. What did you use?

-Jam

[Frankychan]

Nice. My old Valhallan army is collecting dust....ah the good old days.


Best game I ever played was where my Vindicare Assassin had to kill a diplomat under Space Marine escort. (a scenario my friends and I made up).

My assassin almost killed him too but the marines found him in a belltower and shot a rocket at him. :(

Almost.....

what are your best games, guys?

[self biased]

Raw Materials:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgtim.gif
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgtclwl.gifhttp://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgtclwr.gif

tools: pin vice, brass rod, dremel tool, clippers, superglue, various and sundry files, guitar string, and the ubiquitous "green stuff" putty.

1. sawed off right arm just above elbow using dremel. ground down nub for left arm a little.

2. sawed off shoulder pads on lightning claws, and cables.

3. positioned and pinned claws in place.

4. resculpted joints of the lightning claws, and covered the seams.
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet03.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet04.jpg

5. drilled a series of ultimately awkward holes and attatched power cables from the claws to the back pac mount.

6. sculpted couplings for the power cables.

**

that's it, really.

[Jamski]

:lol: "...and then I just sculpted the couplings... " WOW, that's all I can say. It really looks like a bought model. If it wasn't for the fact that I recognised the parts...

what are your best games, guys?

I have fond memories of laying down enough artillery fire with my Epic 40k Guard army to completely cover my brother's entire army with "pie plates" After that we made an "agreement" that it was only allowed to take 2 regiments of any particular troops, although I "broke" the deal by including a regiment of Squat Mole Mortars and Thudd Guns in the next game. *snigger* The other great memory from Epic 40K was taking out my brother's Imperator Titan with my first shots of the game, before it could fire once. Sweet vortex missiles of love.

-Jam

[self biased]

a freind of mine crashed his falcon in a treestand and the contents (striking scorpions) came spilling out. a passer by said: "oh, so it's eldar that Sh!t in the woods. all this time i thought it was bears."

[Jamski]

/me titters *

I was always amused by rolling 40+d6 for all the 6+ hits needed with lots of crappy guns.

(BTW - freind is spelt friend. In your post and your sig.)

-Jam

[self biased]

i rolled forty-three ones consecutively once. this was shortly after my appearance in White Dwarf.

[Jamski]

When were you in White Dwarf? If it was in the last 7 years or so, I probably missed it ;)

-Jam

[self biased]

WD# 238. the mordheim issue. october 1999.

[Jamski]

Missed it :( Can you scan the article pehaps ?

-Jam

[self biased]

if i had the article, and a scanner, i would. my copy of that white dwarf got lost in the move to or from texas.

[Jamski]

I blame Bush then.

-Jam

[Frankychan]

:lol:


I still think my Commissar can take down that lightning clawed marine.

........with 3 accompanying squads. :lol: Just kidding.

I tried doing my own conversions but I sucked a** at it. Except for Necromunda models. My Delaque was the shiz-nit.

[self biased]

pic?

[self biased]

i've got turret's syndrome.
[see redux]
these are both "finished" aside from minor touch ups.

[Jamski]

Looking good, I have to say. Not a big fan of your handy-camera though ;)

-Jam

[self biased]

hey. its a facking cell phone. i'm thankful for it, though. it's proved infinitely more useful than i originally thought.

[Jamski]

A handy IS a facking cell-phone.

/me notes that the words "cell phone" were not in italics *
/me worries *

-Jam

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Jamski
A handy IS a facking cell-phone.
-Jam
Wow, learn new European slang words every day.:lol:

[Jamski]

I just assumed everyone knew that :hmmm:

-Jam

[General Ludd]

I've got a bunch of plastic space marines and a couple of rhinos packed away somewhere... it's a pitty I never knew anyone who played Warhammer, or even knew how to play myself. :lol: Cool figures, though. it was fun putting them together and painting them. :)

[self biased]

then that's all that matters, really Osweld.

[self biased]

the stones are done!
[see redux]
so there.

[Jamski]

I always enjoyed painting gemstones. Highlight LIGHTER at the bottom, and add a white spot on the top. Simple trick, but BOY did it make my Eldar look good.

-Jam

[self biased]

haven't had time to paint, but almost done. just have to hardline the blue and gloss up the jemstones. after i buy some gloss varnish. and then it's back to the lads.

[self biased]

and, i'm done! i wanna paint an eldar army now... but i've got forty something marines to paint yet, two full platoons of guardsmen for my daemon hunters, the leman russ conversion... maybe next year in august i can get to an eldar army.

[Frankychan]

holy crap, that's freakin' sweet. :b:

Shoot, you could just buy the model and paint it...then sell that bad boy on eBay. Do you just collect and paint them, or do you participate in tournaments as well?

[self biased]

i'm not good enough to make my efforts back on ebay. i do whore myself out to others who don't have the time, patience, or talent. usually charging what the figures cost to paint them. my friend duane has won a golden demon. he could make a little bit of money on ebay...

i play, but not as much as i'd like to. there's also the fact that i'm re-doing my army, because my old minis weren't taken care of when i moved to texas. that, and my painting has gone up a notch or seven since some of those things were painted. i plan on scavenging what bitz i can and selling the rest on ebay.

[self biased]

monday sgt hamlet will get a coat of primer. hopefully caught up with the rest of the lads.

[self biased]

wave serpent redux: one.

[self biased]

wave serpent redux: two.

[self biased]

wave serpent redux: three.

[self biased]

wave serpent redux: final.

[self biased]

http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet10.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet08.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/sgthamlet09.jpg

beginning work. primary hardlining done. he's officially caught up with the rest of the lads. i've also got all but seven or eight of the backpacks done (out of forty or so). then on to arms, shoulder pads, and i think i'll strap myself down and go for bolters and random red bits.

[Jamski]

I've gotta move to whereever SB lives and play a game against these fantastic looking figs.

-Jam

[self biased]

i'll aslo be chronicling the progress of my chaplain.

[self biased]

there will be much painting of space marines this day.

[self biased]

i lied. there was not much painting of space marines today. instead i binged and finished sergeant hamlet.

[sergeant hamlet]

[self biased]

[sergeant hamlet]

[self biased]

[sergeant hamlet]

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[sergeant hamlet]

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[sergeant hamlet]

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[sergeant hamlet]

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[sergeant hamlet]

[Frankychan]

Damn, you even detail your base.............I know some people who paint great models but don't bother with the base....they say they don't want to make a base that might conflict with the terrain.

I usually did my bases in urban-style detail...when I bothered to do them at all.

[Jamski]

Bloody hell, he looks good :b:

Very nice work - almost too well painted to play with.

-Jam

[self biased]

i'm changing my approach. i'm going to try to finish an entire tactical squad each week. i'm to the point where assembly lining my lads is just too goddamn mind numbing. so, that's going to be my goal. and, without further ado, let's meet some of sgt hamlet's lads, shall we?

[self biased]

[brother falling-leaf]

http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/broleaf4.jpg

[self biased]

[brother elias]

http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/broelias4.jpg

[self biased]

okay. i've got twenty marines left. my goal is to be finished with my rank and file before my birthday, march 21st. actually that'll be by the 19th, as i'm going to nyc the 20th. then, i'll finish my rhinos and razorbacks, and start on my heroes. i've got a chaplain started, followed by a lieutenant level hero, and my grand master.

for the lieutenant, i've used this dark angels veteran sergeant:
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/hero.gif

i've removed his head and replaced it with a helmet. for some reason the idea of marine running around without helmets on doesn't sit too well with me. i've also repositioned the chainsword so it looks like he's taking a swing, rather than waving the damn thing over his head like a fairy.

next is the grand master:
http://www.duckblindminiatures.com/alec/vetsarge1-1.jpg
[figure painted by mathew hunt (www.duckblindminiatures.com). used for reference purposes only]

this is a limited edition figure, used for promotion during grand tournaments and whatnot. he comes witha bolt pistol, but like mathew, i've replaced it in favor of a plasma pistol. but i didn't use Cypher's pistol, just a garden variety plasma pistol. i'm contemplating instead of using the antennae that i've become so fond of (and seeing as i've run out) that i'll be getting some servoskulls and model them buzzing around my guy.

[self biased]

:dusts off some cobwebs:

i've got but six more lads to finish. i should have some decent pics in a few days.

[Jamski]

You have no idea how many memories this thread gives to me. Keep them coming, Mr Biased, keep those pictures coming.

I'd like to read a report if they ever get an outing in battle too.

-Jam

[Frankychan]

Since you two are the only ones that seem to know what GamesWorkshop is, can I ask you what the heck is the Tau?

I've seen some of their models and graphic art and they look awesome. I'm thinking of collecting some just for fun, but I want to know who they are and their story/motivation/whatevers.

[Jamski]

You'll have to ask Self Biased. I stopped buying and reading GW stuff about 8 years ago (apart from Ian Watson's fantastic books)

-Jam

[self biased]

the Tau are a budding and overall optimistic race in the 40k universe. they know how their technology works, and they're aggresively expanding their empire, but in a "kinder, gentler" sort of way.

[Footie Mad]

Tried to play 40k a few years ago but I just sucked at painting the models :(
Always thought chaos space marines looked coolest though.

[self biased]

BURN THE HERETIC!

ahem. it's easy to get a little too far out of control with chaos models, though. there's only so much blood, gore and viscera that is simply feasable on a mini.

willie, did you have fun playing? if so, i can be convinced to paint a small army for you for a pittiance. just let me know.

[Footie Mad]

Well yeah it was pretty fun but i mostly played against this guy who knew the tactics and rules real well and got my ass kicked.

[Footie Mad]

On a different matter, anyone else seen the new 40k computer game being developed? Looks pretty sweet. You're supposed to be playing as a warrior of the newly introduced race (Tau?) in an FPS setting and battling against the other races. I don't think all races are implemented though.

[self biased]

Fire Warrior? i haven't played it, but i heard it kinds sucked ass... typical lackluster performance from GW....


in other news i finished the lads, and even got to take them out on a test run. it ended badly. against eldar, at 2:1 model ratio... i was killed to the man. granted i didn't have but twenty minis on the board... and he had about 40... but still... damned banshees made quick work out of my leader.

[self biased]

the lads in action.

[Footie Mad]

Cool, do you always play space marines? What races are the hardest to play in your opinion? Eldar requires that you use mobility to the max I suppose bit I haven't played with for example Tyranid so it would be interesting to know where the different factions differ in general gameplay.

[self biased]

i've only played marines at this point. this is a second generation army, too. meaning there will be more marines to paint, to come.

but from what i can tell, eldar don't rely on their mobility as much as say, the tyranids, or dark eldar do. tau are also a very mobile race. the only problem with tau is that your average fire warrior has a BS of 2. guardsmen hit on 3+ and that's saying something.

as for the others... i guess they're still by and large the same, or at least similar. i haven't been playing much lately, although that's going to change as my roommate is going to start playing third edition like the rest of the world. he's exceptionally biased towards second edition, but he wants to play... so, it's not like he's got much of a choice.

[self biased]

mmm.... forgeworld 40k scale scorpion tank. sooo much better than the last one they did. it actually looks like an eldar tank this time....

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Eldar/scorpb3.jpg

[self biased]

http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/lads001.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/lads002.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/lads003.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/lads004.jpg
http://selfbiased.diaryland.com/images/lads005.jpg

i've finished my marines. i'm still working on my chaplain, and another veteran sergeant. more heavy weapons are to come, too. although they'll be a little more animated, as i've cannibalized my assault squad for the bodies. but for those that have begged for better pictures, here they are... until i can get my cousin to take some uber high quality pics.

[Footie Mad]

Pretty nifty. No terminators?

[self biased]

not yet. they're getting a resculpt late this year or early next... i've got enough to keep me busy paintwise... i'm going to finish up my dark angels, and move onto my guardsmen. when the new terminator minis are released, i'll pick up a squad or two.

[self biased]

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain007.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain006.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain005.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain004.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain003.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain001.jpg

and one with a flash. it looks like a battle shot.
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/chaplain002.jpg

so my main commander is finished, and i'm working on a junior inquisitor... hopefully i'll be able to get around to finishing all those half done vehicles, too. and ugh. my dreadnought. i so don't want to paint that thing for some reason. but, i'm almost there. the bulk of the work is finished.

[Lazerus]

:eek: Damn how long does it take you to make+paint these ?

[self biased]

interrogator-chaplain maynard [previous post] took me about ten hours to paint and assemble. basic marines [above] take anywhere between three and five hours, depending on random factors.

sergeant hamlet took about twelve hours to assemble and paint. he is a favorite of mine, as is Chaplain Maynard is quickly becoming.

[self biased]

bump

[Jamski]

WOW! I love Mr Skullhead the chaplain :b:

You know why you don't want to paint the Dread - its got a HUGE surface area of flat panels, and then loads of details as well. Its going to be a PITA.

-Jam

[self biased]

i did a wave serpent and was enraptured by it. and my forgeworld order has come in, so i can star ton my lieutennant and grand master...

[self biased]

started on the grand master... and one man in his retinue. it's hard to beleive that i'm nearing completion of my army. i want to get some landspeeders, an attack bike squad... a few more heavy weapon marines and a preadator tank to round out my heavy support choices. i've got two dreadnoughts already, so maybe a full squad of terminators once the new ones are released. also, i'm in the planning stages of converting a librarian from the ezekiel model...

but the daemonhunters are my priority starting in may.

[self biased]

the guardsmen are coming. 5 of 40 assembled.

[Jamski]

I always look forward to these updates.

/me grabs a good seat *

Anyway, on the general subject of the thread, does anyone know anything about "Warhammer 40,000 - Dawn of War" The screenshots look beautiful, and the no-harvesters system sounds interesting. Anyone know what races and units will make the game?

-Jam

[Bosh]

Damn do some of you spend a lot of money on those models. I always just used Lego men, Risk pieces, a stuffed animal or two for the big things and whatever else I had on hand. Played a good bit of Warhammer (the medieval one, not the space one) with my brother that way.
I almost always played Skaven against his Chaos, and I just loved smoking the giant monsters he always blew most of his points on with warplock jezzels, except for the time when I let him have as many points worth of critters and he made his entire army able to fly :eek:

[self biased]

no idea. i'll troll Portent and Dakka dakka to find out.

[self biased]

current timetable of events:

october 2003 - april 2004 dark angels. 90 percent completed.
i've just got some odds and ends to finish up. i want to do a librarian conversion, add some more heavy weapons, and finish a squad of landspeeders, and a squad of attack bikes. edit: also new terminators when they come out.

may 2004 - october 2005 daemonhunters. 40 percent completed.
one squad of terminators, one squad of knights in power armor completed. working on the first full platoon, and i plan to do another. need stormtroopers, and to finish my leman russ conversion.

december 2005 - december 2006 eldar. preliminary planning.
mostly so i can field those wonderful superheavy tanks from forgeworld.

winter 2007 thousand sons. preliminary planning.
i've got a nice color scheme planned out, but that's about it.

[Jamski]

Winter 2007???? :eek:

Who can plan their life that far in advance?

I don't even know where I'll be living next month.

-Jam

[self biased]

just giving myself ample time to complete my projects, jamski. i have some preliminary figures done on my daemonhunter guardsmen, i may post them in a few.

[self biased]

i was finally buggered this afternoon to take some goddamned pics. strap yourselves in, gents. this will be a long update. especially if you're powerd by 56k modems.

grey knights in power armor
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights07a.jpg

grey knight with incinerator
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights09a.jpg

grey knights in terminator armor
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights01a.jpg

grey knight brother-captain
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights02a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights03a.jpg

grey knight terminators with incinerator
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights04a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights05a.jpg

grey knight terminator
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/knights06a.jpg

inquisitor
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/inquisitor06a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/inquisitor04a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/inquisitor01a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/inquisitor05a.jpg

inducted guard test model
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/guard03.jpg

work in progress: dark angels grand master
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/grandmaster01a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/grandmaster05a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/grandmaster04a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/grandmaster03a.jpg

and because i can, more of sergeant hamlet
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/hamlet01a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/hamlet02a.jpg
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/hamlet03a.jpg

and a photo of my workspace:
http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/projects.jpg

[Jamski]

Words fail me SB. I can only repeat myself - these figures are too sweet to game with.

The GK terms are fantastic. I have to admit that the new minatures lack some of the "bulk" that made the old GK models so cool, but they kinda make up for it with the snazzy angles and styling.

Way to go, man! :b:

Just one thing - shouldn't they have their names written on the "scroll" on the right pauldron?

-Jam

[self biased]

i'm not good at lettering. they should, but i'm going to have a friend of mine do it for me... like the servo skull on the grand master? he's going to have another one too at the top of that other post.

[self biased]

terminators are finally being updated! YAAAY! some Work in Progress sneak peaks.

[self biased]

without helmet

[self biased]

forgeworld is releasing "mortis" pattern dreadnoughts. a few years ago during their "hunt for the fallen" battle tour (which i of course took part of, and even had my picture published in white dwarf), they had a peculiar dreadnought named saul. he was armed with a pair of twinlinked heavy bolters. they're now releasing this style in heavy bolter and autocannon flavors.

[self biased]

autocannon dreadnought

[self biased]

been a while since i've updated. i'm currently working on finishing up the last few bits of my dark angels. i may even get to my dreadnought soon. but right now it's heavy weapons. i'll post as soon as i'm done.

i've also gotten my girlfriend into painting... she's doing a pair of unicorns. i'm also doing the new morgan la fey model for her... she doesn't know it though... it started out as a birthday present, but will likely end up a christmas present for her.

[self biased]

the devastators have been finished... i'll take pictures tomorrow, when i have better lighting available.

[self biased]

for thses guys, i had stripped the metal weapons, and used some assault marine plastics i had laying around, half painted. the paint was a little thick in some areas, but i think they came out well enough considering. i also experimented with a new way of doing bone using graveyard earth as a basecoat, then bleached bone, then skull white. i am immensely pleased with the outcome. i just have to remember to keep my paints thin to keep the smooth coat.

[heavy bolters]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/heavybolter01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/heavybolter02.jpg

[plasma cannon]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/plasmacannon01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/plasmacannon02.jpg

[lascannon]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/lascannon03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/lascannon02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/lascannon01.jpg
[caption: "I GOT ONE! I GOT ONE!"]

my next erm... interim project is some battlefleet gothic imperial cruisers, a chaos battleship, and hopefully finishing up the four dozen chaos or so i've got laying around, half completed.

[self biased]

eldar revenant scout titan.

[self biased]

[revanent scout titan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/rev16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/rev15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/rev8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/rev11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/rev10.jpg

looks like i've got another reason to start an eldar force.

[self biased]

some old figs, some new. enjoy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a04.jpg
miscelaneous veteran sergeant. hands and power sword are from the asmodai model.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a07.jpg
brother falling-leaf. nothing special, really, but i do like the scope on the the backpack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-009F.jpg
miscelaneous veteran sergeant two. sheild, and BFG antenna added.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-007F.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-008F.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/a10.jpg
veteran sergeant hamlet. took terminator lightning claws, and sergeant body #010111201. did a little sculpting and added guitar strings as power couplings. plastic skull used from skeleton regiment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-001F.jpg
razorback. chaos spikey bit used as halo for lascannons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-004F.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/MVC-005F.jpg
hyperios whirlwind variant: £16.00
extra armor: £12.00
rhino chassis: £15.00
the look on your opponent's face when you put a $75.00 vehichle into play: priceless.

[self biased]

grey knights with psycannon.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c02.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/c01.jpg

[self biased]

dark angels grand master.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/d04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/d03.jpg

dark angels dreadnought.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/d02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/d01.jpg

[self biased]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/dec05a03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/dec05a02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/dec05a01.jpg

one down, two to go. my hardlining's getting better, though.

[Barinthus]

Nice nice :)

Even although I don't do those stuff, I enjoy your updates and resulting discussions.

[self biased]

thanks. i figure with all my plus one-ing in this thread someone else might join in... anyway, the heads aren't stock. i added the hose and sculpted arount it to give it a more flight school style look.

[self biased]

i've recieved my forgeworld dreanought. the ball is rolling again.

[self biased]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/signatures/wache1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/signatures/wache2.jpg

it looks like tyranids might be in my future.

[self biased]

yeah, i know i know... i've not been around in a while. but i'm getting back into schedule, so we'll have regular updates from me.

swooping hawk, doing a squad for a friend for christmas. deadline is may first. his birthday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/mermaids/hawk.jpg

venerable dreadnought.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/vendread02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/vendread01.jpg

[Jamski]

Once again, you are the AWESOME.

Now, a question. Do you have the album "Oblivion" released by Warhammer Records about 12 years ago? It featured Brian May, IIRC.

-Jam

[self biased]

can't say that i do.

[Jamski]

Darn, its really really rare :(

-Jam

[MORON]

damn u rich folks with too much time......

[General Ludd]

I just dug out my old space marines, and they are alot smaller than I remember... about an inch tall at the most. Is that the standard size?

How big are those dreadnaughts?

[self biased]

the dreadnought is on a sixty millimeter base.

[self biased]

engineseer techpreist. the guard have been started.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/daemonhunters/engineseer01.jpg

[self biased]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command003.jpg

the guard have once again been postponed.

[self biased]

yeah, so how about some of those pictures i've been promising for ages...

[missile launchers] two of three shown
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/missiles01.jpg

[multimelta] i'm rather proud of the way the cables came out. which reminds me to pick up some genuine snakebite leather, rather than mixing it every time i need it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/multimelta01.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/multimelta02.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/multimelta03.jpg

[command squad] yeah, these guys. i still need to add static grass to everyone, but they've seen action since being "finished"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/command006.jpg

[Agathon]

Nice job SB. I was a slightly worse painter than you, but my brother was top notch (he had an orc army).

I used to love this game when it first came out, but the 2nd edition rules ruined it IMHO. The army lists I hated and the miniatures, while cool looking, lost the minimalist aesthetic of the original ones. I kept my first edition rules for years and my brother and I would still play the odd game against each other.

When they changed the Eldar to include the silly and overpowered Aspect Warriors, I gave up playing in the community. That's about the same time that White Dwarf became a load of ****.

Nevertheless, on the subject of GW I still think that the original Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay is the best roleplaying game ever created. It was simple, yet incredibly flexible and didn't lend itself to power gaming in the way that AD&D did.

[self biased]

eldar guardian. i think i may end up scrapping my daemonhunters altogether in favor of eldar. they get a revamp next summer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/mermaids/guardian03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/mermaids/guardian02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/mermaids/guardian01.jpg

[Footie Mad]

I always found chaos space marines the coolest faction, you haven't done any of those?

[self biased]

heretic! i am loyal to the beneficent emperor.

[self biased]

[deathwing terminator sergeant]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies006.jpg


the fabled new plastic terminators, with a little help from forgeworld. they're a little harder to put together than i thought it would be. cleaning up the mold lines was an express pain in the ass. also, the heads were attatched to the sprues in a rather curious spot as well. thank goodness a halfway decent paint job does well to cover those up.

[self biased]

huzzah!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/darkangels/termies010.jpg

[Agathon]

Those are excellent.

When I was living in England the local GW branch had some stuff from the Golden Demon awards, and your work is very close to that standard.

You ever try some of their LOTR miniatures? They used to have some really good ones back in the 80s, but the new ones aren't too bad.

I miss the 80s Citadel stuff. They had many amusing miniature. My favourite was the scrollbearer. This poor wizard's apprentice whose face was obscured by the huge pile of scrolls he was carrying.

[self biased]

thanks for the flattery, agathon, but my painting is nowhere near GD standards. what was nice about the early citadel era was that there was a lot of creativity. what was bad was that most armies weren't as unified as they are now with their imagery.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by self biased
thanks for the flattery, agathon, but my painting is nowhere near GD standards. what was nice about the early citadel era was that there was a lot of creativity. what was bad was that most armies weren't as unified as they are now with their imagery.

It's certainly near the GD standards of the very early 90s, which is when I was paying attention. I take it that it has become more hardcore since then.Like I said, my brother could probably give you a run for your money, but I don't know many people who paint as well as you.

I guess things are different now then.

That's true about the armies: I really miss the old Games Workshop. I kept the Warhammer Roleplay manual around for years just for the artwork.

[joncha]

Originally posted by Agathon
I miss the 80s Citadel stuff. They had many amusing miniature. My favourite was the scrollbearer. This poor wizard's apprentice whose face was obscured by the huge pile of scrolls he was carrying.

:lol: I had the very one. Good stuff.

[Unspeakable Horror]

Pictures! :doitnow!:

By the way, great stuff Self Biased :b:

[Kataphraktoi]

Those whatchyamacallem dudes are sweet! :b: do you play table top games with them or they just pose for the camera?

[Kataphraktoi]

Originally posted by Jamski
Once again, you are the AWESOME.

Now, a question. Do you have the album "Oblivion" released by Warhammer Records about 12 years ago? It featured Brian May, IIRC.

-Jam

google search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dc%2B%2B&btnG=Google+Search)

:cute:

[self biased]

Originally posted by Kataphraktoi
Those whatchyamacallem dudes are sweet! :b: do you play table top games with them or they just pose for the camera?

i play, but poorly. i'm scheduled to undergo re-education in the coming months.

[Agathon]

I remember the Warhammer music releases, back when GW were great.

I really miss the old GW. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay was hands down the best RPG I ever played. Its expansive career system ruined me for all other pen and paper RPGs: my favourite character was a highwayman I had (with a pair of silver embossed guns paid for by previous larceny). There's nothing finer than clearing out a Skaven infested dungeon beneath a damned village as a Gamekeeper in company with a Troll Slayer, a Rat Catcher, a Wizard's Apprentice, and a Beggar.

GW should really sue Blizzard for the latter's ripping off of the "look and feel" of their fantasy games. World of Warcraft might as well have been designed by GW circa 1989, except that GW's sense of humour was more sophisticated than Blizzard's.

[self biased]

there is that, but there have been many staff changes at GW as well.

they've re-released warhammer fantasy roleplaying, though. might be worth it to you to take a look.

[self biased]

my god, it's full of stars.

40k scale manta.

[General Ludd]

And how many thousands of dollars does that cost? :rolleyes:

[self biased]

it's about nine hundred pounds. though forgeworld's models while nice aren't necisary.

[self biased]

"is that eldar on your breath or are you just happy to see me?"

jim:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/jim05.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/jim04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/jim03.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/jim02.jpg

bob:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/bob02.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/bob03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/bob04.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/selfbiased/eldar/bob05.jpg

more an experiment in basecoats, than anything else. the jury's still out as to which looks better, but i'm leaning towards white, myself.