So far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN

Please add the rest BUT ONLY if you have seen clear evidence that they are in on a snapshot, or on an magazine article or in the Firaxis site.

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
VIKINGS ARE IN

I believe you that the boat looks like a longboat of the vikings but since we are not 100% sure I'll take out the Vikings for now. I am sure they are in anyhow.

Thank you Snapcase for the pointer
Thank you tempti about the Aztecs

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN

The text is:

«Want to trade your World Map and Bronze Working for a Spearman and Communications with the Indians? No problem. Want to offer a Peace Treaty to the Iroquois, but only if they will pay 5 gold per turn? Just make the demand.»

But we already have the Aztecs. Are we sure that Soren Johnson (Firaxis programmer that wrote the text) didn't just mention the Iroquois as a mere example?

So we know for sure that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN

Awaiting new input (if there is any yet)

quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 on 05-13-2001 08:09 PM GREEKS ARE IN AMERICANS ARE IN GERMANS ARE IN CHINESE ARE IN ROMANS ARE IN FRENCH ARE IN RUSSIANS ARE IN ZULUS ARE IN ENGLISH ARE IN AZTECS ARE IN

The Sioux are in: PC- IGN Sioux Advisor

Al Kimiya,
I don't think any of these civs will be minor. The matter is open for debate of course assuming you (or anyone else) can point out the exact information we have about minor civs.

Thank you Serapis about the indian leader,
Can someone with a knowledge of the Indians of America give some suggestions about the identity of this indian leader?
This leader in connection with the Iroquois example that roman pointed out strongly suggests Iroquois (no matter that the Aztecs are certaintly in as well).

Thank you Ralf about the Japanese,
This unit looks positevily like a Samurai warrior.

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
JAPANESE ARE IN

Do we know for certain that the number of civs will be exactly 16?

Keep your information and opinions coming Apolytoners.

quote: Originally posted by SerapisIV on 05-14-2001 01:09 PM I'd call it a possibility, but when you're looking at a couple pixel unit how much difference can be made between a Japanese and Chinese unit?

Anyone shares this opinion as well?

I didn't read your opinion when I was posting Serapis because I was posting at the same time as you.

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
JAPANESE ARE IN (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_media.jsp?media=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fpc%2Fnews%2Funits.jpg
INDIAN TRIBE IS IN (we are not sure which one yet)

Do we know for certain that the number of civs will be exactly 16?

Are Canadians in?????
Where the hell is Guam???

Also plz have a look at civ III section in Apolyton. Look at the face of that guy next to the indian leader. Is this Genghis Chan?

I am pretty sure the other picture is the leader of the Iriquois. Those huts in the backround look like Iriquois construction... They were mentioned elsewhere too, so I'm pretty sure they're in.

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
EGYPTIANS ARE IN
INDIANS ARE IN

12 confirmed - 4 to go. (16 civs will be included in CIV 3)

JAPANESE (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_media.jsp?media=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fpc%2Fnews%2Funits.jpg

INDIAN TRIBE IS IN(possibly Iroquois or maybe Sioux - see the thread for hints)

MONGOLS (open for debate, see leader in civ iii page of Apolyton)

quote: Originally posted by SilverDragon on 05-14-2001 07:27 PM Egypt is in, and so is India. There are seven screenshots of leaders in Computer Gaming World: Mao Tse Tung An Egyptian pharoah Abraham Lincoln Caesar Mahatma Ghandi Joan of Arc Elizabeth I

RRR its Mao Zedong why wont they change that!! pinyin!!! not wades!!

I think they have pretty much the same as in civ2, at least that what it looks like so far.

quote: Originally posted by ancient on 05-14-2001 08:04 PM And about the Iroquois, the Iroqouis at its hight had only about 1 million people making it smaller than the Incas, Aztecs, Mayans or Sioux it had no identifiably unique units, its only unique features are it had a very advanced govternment and it was the first strong alliance between several tribes. So because of that I dont think it would be a good candidate for a Pre-made Civ.

This is true, but the Iriquois were also the CIvilization closest to the Americans in power in Northern America... the Iriquois nation was the most organized and probably the largest united and coherent native american nation.

quote: Originally posted by JamesJKirk on 05-14-2001 09:35 PM So do all these leader faces mean that we're losing the ability of the civs to be governed by people of either sex?

They did the same with SMAC: you can customize leader name, gender etc. but you end with the same face. How silly! I chosed a female University Leader (Madame Curie, BTW) to give women their merits, but I get the same mad scientist with green/red glasses

I'm sure the: Celts and Spanish will get in

and i'm pretty sure that is a picture of a Mongol (Genghis Kahn perhaps)

Some official words would be nice