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vonManstein
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London, Ontario, Canada
Feb 2001
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Originally posted by BeBro on 04-29-2001 07:26 AM
Just to debate a bit...

vonManstein, I disagree, the Tiger and TigerII had a bigger turret and a longer gun. They as well as the Panther were not as tall as the vehicleion the pic. Compared with the so called Panzer Tank above the vehicle can´t be one of the tanks you mentioned (a Panther or Tiger was at least as broad as the Panzer Tank (if it is a P III or P IV )

Ahhhhhhhhhh darn.

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I now doubt it is a Tiger. A Panther I don't think it is as well, due to the turret. What I think it might have been was the Tiger II with the Krupp turret. The Tiger II's turret in proportion it it's chassis wasn't that large. Of course, I'm just going from memory, since those pics won't show now.

I think the difference between the generic Panzer tank and the Tiger II is that it would represent a Heavy Tank class in the same time period of the generic Panzer. That way we could progress through time without there being a large leap from a medium Panzer tank to a M1 Abrams.

Although that begs the question, what mark Panzer tank does "Panzer tank" represent? It appears to be a Pz. IV with the short 75mm gun (so it could be an A to F1 mark).

Oh well, not like it really matters, we're playing Civ3, not Panzer Commander or Panzer Elite or West Front or Combat Mission or etc. etc.

Leonidas
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Canada
May 2000
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My first impression of that lower left armoured vehicle is that it is a Bradly fighting vehicle. Also, it might, and I say, might represent a generic Sherman tank, although, its design would be a bit off.

We are dealing with an artist's conception here, at an early stage in the game, so it might change in time to truly resemble what it actually is.

Nice work Snapcase

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Atahualpa
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of my castle (somewhere in at)
Mar 99
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Bradley it is!

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Aias
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Hammond IN USA
May 2001
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The "ship" in the second row, second from left, is a WW II era landing craft.

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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
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Just to make sure for those who haven't read a reaction I gave on someone who asked what panzer means, the first time some of these pictures were shown on the FIRAXIS-site.
Saying panzer-tank somehow is a pleonasm, it would mean tank-tank. Panzer (=pantser in dutch) in german means armour. The official designation for a tank in german was/is Panzerkampfwagen (Pzkw), meaning "armoured battlecar". Usually the germans use(d) just the word panzer when they talk(ed) about tanks. It's not somesort of animal.
The last three types of Pzkw's (P-IV, V, VI) had names: Panther; Tiger; and Königstiger (kingstiger) (the ö is not a vowel which is known to anglo, but the i in tiger is to be pronounced as ee in sheet or fleet).
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SerapisIV
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Feb 2001
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Originally posted by Ceci n'est pas Snapcase on 04-28-2001 01:05 PM
Tanks



This is an M2/M3 Bradley.

It's most likely a "Mech Infantry" unit, because most mech infantry (US) drive in either humvees or Bradleys.

The second one might be an old tank, if you remember the CGW screenshot, there was a bi-plane in the city-screen. Maybe this is the early tank and then your armored units upgrade to Panzers, then M1 Abrams units. Well its an idea.
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Youngsun
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Darwin,NT,Australia
Jan 2000
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Definitely M2 Bradley! first I suspected British Warrior but it isn't.

First I thought this as French Somua tank because of its small round turret but I changed my mind after I saw the wheels. It is M4 Sherman. This is so poorly drawn.

Looks like WWII era Anti-tank gun. could be British 6 pounder or German 35mm/pak.

Norman? see his nose covering helmet with round shiled and red long hair.

Double-convexed composite bow man. probably middle eastern origin.

Arquebusier see the arquebus rest.

His helmet looks like Babylonian.

A knight right see the emblem of the shield. A crusader would have a cross on the shield.


Don't you guys think the edges of the turret are too rounded?

look at this! how sharp edged it is!


and the panzer is PzIII not a PzIV if you count the number of wheels, you know.
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SerapisIV
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About the rounded edges on the Abrams, the Firaxis unit pics show the same roundedness. These are really just general pics for a computer game, not unit recognition for real militaries, so some artistic license is allowed with real world units
Youngsun
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Jan 2000
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I know what you mean but the tank is surely ugly.
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vgriph
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Norrköping, Sweden
Apr 2001
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I think it might be a non Roman legion. As the Roman legion is a specific unit there shall be something fore every civ that is close to it, but not as good as it.
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senowen
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Lexington, KY
May 2001
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Originally posted by vgriph on 05-18-2001 07:28 AM
I think it might be a non Roman legion. As the Roman legion is a specific unit there shall be something fore every civ that is close to it, but not as good as it.

To me this looks like a Germanic barbarian of some sort, as long as that is an animal skin around his head and shoulders. If it is armor, then that's an entirely different story.
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