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Joe Bourque
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I think the suspense of waiting for the new site now that we KNOW it's coming is actually worse then not hearing anything.

Not that I'm complaining mind you.

Joe

Roman
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Finally a website. When is it coming?
Empress
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Yes! YES! Yes!
mark13
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Last Updated February 10, 2000? What good is that? How are we meant to get excited when Firaxis give out data that is six months old?

Still, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adm.Naismith
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No, this is a misunderstand: actually you can see the old Civ3 FAQ, while Firaxis is announcing it will Very Soon be replaced by a proper dedicated site area.

I hope they will update info, too!

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UltraSonix
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OK, I've tried to hold this off, but it's been 2 weeks +4 hours since the original announcement, and nothing's happened. What's going on?

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Dienstag
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Maybe he meant "very soon" by Civ standards: 1 turn = 1 year

-Dienstag

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UltraSonix
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quote:

Maybe he meant "very soon" by Civ standards: 1 turn = 1 year

Damn it, you could be right!


quote:

"Must...stop...checking Civ 3 site...3 times a day. ARRGGHH!!"

Likewise - I think if we do it anymore often, we'll bring down their server...
Adm.Naismith
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"Real Soon Now" is probably a Firaxis internal joke on us...

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Fintilgin
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Well, when you're a game designer working on a project that takes multiple years then `Real Soon Now' IS several weeks or a month.

On the otherhand, when you're an overly eager fan then `Real Soon Now' is about fifteen minutes. TOPS.

My bet would be that we'll see something in early to mid-October. Now, um... if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go check the Firaxis web-page again...

Joe

Steve Clark
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The following what was posted at gamecenter.com and perhaps the source of the 2002 'rumour'.

quote:

What We Want to See: Civilization III
Hasbro Interactive announced Civilization III with great fanfare at last year's E3. Unfortunately, that was probably a bit premature. Civ
III is going to happen; however, it's a safe bet that the project won't see the light of day until 2002. One problem is that Firaxis is
committed to developing its dinosaur game for EA before it can fully concentrate on Civ III. The other, much larger issue is the mass
defection of talent--including Civilization II and Alpha Centauri designer Brian Reynolds--to Big Huge Games. The good news is that,
with Reynolds's departure, Sid Meier is actually going to design Civ III. The bad news: we're gonna be waiting a long, long time.
UltraSonix
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That quote IS the source of the 2002 rumour - I started it and linked to it from a few threads.

It's a little bit ironic how "A quick CivIII bit to put your minds at ease" and actually made us all more restless, eh?

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The Mad Viking
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You will notice that Firaxis said "we never said the release date would be in 2002" he didn't indicate whether it would be 2001 or 2003.

Of course, he didn't deny 2002 either.

UltraSonix
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Oh man, Viking! You had to bring that up!

*Ultra sighs and waits for the game patiently in the Apolyton Coffee Shop*

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Roman
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Three weeks after "real soon" they could at least tell us exactly when.
Alexander's Horse
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Hmmm, maybe the release of CTP2 will speed things up. If they keep delaying and CTP2 is any good at all, many civ 2 players will migrate across. I'm certainly going to buy CTP2 if the players' review are good.

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UltraSonix
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quote:

I'm certainly going to buy CTP2 if the players' review are good.

Same here - the only reason I didn't get CTP was that the mags in general thought it wasn't very good.

edit: maybe those bunch of people left Firaxis, all the web-designers left as well - just a thought.

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Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
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Mar 2000
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For those of you concerned about the site launch:

I'm sure you can all understand that there is a great deal of discussion and coordination that has to happen before we can open the site. There are a lot of people involved (including many folks from Hasbro) who are just making sure everything is copacetic before we go public with the site.

Please also keep in mind that as this will be a "preview site", we will be doing our best to address your questions and tell you what we can of the game, but it is not going to be the be-all, end-all of Civ sites by any means.

Just bear with us, the first step is always the hardest =)


As for this comment:

quote:

Originally posted by UltraSonix on 10-03-2000 01:43 AM
Same here - the only reason I didn't get CTP was that the mags in general thought it wasn't very good.

edit: maybe those bunch of people left Firaxis, all the web-designers left as well - just a thought.



I think I can safely debunk that rumor =)

That's the Civ III team, picture taken yesterday...
[This message has been edited by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS (edited October 03, 2000).]

The diplomat
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Now can we all stop bashing Firaxis!
They are going to give us a great game. It is hard but we need to be patient (especially me!) It would be nice if they could snap their fingers and out popped a game but it doesn't work that way. (I sometimes wonder if Sid ever wishes he could make a game just by snapping his fingers!) It takes time.

I am very happy with Dan's latest update. I am extremely excited about the preview site and for civ3.

now if I could just find something to do while waiting for civ3...

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Shadowstrike
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Well, I hope our suggestions helped out with the design step... Can't wait until Civ3....

So, can you tell us if it uses a unit workshop model?

UltraSonix
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I feel much better now!

(I got directly quoted by a Dan! *faints* )

By the way, you guys really know just when to give that bit of information to tease us, dont you?

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Adm.Naismith
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Dan Magaha, I'm not sure it's fair to take a photo adding also the boys who take to your team Pizza and Chinese food, too!

Great info hidden for every player: that photo is in fact the beta version of CIV III city view. Look at the buildings on the background and at the Citizen list with happy, content, unhappy people, and a bunch of specialist too, mostly entertainer!

Look at cloud details too: far more advanced that Black & white or Railroad tycoon 2 graphic engine someone mentioned some time ago.

(just kidding, just kidding )

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Father Beast
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quote:

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS on 10-03-2000 03:02 PM


Please also keep in mind that as this will be a "preview site", we will be doing our best to address your questions and tell you what we can of the game, but it is not going to be the be-all, end-all of Civ sites by any means.


Well, Of Course Not. the be-all, end-all of civ sites is:
APOLYTON! APOLYTON! APOLYTON!

Lonestar
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I'm pleased that Firaxis has people paying attention to the community.

Hopefully, Firaxis will go the "It'll take forever, but when it's done it'll kick ace!" Starcraft route.

mmmmm....starcraft.

I hope I haven't just commited heresy.

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Alexander's Horse
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You notice he said NOTHING about the release of the game? And its really hard to set up a web site? What utter cr#p. We've got 12 yr olds here who set up a web site a week. Want us to put you in touch with one of em?

As for the photo - look at those dorks. Standing there, sticking their beer guts out, playing pocket billiards and grinning moronically on their daggy pebble roof. Hardly inspires confidence. If I had asked my friggin wife to design this game BY HERSELF it would have been up by now

If they can't set up a web site without forming a friggin committee and taking it to the Hasbro board, what is the game going to be like? A camel is a horse designed by a committee!!

I am SO ANNOYED about this endless delay. Pull your fingers out!! GRRR!

*horse prays to game God that CTP2 is really good*


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UltraSonix
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quote:

Hopefully, Firaxis will go the "It'll take forever, but when it's done it'll kick ace!" Starcraft route.

mmmmm....starcraft.

I hope I haven't just commited heresy.

RTS-lover!!!!

And the site still hasn't been put up...

...

As usual AH has a good point, but finds the absolutely worst way to put it.

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Slax
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I agree with AH for the first time ever.

I think some of you guys would parade in the streets if someone at Firaxis picked their nose and posted a message about it.

Steve Clark
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quote:

great deal of discussion and coordination that has to happen before we can open the site

FIRAXIS: How's this...we'll put the Firaxis and Hasbro logos in the same frame with Firaxis on top.
HASBRO (one month later): No, the Hasbro logo has to be on top.
FIRAXIS (one month later): No, it's our site, Firaxis on top.
HASBRO (one month later): No, it's our money, Hasbro on top.
FIRAXIS (one month later): No, no, no. The Apolytoners worship us, our name is revered, the bandwagon is full and therefore, Firaxis must be at the forefront.
HASBRO: Fine, would you rather develop the next version of Parchesi instead?
FIRAXIS: Hasbro on top.

Roman
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I think you people are being a little too harsh on the Firaxis team. It is a completelly different matter designing a comercial site and a home website. Not graphically, of course, but contentwise. They must think about the marketing strategy i.e. what to reveale immediatelly and create a plan for updating the site... Frankly, I think they are probably doing their best.
On the other hand though, I would at least welcome knowing the date when the website will be posted, so that I can wait for it more patiently. Surely releasing that date can hurt nobody, it's not as if we got the game release date.
I think one thing delaying the site is that they want to answer most of our questions on it, but I think it would do for the time being if they just gave us any info, however vague about the game, just give us something.
Swissy
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Have some of you civ3'ers been contacting Hasbro and complaining about the unresponsiveness of FIRAXIS? This little publicity stunt, and that is all it is, looks like someone at Hasbro got a fire lit under him and decided to visit FIRAXIS to see what was going on(or not going on).
Dr Strangelove
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CTP II? Oh please!! I've never hated a game as much as I've hated the original CTP. Don't even consider wasting your money on CTP II.
I c e d a n
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I do agree with you Roman. He said it himself, it's a delicate thing to do. One word out in the site and you could spark something bad.

BTW, Sometimes (very recently) when I go to www.firaxis.com or /civ3/

It doesn't load. I hope they're updating it. If there are screenshots on it, I'm TOO afraid to look at it. I might ruin it all of myself. I'd really hate that.

Roman
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I have to dissapoint you, Icedan, the site loads normally for me and it is not updated.
I c e d a n
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notice I said 'sometimes'
Tiberius
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I've just checked the Firaxis site (again) and I found the following changes: NOTHING.

I don't think that is THAT hard to build up a site. I think it's something else: they still don't have what to put on the site! They don't have the previews

With such a delay with the site, what can we expect for the game? It seems like we have to wait a long, long time for Civ3.

red_jon
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OK!
Its now mid- October and nothing seems to have changed. Maybe next decade eh?
Shogun Gunner
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I will wait as long as I have to for Civ III.

Meanwhile, Civ II will do just fine.

How much buying power do Civ'ers represent? It's gotta represent a huge profit potential for Firaxis.

UltraSonix
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May 2000
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quote:

Its now mid- October and nothing seems to have changed. Maybe next decade eh?

Well, we know for a fact that it coming next millenium...

quote:

I will wait as long as I have to for Civ III.

Don't say that! That'll only encourage them!

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