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MarkG
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Greece
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it's Firaxis day today
http://apolyton.net/news/000323sid.shtml
http://apolyton.net/civ3
Imran Siddiqui
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Heaven, aka New Jersey
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WOOHOO!

quote:

You've already heard a few of the new ideas and innovations that are going into Civ III and there are many, many more to come! We're focusing heavily on the areas of trade and commerce and the role they played in mankind's development throughout history. We think it will be fun to be able to corner the market by specializing in the production of oil, or wheeling and dealing with other civilizations to achieve mutual economic benefits or to cut off resources to a powerful enemy.

You'll also see major new developments in our combat system. For the first time you'll be able to conduct sweeping military invasions using brand new units and military features, including leaders and armies. Another area of focus is diplomacy. We made great progress in the diplomacy system in Alpha Centauri and we plan to radically advance the diplomacy in Civ III by giving the player more power to construct deals to match any situation.

YES! YES! Corner the market in trade and deny products to enemies! WOW! and I like the armies idea! And Sid is leading development! YES! Such a happy day!

The diplomat
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Wow!! I'm speachless!!

Thanks so much Sid for the update!
I am so very excited about the features that civ3 will have!! Trade and commerce, combat with armies and leaders and a radically improved diplomacy, all sound absolutely fantastic. I am especially excited about the new radically improved diplomacy. It is my favorite part if the game.

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Narck
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Apr 99
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Awesome!

It's great to know that they actually used the LIST

Seeker
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At last! A great sign for future developments...
Thunderfall
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greaaaaaaaaaaaaat!

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Slingshot
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Jun 99
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Thank you Sid for the update.

And thanks for MarkG/DanQ for all the hard work - making this a site that the pros consider worth visiting

raingoon
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Aug 1999
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This is a great day for Markos and Dan, and I think everyone who loves the game, whether they've found their way to Apolyton yet or not.

It sounds like Sid is talking about something like an energy resource model with mention of resources and cornering the market, etc. Thanks to Sid for the good news. It all sounds just FAR too cool...
[This message has been edited by raingoon (edited March 24, 2000).]

Alexander's Horse
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Pay no attention, I'm really a nice guy
May 99
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I'm not convinced that Sid Meir actually exists.

The truth is out there.

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korn469
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Apr 99
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WOW! i'm looking forward to civ3! it sounds like it's going to be great! too bad it's going to take forever to get here...well at least Ion Storm (daikatana) isn't developing it

korn469

War4ever
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May 2000
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wow this puts my fears on hold.... sounds like alot of work has been done on this game already..... i like the direction they are taking as well...... Way to go Sid.... i hope civ 3 is as innovative as the origional
MidKnight Lament
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May 99
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Yeah, baby, yeah!!!

I think I'm going to print this out and stick it on my wall!

- MKL
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yin26
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Apr 99
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The List strikes again.
Derek
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Apr 99
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*sniff* *sniff*

Thanks Sid.

Theben
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It's good to know...
Youngsun
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FinnishGuy
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Jun 99
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OK, feeling better now.
Atahualpa
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Go Sid! Go!
Grier
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It would have been good if sid had left comments on some of the ideas so that we could improve some of the ideas more. But knowing that he has read them and is even going so far as to use some of them. I think all games companies should disband their R&D and just allow everyone at Apolyton to generate ideas for them!
Hugo Rune
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Hooray!
FinnishGuy
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Hugo, your thumb points the wrong way.
Thunderfall
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youngsun, do u really need 20 smilies?


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Youngsun
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No Thunderfall. I was really half surprised and half happy when I saw the message from Sid. Guess this forum will be vigourous as past days due to overwhelming stimulation.
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CyberShy
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Mar 99
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Great !

I'm really looking forward to the game !
Can I already pre-order it somewhere

CyberShy

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ghen: I still don't know your viewpoints though Quite a confusing individual..
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DanS: I have every intention of answering your questions when I have time to research and answer them fully.
For the record.....still waiting for his answers.
DanS after he read my signature: Cybershy: as things are going, you will have that signature for quite some time.

Stefu
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Schemperor
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Wow! Excellent! Improved trade and diplomacy, combat with armies and leaders...

But Sid still hasn't said if religion is in. Come one, I want to know if all my work has been naught

Adm.Naismith
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CyberShy, no need to pre-order. With a great P.R. move Firaxis will give to us at Apolyton five hundred copies of CIV III for free, to send as a gift to the Apolytoner that most contribute with their effort to the design of the game

Ok, it's only a dream, but if you think twice, that will be only around a 15 thousand dollars to give away for Firaxis, where it will end to be a really smart move IMO.

It will be very cost/effective also relating to common Advertising cost and an investment on enthusiastic users: how many of us will be harsh about some "first release" glitches and bugs if the game will be a thank gift from Firaxis?

Sid, are you still reading?

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korn469
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Apr 99
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maybe instead of 500 copies of the final game they should give Apolyton 500 copies of the beta test and actually listen to a few of our beta test suggestions...i'd be way more than happy with that

korn469

Zanzibar
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Dec 1999
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YES YES YES

Psst: Sid, when? I feel I can't wait any more. OK, if it takes time to make it good, then I'll wait . Just make it awesome.

CyberShy
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C'mon, we shouldn't be that selfish !

Understand it must be confusing for SID that he's working on a game, puts time and money in it, posts a message, and then the replies he receives are all like "I wanna have it for freeeeee"

That's not a fair thing !!

CyberShy

Ps. Mr. Meier, will I receive a free copy for saying this ?

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ghen: I still don't know your viewpoints though Quite a confusing individual..
CyberShy: Read Here

DanS: I have every intention of answering your questions when I have time to research and answer them fully.
For the record.....still waiting for his answers.
DanS after he read my signature: Cybershy: as things are going, you will have that signature for quite some time.

Bohlen
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Nov 1999
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I'm even more excited now. Thanks, Sid! The fact that you even consider our ideas is a great testament to your commitment to design a game that is in a league of its own. Listening to the customers on what can be better in Civ3 shows how modest you and your team are. There's always room for improvement, right?
korn469
King
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CyberShy

hey i didn't say i wanted the game for free, all i said is that i wanna help beta test it...and i hope that firaxis listens to its beta testers...i plan on buying civ3 once it comes out

korn469

Steve Clark
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Oct 1999
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It brought tears to my eyes. I kept looking for that dreaded word "real time". With him not mentioning it assumes that it won't be??
stratos
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Korn - you are absolutely right about the beta test!
And here some critical voices: Sid said nothing about the "deeper changes" in the games, just some improvements. What I want to know is if CIV III will be more realistic in the way it ends:

- will be there other possibilities to end the game instead of slaugthering al other civilizations or building a spaceship?
- what's about the concepts of world's peace, of culture, of religion and minorities?

I want more deeper information from Firaxis, not just a statement like "... and there will be many,many, many more other changes ..."

The diplomat
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Let's be patient! as the game moves forward, I am sure that Firaxis will tell us more about the game. I can't wait!

Stratos: since Sid mentionned cornering the market, I think there will probably be an economic victory. So, I think they will improve the ways of winning the game. I think that Firaxis will have "deeper changes". They just have not told us everything yet! Let's be patient. I can't wait for screenshots myself. I am curious about, as Sid put it, the "brand new graphics engine that will bring the Civ world alive like never before".

Civ3 will take CTP2 down for the count!!

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Thunderfall
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quote:


Ps. Mr. Meier, will I receive a free copy for saying this ?

cybershy, you used the wrong word... You should use Dr. Meier or something like that. One of my professors explicitly stated in the beginning of the semester that all students MUST call him Prof. 'something' or Doctor 'something'. The reason: because he spent 10 years just to get that title!

I hope Sid is not angry at you.

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ajbera
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Apr 99
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My thanks to Sid, not only for letting us know he's read and valued our input enough to actually consider and incorporate our ideas into Civ 3, but also for giving us an (admittedly vague) update regarding the status of the game. We know it's gonna be a while, but a positive message from on high is always welcome.

I'd like to add that I can only hope this becomes a future trend, where game developers listen closely to what the fans are asking for and actually try to adapt their concepts into upcoming games. Perhaps we can avoid having a market full of crap in this way.

Thanks for making us happy (again) Sid! The grass is greener, the sun is brighter...even my dog doesn't smell quite as stinky today.

God bless us, everyone!!

Gearyman
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Pensacola, FL
Feb 2000
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Hmmmmmm.....

What else can I say that everyone else hasn't already? We're happy, excited, thrilled, and impatient at the same time!!!

(BTW Thunderfall, I like Dr. Meier.)

As for the beta test list, sign me up too!

Finally, I agree with Slingshot in saying 'thank you' to MarkG & DanQ for their work on the site.

Party on & long live Civ!!!

Slingshot
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Jun 99
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Regarding:
quote:


We think it will be fun to be able to corner the market by specializing in the production of oil, or wheeling and dealing with other civilizations to achieve mutual economic benefits or to cut off resources to a powerful enemy.

And Re:

quote:


For the first time you'll be able to conduct sweepingmilitary invasions using brand new units and military features, including leaders and armies.

My memory is not so good. Is any of this in the 500-page suggestion list?

DirkZelwis
Settler
Berlin, Germany, Europa
Feb 2000
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Hello!
That's good news from "Dr. Meier", though surely vague. Especially as Civ2 was the ONLY reason for me to change from Commodore Amiga to MS-DOS/Windows.
Bye, Dirk
"Dirks and Daggers"
Thunderfall
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haha... finally we are all calling Sid "Dr.Meier"

I hope they release civ3 next year... there is no need to rush.

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Ubergeek
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Feb 2000
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