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Topic: Civ3: "Civer Edition"--How much would YOU pay? |  |
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yin26
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Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted March 09, 2000 03:29
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When Ultima9 came out, I jumped at the chance to buy the Dragon Edition. It included a cool (old-school) cloth map, game music on a separate audio CD, "simulated leather" spellbook and manual, 8 tarrot cards, an ankh, Ultimas 1-8 on a separate disk, a letter of thanks from RG, and a HUGE box! I gladly paid $70+ for it.[Note: The game itself was buggy, the box so damn big that stuff rolled around inside and got messy and bent, the ankh was REALLY cheap, the tarrot cards cartoony, the best of previous Ultimas unplayable under Windows, and they released an "enhanced making of U9 cd" a few weeks later instead of in the box--which pretty much ruined the experience.] BUT... I think a "Civer Edition" Civ3 would simply be awesome. How much would I pay?: approximately $70-80 What would I want to see inside it?:
- A game CD with a cool map of the world on it.
- Civ1 and 2 on a special "Civ Collector's" CD, with the original manuals in .pdf format (only if some deal could be struck with Microprose, of course).
- A cloth map of the world (or a great fold-out with cool historical facts and a timeline on the back).
- A "Making of Civ3" CD which includes the music tracks and sound effects.
- A paperback History of the World by some well-known historian.
- I wonder how much it would cost to put in a Britannica "History of the World" or "History of War" CD in the box?
- A pewter figurine (each box is different!). You would get one of the follwing: A globe; a phalanx; a bomber; a nuclear missile; or a settler. 1000 lucky fans would get ALL of them! Of course, each one would have "CivIII" stamped on it somewhere.
- A letter from Sid, Jeff and Firaxis. You know, one of those simulated signature ones telling us how cool it's been working on the game and how great the Civ fans are. =)
How about you? What would you pay? What would you want in that box?
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pauli
Chieftain
herndon, va, usa
Jan 2000
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posted March 09, 2000 12:17
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i'll pay $35, and get the game cd, manual, and tech tree poster, inside a normal sized box.however, a good figurine might get me to pay $50. i think i would prefer a settler or engineer... although an old school civ1 militia type would be fun . |
Atahualpa
King
of my castle (somewhere in at)
Mar 99
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posted March 09, 2000 13:49
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They should include a plastic unit! And yes I think $50 is enough!Ata |
LordGrey
Chieftain
Northeast USA
b.02-15-99
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posted March 09, 2000 17:58
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I would definitely pay $50-70 for a CD including the music (how about one with all of the Civilization music from 2 and 3?), and some nifty extra maps and literature. A random pewter figurine based on classic units would be pretty cool, too. I would want the stuff to look like they put some effort into it, though, unlike Yin26's description of parts of the Ultima special edition. |
yin26
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Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted March 09, 2000 18:07
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Yes, I forgot that U9 also included the previous Ultimas 1-8! (But in true form, the best of them wouldn't work under Windows and they made no effort to convert them!) But Civ1 and Civ2 on the disk would be a MUST! =)
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Gord McLeod
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Georgetown, Ontario, Canada
Mar 2000
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posted March 09, 2000 21:05
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I wouldn't hold your breath there - remember that Microprose owns Civilization and Civilization II. There's probably not much chance they'd allow Firaxis to distribute those two games along with Civilization III. |
yin26
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted March 09, 2000 22:43
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Good point. No big deal, actually. |
MarkG
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Macedonia, Greece
b.02-15-99
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posted March 10, 2000 11:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Gord McLeod on 03-09-2000 09:05 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath there - remember that Microprose owns Civilization and Civilization II. There's probably not much chance they'd allow Firaxis to distribute those two games along with Civilization III.
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actually... Microrprose is owned by Hasbro. Hasbro will publish civ3. see where I'm going??
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pauli
Chieftain
herndon, va, usa
Jan 2000
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posted March 10, 2000 12:36
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as a special edition, i can see them releasing all the games together... the question is, which versions? dos civ, win civ, civnet... civ2, civ2 gold, civ2:tot... see the problem? if they reduced all the music to mp3, then all of those might fit on one extra cd, but otherwise, it would result in a set of four. either way, i think they should stick civ1 on the civ3 cd, just as a nice gift. duke3d shipped with the full versions of duke 1 and 2. you know, if they were to actually go to the trouble of making good figurines, they should sell them individually too. do you think they would sell the civ1 spaceship as one model, or a ton of separate pieces?  |
Gord McLeod
Chieftain
Georgetown, Ontario, Canada
Mar 2000
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posted March 10, 2000 14:57
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkG on 03-10-2000 11:58 AM
actually... Microrprose is owned by Hasbro. Hasbro will publish civ3. see where I'm going??
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It's not always that simple... but it does raise the possibility. It could happen, though I personally won't be holding my breath... |
yin26
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted March 10, 2000 18:23
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Markos,I think it's entirely possible to work something out. I know Sid's history with Microprose has a few rough spots in it, but still... |
yin26
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted March 10, 2000 19:07
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quote:
Originally posted by pauli on 03-10-2000 12:36 PM
...which versions?...do you think they would sell the civ1 spaceship as one model, or a ton of separate pieces?
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The latest version running under Windows sounds good. As for the spaceship: LOL!
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MarkG
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Macedonia, Greece
b.02-15-99
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posted April 21, 2000 19:31
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Another thread that became a poll...POLL CLOSED, RESULTS BELOW
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sammyboy7
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Macedonia, Greece
b.02-15-99
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posted April 21, 2000 19:48
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i voted without looking at the thread ( :0 ) to see if the actual game is good, and i stick with it... if the game sucks, then why should i pay an extra $20-30 bucks for it (what i would be willing to pay if it were good)
btw, the civ1 idea is good - i think the majority of civ3 buyers probably have some version of civ2, but not necessarily civ1 (at least i do  )ps. i know i'm foolish, but what does btw actually stand for? i've seen it used a lot, so i know how to use it, but i don't know what it really means... ------------------
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Bill3000
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Jul 1999
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posted April 21, 2000 19:59
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyboy7 on 04-21-2000 07:48 PM
ps. i know i'm foolish, but what does btw actually stand for? i've seen it used a lot, so i know how to use it, but i don't know what it really means...
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btw= By the way
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Gearyman
Settler
Pensacola, FL
Feb 2000
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posted April 22, 2000 10:48
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If I see a demo or the actual game and can tell that the game meets the Civ III expectations, then I would probably be willing to pay close to $70 for it plus the 'extras'.Maybe we could see a separate forum on what items people would like to see in these 'extras', and then vote on them, similar to the new ideas and fixes for Civ III a few months back. WWAAZZAAAAAAAAAAPP!!!! (back at ya sammyboy7) |
Kumiorava
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of the Elastic Mammals, retired
b.02-15-99
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posted April 22, 2000 12:34
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How about this:Thay could put all the games, the music, and what ever extras they could come up with on a single DVD disk, and then put a real tacky interface on it to start up your favorite version of the game, view the editors notes, watch the How-They-Did-It movie or what ever... |
M@ni@c
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Jul 1999
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posted April 22, 2000 13:35
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I would expect a map of the world to be in the normal Civ3 packet. About the historic proposals, buy yourself a good history book/atlas and you've got something much better. About that Sid/Jeff letter: they're just humans, you know, not gods. Not worth the money. |
Derek
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of Persia 3D
Jul 1999
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posted April 22, 2000 16:18
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I want to see it include a bad ass *POSTER*! Did anyone here ever buy Romance of the 3 Kingdoms 3? Inside was a big fold out poster that was the best game art EVER.I mean it just ruled this poster was that good. I haven't played the game in 7 years, but still have the poster on my wall. One one side is a map of China, and on the other is a kind of "box art" montage of some of the more memorable characters, in striking poses, in the game. How about it Firaxis? I can't imagine a "gamers pack" without a collectible poster!?!? |
yin26
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Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted April 24, 2000 04:59
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The point of a thank-you letter isn't that they are Gods but that it 1) Gives them a chance to thank fans and 2) Becomes part of a collectible package. However, if all these things are donely cheaply (as with UIX), then it backfires. |
sammyboy7
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted April 24, 2000 14:09
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thanx, bill3000
btw ( ) *picks up phone* havin a bud, watchin the game. wait... wat game are you watchin, gearyman? |
general_charles
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Brussels Belgium
Apr 2000
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posted April 24, 2000 14:25
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I think a map of the world would be definitely necessary in the originial package, but this kind of expansion should include maybe a map of all five continents, a few scenarios for all of them and why not some mod packs (BTW, I think civ3 should allow more easy use of MOD packs). I think for an expansion, I'll probably won't go over 35-40$.
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Thunderfall
Chieftain
CivFanatics.com
b.02-15-99
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posted April 25, 2000 04:04
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quote:
What would I want to see inside it?:
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A game CD with a cool map of the world on it.
Civ1 and 2 on a special "Civ Collector's" CD, with the original manuals in .pdf format (only if some deal could be struck with Microprose, of course).
A cloth map of the world (or a great fold-out with cool historical facts and a timeline on the back).
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Instead of a cloth world map, I think a cloth Tech tree and units roster is better (and more useful). I always play on random maps anyway. :-)
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Roze
Settler
Port Douglas, Queensland, Qustralia
Apr 2000
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posted April 25, 2000 10:47
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Yeah, love the idea and I would pay $70 for it. Specially like the idea of the pewter figures. I would also like more info, in the form of a booklet, on the Wonders. Ok, some are well known, but the war academy was new to me.
Also a decent theme pack that actually worked and didn't crash the computer would be a pleasant bonus... |
DirkZelwis
Settler
Berlin, Germany, Europa
Feb 2000
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posted April 25, 2000 11:12
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Hello!
I want to buy things that are useful to me. I can't think of any good use for a pewter figurine for a computer game. I won't give a dime, on the contrary, I'd be annoyed about the stupidity.
Bye, Dirk
"Dirks and Daggers."
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don Don
Settler
Berlin, Germany, Europa
Feb 2000
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posted April 25, 2000 18:24
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Just the thing I need... how nice. |
MidKnight Lament
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Melbourne, Australia
May 99
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posted April 26, 2000 02:26
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The number one consideration is that it would have to be available at the same time the standard version is released. It ****s me up the wall when companies do stuff like this 6 months later, after all the die-hard fans have bought it in the first few weeks. This happens all the time with CDs as a marketing ploy, rather than giving extras to the real fans.I'd be willing to pay extra for some goodies, but I want to be able to do it when I originally buy Civ3. Otherwise frustration is bound to insue! - MKL |
vlad
King
Of the uninterrupted power supply kingdom
Dec 1999
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posted April 26, 2000 03:21
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If they were smart they would issue a deluxe version 1 week before the standard one,get the retailers some cash and get the hardcore people the best product.Since Hasbro is the parent company it would more likely include a rare collectible card,like their Pokemon product. I would certainly pay high dollar for a kewl version of the game, up to $100 |
M@ni@c
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of Persia 3D
Jul 1999
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posted April 26, 2000 15:43
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Thank the fans they can (have to) also do in the Credits. |
Eagle Scream
Settler
Feb 2000
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posted April 26, 2000 18:20
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A note to Civ 3 game makers,Make a great game but don't charge too much for it. I am not a thief but I know many who are. If you charge to much for it people will just burn it. If you charge a reasonable price then people will pay for it. Possibly have a CD key to play online (such as half life does for counterstrike-Sierra game). I have my university marketing degree so if you are looking to hire marketers for this game (or any others) feel free to email me at eaglewashere@hotmail.com. Looking forward to the game, Eagle Scream. PS: In my humble opinion I suggest having the combat options as you have in Master of Orion 2 in the game please. |
dStryker
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Saginaw, Michigan
Nov 1999
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posted April 28, 2000 04:30
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Since a new game here is usually about $50, at most I'd pay up to $70. Even then I'll be more likely to just buy the "standard" one with no extra stuff. (Game, (paper) poster, manual, registration card ) |
Pin
Warlord
Norway
Mar 2000
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posted April 29, 2000 13:50
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I would love to buy what you described in the heading...(preferably on a dvd)Ï would be willing to give what it cost, but a roof betweem 100$ and 150$ |
Joseph
Chieftain
Napa, Ca. USA
Feb 2000
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posted May 02, 2000 17:50
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I really like Yin26 idea. C&C Tib. Sun made a figure for the game, and it was quite nice.
The deluxes and a standard verison would be the way to go, then both sides would be happy. I would buy the deluxe game.------------------
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Earthling7
Warlord
Square 74, 127
Jul 1999
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posted May 03, 2000 04:42
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Oh, wouldn't it be lovely? Civilization all over again, under Windows this time...Most important though is that Civ3 is a knocker! Maybe a figurine from each game? ------------------
Greetings,
Earthling7
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MarkG
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Macedonia, Greece
b.02-15-99
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posted June 27, 2000 18:54
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RESULTS!!
Interested in a "Civer's Edition" with lots of goodies?
| Yes! No matter the price! |  292 / 22% | | I would go up to $60-70 | 180 / 13% | | Around $50 is the reasonable price | 260 / 20% | | I can barely afford the price for a normal edition | 120 / 9% | | Nah, it wont be worth the extra money | 74 / 5% | | Let's see first if the actual game is good... | 320 / 24% | | Don't care | 40 / 3% |
1286 total votes
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Par4
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I will strike down upon thee with great venegence
May 2000
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posted June 27, 2000 21:09
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I don't remember which one I voted for  ------------------
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yin26
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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posted June 28, 2000 00:56
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Wow. 35% of those who voted are willing to pay at least $60-70 for a Civer Edition! I just wonder if that's enough for Firaxis to consider the idea? Anybody from Firaxis dare to cause all kinds of mayhem and post an answer? (Anyway, it's a cool idea that, done well, could make you guys some extra bank and make some fans very happy along the way).BTW, Markos, nice work on the voting... |
Urban Ranger
Emperor
The City State of Noosphere
May 99
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posted June 28, 2000 01:55
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Yin,You are looking at hardcore civers here. It is not a reliable sample |
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