Thanks
Omni

Not sure exactly what you're asking.. it's contained in a zip file that needs to be extracted to your CTP directory...

quote: Originally posted by MrFun on 11-29-2000 08:48 PM I know that I would have to unzip it to that directory but when I initiate this, I am asked what program I would like to use to open this file. I think I need to download a version of AdobeAcrobat Reader. ??

Extract the file on your map directory of CTP2
Open CTPII-editor, clik on load-map button...

Great map OmniGod ! Thx a lot !

Are you using PKzip or Winzip? Pkzip is a DOS base zip file and Winzip is a windows base file. I was using Pk on Wesw Med mods and it would not work. Then a person (I think his name is Roberts) put out a mod for Civ 2 and had Winzip with it. I used it on Wes mod and it then worked. I think you can get a trial verson on the Internet. Just type Winzip.com. And btw after using Winzip for a while I went ahead and paided my 20.00 to them. It is very easy to used. It will ask you what file you want unzip to and you tell it CTP 2 maps file and that is were it will go.
You can also get a older verision of Adobe for free on the Internet. Just type Adobe Reader.com

For us Brits, Aussies and continentals who don't get the game until next week, could anyone tell us how this map is better than the one supplied by Activision? (bearing in mind we haven't really seen that map either?) Is the one supplied by Activision a bit poor compared with Omni's?

Is Britain bigger on Omni's new map? On the original map it looked from screenshots as if it was only a few tiles big, a bit like it was on the original Civilisation.

Is Britain bigger on Omni's new map? On the original map it looked from screenshots as if it was only a few tiles big, a bit like it was on the original Civilisation.

I reply:
No, the world is in proportions... the UK is a total of I believe is 29 tiles (that includes Ireland and England). Other major differences include size (210x150), more details, and just overally better (I'm biased of course )

But anyways...
Okay updated map - version 1.1 beta

What's new
- River and Ocean tiles are completed
- Continental shelf is much more realistic
- Adjusted some land tiles to match vegetation

What's pending
- Conversion of Nordicus' Trade Goods
- Extensive Nations List
- Scenario startability

Omni

It's just not possible for anyone to make a large enough Earth map so that you can have more than one city in Great Britain. Not to mention the fact that after full maturation, London would have half of northern Europe within its city radius!

quote: Originally posted by MrFun on 11-30-2000 08:09 PM Not to mention the fact that after full maturation, London would have half of northern Europe within its city radius!(

Sorry to hear it's not what you wanted... but as a matter of fact, last year I began on a 500x1000 map where England was 125 squares... but dam it takes much to long... I finished the Americas and started on Europe... but I was just tired of building it... and not to mention, it was sloooooooooowwwww...

As to the part about London encompassing Europe, that's exactly what I wanted, since I don't think that the cities are really cities but states and this creates the tension between the French and English since they are fighting to be first to grow into there respective areas... if they grow near equally they encompass half the Channel and all the land on their respective sides... but anyways.

Thanks for the feedback... good or bad

Is it possible to import your partial map to CTP2? I think that it would make a great scenario for the European expansion into the Americas. Kinda like Sid's Colinization but with the CTP format.

Set up established cities in England, France, Spain, Netherlands, etc and set their tech to be fairly advanced, also set up a few nations like Mayan, Inca, and Native American with techs appropriate to their level.

Find some way to forbid (or make really stupid) the idea of attacking another home nation, possibly founding the European cities on 1-tile islands and giving them walls.

Basically, the goal would be for the advanced European nations to colonize the "New world" and the less advanced nations of America to try and fend them off.

Could lead to some interesting alliances. Might have to work on the personalities with regrards to expansionistic ideas and attitude towards being on the same continent.

quote: Originally posted by Dogbreath on 12-01-2000 08:45 AM Is it possible to import your partial map to CTP2? I think that it would make a great scenario for the European expansion into the Americas. Kinda like Sid's Colinization but with the CTP format.

It is a good idea... but when I tried to import it into CTP2 with no goods, no civs my computer just crashed... not sure if the map is just too big, or if there is something else that I am missing... I'll sort through my files to find the last update I did to it and post it on my games page hopefully by tomorrow, and you can try it out if you want, but don't yell at me if you crash

Omni

And I hate idle hands.... anyone wanting a map for a potential scenario or just for a map... I'm open... and just remember that this map end up taking 20 hours of work over a week and a bit so no going hog crazy saying something like "a 500x1000 map by tomorrow of Madagascar"... not that anyone wants a map of Madagascar

Omni

quote: Originally posted by LandBuilder on 12-02-2000 05:48 AM Maybe it's just me- but my computer uses ZipZilla to unzip and I cannot get it to work. It is there in my WorldMap file under scenarios- but the editor will not recognize it nor will the scenario program.

Okay my .txt file may not be the clearest, for this map to work as of today you have to take the actual map and place it into your ...\ctp2_program\ctp\save\maps and from there you load up the editor and choose to load map and one of the options should be World Map 14civ. Right now I'm having trouble with the scenario startup since it's hanging, and I don't have a clue yet as to how to correct that and another thing that needs to be investigated is when and if you save then load your game it doesn't work properly and automatically assumes you are the first player(England)... and again I don't know how to fix that yet, but I gather that one should correct the other... only time will tell

Thanks though... any more thoughts

Landbuilder... I get the screams too but there is no problem with loading, I would suggest changing your userprofile.txt to include 14 players and try it again... other than that I'm not sure... I'll look at it later, but I think you might be the only one... sorry

To become the Americans you should go into the editor and on the empire tab select player1 on the far right column and change that to America, delete the settler in the UK and place on in America... near Washington is a good place. Then choose player13 and change that to English, and delete the player13 settler from the USA and place one in the UK...

You can do this for any of the players if you don't like the ones that are defaulted for the map... save the map and play on...

I thought about a release with a map for each civ.. then I thought... you guys can do the minor changes if you really don't want to be the english

Anyone up to making a mediterranean map that spans from Baghdad to London and Morocco to Moscow? It would include the entire Med basin and run East-West from Portugal to Azov. North-South limits would be approx Oslo and Gulf of Sidra.

I think that a map with those parameters would be ideal for ancient, middle age, rennaissance and even 19th century scenarios.

quote: Originally posted by LandBuilder on 12-05-2000 03:24 PM any suggestions on how to use your great map, but lessen the number of civ's?

Landbuilder...

It's easy to remove some civs, just go into the editor and remove some of the settlers, if you left my default as was, if not then you probably set up nations and you'd have to save the map only and reopen the editor and place nations for say 8 civs... or however many you want...

Sorry that it slowed down, I never got to the 1800's so I didn't test for that range and the shear number of units the computer would have created. With my new map a bit larger, I may set the number of civs down to 8 to 10... but maybe the best answer is ATTACK more and kill the computer off quicker

quote: Originally posted by LandBuilder on 12-06-2000 06:56 PM 30 civ's I think will be way too big for most computers to handle

Well I was doing some testing between working on the map and university... I'm only running a PII 333 with 256ram and well after turning off all the extras at 1200AD there was no real slowdown, maybe only an extra 2-5 seconds.... which might lead to a 60sec delay in the 19th century and maybe a 1.5 minute in the mid 2000's... it's just turning off the extras... it makes most things okay to run... now the new map... I probably won't try to run it with 30.. 210x300 is much much larger...