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DarthVeda
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I DEMAND AN ISOMETRIC FREECIV!
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I am impressed by the unresponsiveness of the apolyton freeciv section; the MAC and native windows clients have gone unreported. The new graphical server interface has not been mentioned. And none of the new features have been reported.

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WOWIEE!!!!!! I'm gonna have to look at this now, Thue

Btw, what is this being programmed in?

Thue
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No, it is not complete yet, and not in CVS. (and neither is the windows ro mac clients)
Thue
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oh, and we also got mentioned on www.cnn.com
MarkG
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Originally posted by Thue on 01-10-2001 02:25 PM
I am impressed by the unresponsiveness of the apolyton freeciv section; the MAC and native windows clients have gone unreported. The new graphical server interface has not been mentioned. And none of the new features have been reported.
if you informed us of these things it would be nice. with all the rush with ctp2 we cant check everything...

btw, i dont see a new item on the mac client on the freeciv site...

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Hey....that looks pretty cool. When is the projected release date?

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Originally posted by MarkG on 01-11-2001 05:41 AM
if you informed us of these things it would be nice. with all the rush with ctp2 we cant check everything...

btw, i dont see a new item on the mac client on the freeciv site...



Ok, sorry, for some reason I was feeling grumpy .

But may I suggest:
1) You cut down on the freeciv page; many of the items can be done by simply linking to the relevant www.freeciv.org page. Then you will have the most up to date content. All relevant downloads will be there anyway.
2) Get someone who is actually interested in freeciv, and who follow the mailing lists, to administer the apolyton freeciv homepage. All the important things take place on those lists. Maybe you could send a mail to freeciv@freeciv.org asking of someone want the job; or alternatively just ask in this thread.

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Originally posted by CornMaster on 01-11-2001 10:23 AM
Hey....that looks pretty cool. When is the projected release date?

When it is done . Depends on how much time I have. What remains is:


  • mess with flags, unit activities, city sizes etc.
  • scrollbar bug. (easy)
  • restore old view mode (relatively easy)
  • goto line functionality.
  • make it not be dog slow.
  • graphics related to city combat. (easy)
  • cleanup code
  • modify freeciv to be able to use the new city styles.(easy add-on)



[This message has been edited by Thue (edited January 11, 2001).]

Thue
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Originally posted by DarthVeda on 01-10-2001 05:58 PM
Btw, what is this being programmed in?

In C, using Gimp Drawing Kit. There didn't go much though into the choise of gdk, it was just what the old view used, and it seemed to do what I needed. (But I will prbably have to go rewrite most of it at a level below gdk to get it faster. And FoW doesn't work quite right using only stock function...)

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Originally posted by Thue on 01-11-2001 04:10 PM
But may I suggest:
1) You cut down on the freeciv page; many of the items can be done by simply linking to the relevant www.freeciv.org page. Then you will have the most up to date content. All relevant downloads will be there anyway.
2) Get someone who is actually interested in freeciv, and who follow the mailing lists, to administer the apolyton freeciv homepage. All the important things take place on those lists. Maybe you could send a mail to freeciv@freeciv.org asking of someone want the job; or alternatively just ask in this thread.

ok, in the meantime, can you please tell me what is new since the release of v1.11.4??

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Changes include:

  • Client goto line like in ctp and SMAC. (I really like this one )
  • Patrol command.
  • Experimental support for multiple connections controling/observing a single civ.
  • Some people had trouble with lag; the network code rewrite hopefully fixes this.
  • readline completion in the server (I can see the puzzled look on the windows users faces)
  • Shared vision. This is not just map exchange once in a while, the maps are kept completely up to date between players with shared vision.
  • We now have 64 nations.
  • Lots of bugfixes

look at the freeciv-cvs mailing list at http://arch.freeciv.org

In the works:

  • Native MAC client
  • Completely native windows client (no gtk or X)
  • Isometric view (did you notice )
  • I made a quick hack of a map editor. Well - you can make maps with it at least

[This message has been edited by Thue (edited January 12, 2001).]
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hmmm, eeer, ok....
but the last version according to the freeciv homepage is still 1.11.4

what am i missing?

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What I am talking about is the CVS version, that will become the next version. Since freeciv is an open-source type project everybody can download this, like everybody who wants to can participate in the actual development or just track the discussion on the mailing lists.

It seems to me that it is apolyton newsworthy when a feature becomes implemented in CVS; at least you jump at every small half-baked peice of developments news from any of the other projects .
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Originally posted by Thue on 01-12-2001 07:18 PM
What I am talking about is the CVS version, that will become the next version.
ah ok
check the news

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It seems to me that it is apolyton newsworthy when a feature becomes implemented in CVS; at least you jump at every small half-baked peice of developments news from any of the other projects .

we cant follow closely all the alt.civs games, so it would help if the developers came closer to us


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And we didn't decide what to call the next version... As the protocol is still compatable with 1.11.4 and 1.11.0 we might call it 1.11.6...

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we cant follow closely all the alt.civs games, so it would help if the developers came closer to us

As I said, find an apolyton webmaster that follow the mailing lists..
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Originally posted by Thue on 01-12-2001 09:39 PM
And we didn't decide what to call the next version... As the protocol is still compatable with 1.11.4 and 1.11.0 we might call it 1.11.6...
dont worry, if that happens, we can make a news item: "sudden change!
the freeciv team surprised everyone today, not naming the new version 1.12 but rather 1.11.6"

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As I said, find an apolyton webmaster that follow the mailing lists..
it's generally hard to find people these days...

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it's generally hard to find people these days...

As opposed to what days?

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MarkG: Just a few small corrections to that news item:
  • I think it is "controlling" with 2 l's
  • There should be an "'" after "windows users"
  • The number 64 is the number of nations that has a ruleset with cities and leaders. You can "only" play with 32 of them at one time.

(Yes, I know the 2 first were my spelling errors.)

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