the WW2 Scenario for CTP2, made by the Call to Power 2 Team
http://apolyton.net/ctp2/downloads/scenarios/ctp2ww2.exe

What really gets me is why they can get away with doing things we can't. It seems like they should give us the same tools or be forced to play by our rules.

Putting out scenarios with functionality that nobody else can reproduce seems an awful lot like cheating or mis-representation of the facts.

i downloaded it myself from apolyton last night and was going at 3.3(the max for my 33.6k modem)...

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"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills, we shall never surrender!" -Winston Churchill

Now lets please turn this thread back over to the WW2 scenario. I am interested in hearing what everyone has to say about it.

PS. Can anyone help me with my CPt problem?Its in the CPT forums-help/general/?

Also I am disappointed that the scenario is more or less restricted to the Battle of France. IMO it's a lot more interesting if you have the whole European theatre like the Civ2 scenario so you at least have some diplomatic possibilities.

Btw, I had a couple of crashes when I tried to pillage a fort and an airfield.

I like the pillbox TI. I look forward to someone isolating the code for it so that we can put it into our mods. The barbed wire could be useful as well.

i played for while with the germans and resistance was wasn't big. the neglish did free a belgian city back, but i re-took it shortly

When you play the Germans watch out for those pillboxes. They're murder. I went to bomb one of them with units from Saarbrucken. I started with 5 stukas and 2 109s. The French shot 2 down before I got there, I bombed and killed one infantry, I couldn't move any further after bombing so the French shot down 2 more on their turn, I bombed with my 2 remaining stukas and just injured somebody, I lost another plane when I moved away. So I started with 7, left with 2.

After that fiasco, the French moved in and took Saarbrucken. Kind of embarrassing, but it happened. I had Paris by then so I wasn't too worried. Something weird happened on June 28th. All the French troops on the Maginot line just died and I guess the same happened in the 3 or 4 French cities I hadn't conquered yet because when I took them a few turns later, there were no defenders.

Even more strange was when I had a stack of 11 units (tanks, infantry, 1 anti-air) and moved General Kleist onto the same tile. It loaded him on a tank so I unloaded him onto that same tile with the 11 units. I got a message that General Kleist has been captured by the Kleist. Yes, I typed that correctly, captured by the Kleist. Shoulda been a feat of wonder! You've captured yourself, your choices are firing squad, ransom yourself and stash the gold or +5 happiness for 20 turns! Anyway, Kleist decided to ransom Kleist back to me for 10,000 gold. I stupidly paid it, man it hurt too, and I never did see Kleist again.

I thought the map, new TIs and units were great. I would have liked to have seen the entire war period represented though. I can live without the US being in the game, the map is too detailed and it would have to be bigger than my PC can handle to have them included. More of Germany/some of Eastern Europe and more than one English city and a longer time period would have made it much better. Maybe have US units only appear in England at certain times. Haven't thought a whole lot about it yet, guess I'm just rambling now.

BTW welcome to Miranda, I hope you post some more, your posts are absolutely hilarious.

And you guys have wrecked my day. I was SO looking forward to this, (I too loved Sid & Co's WWII) and now you all tell me it's crap... lol

Oh well, what can we expect? They weren't getting any cash outta the deal, why take pride in the effort, right guys?

I'm sure it won't be too long before one of us grognard types makes a GOOD WWII scenario. He((, I might even get around to it myself...

Actually, I'll make a deal with someone:

I'm a game designer, reviewer (gamer.com), and diehard grognard. But I HATE drawing up the maps. If someone here will make me a very large, GOOD map of the world, (must be original) I'll complete the scenario from there. In a game design (hoping to release in a year or so, board format) we've started the war from where it SHOULD start (not the American-ized '41 start we are all so familiar with), in Sept. '39. If any of you have ever had a go at trying to design a scenario or some such thing from there, you'll understand the problems of balance, etc. It's difficult to have such a tiny Germany blossom within the rules framework.

So I can't promise a '39 start, but I'll try. I've got all the relevent data to include the entire world (we have alot of action in S. America and the India/Asia theatres in our game) so there'll be no problem there.

If anyone can deliver on the map, or if anyone would like to offer assistance; if anyone has historical numbers ready to access, or wishes to offer suggestions or playtesting, please contact me at mantis29a@home.com and we'll take it from there!

**Warning!** For potential playtesters - this will be a long and repetitive process, so if patience isn't one of your virtues, please don't apply!