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Mongo76
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Feb 2000
posted September 12, 2000 20:42   Click Here to See the Profile for Mongo76   send a private message to Mongo76
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As I am sitting here taping my multi-piece, and throughly man-handled, wall chart from CTP1, I would like to take this opportunity to ask Activision to PLEASE(!!!) give us ONE-SIDED wall charts for CTP2 that we can hang on the wall and not have to spend our game playng time with one hand on the mouse and the other flip-flopping a giant piece of paper over and over!!!
MidKnight Lament
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Melbourne, Australia
May 99
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Hear, hear!

Listen to this person! I'd have them permanently stuck on my wall if it wasn't double-sided.

- MKL

hexagonian
Prince
hither and yon
Jun 99
posted September 13, 2000 08:48   Click Here to See the Profile for hexagonian   send a private message to hexagonian
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It would be nice to have two posters, with all of info that was included on the CTP1 chart. But my wall is currently filled up with game posters now.

And that would cut into the profit margins...unless the price of the game was raised.

I hope Activision can get all the info on one side, but then you would hear griping that the type is too small.

No-one is ever happy!

Atahualpa
King
of my castle (somewhere in at)
Mar 99
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I hope they plan to include a chart. I found it very very useful!

Ata

WesW
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Huntsville, Al., USA
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posted September 13, 2000 22:53   Click Here to See the Profile for WesWClick Here to Email WesW  send a private message to WesWSend a Message to UIN: 84799350 Visit WesW's Homepage!
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Or, they could put the chart on the disk somewhere, so that we could print it out ourselves as we saw fit, ala the charts for the Med mod.
I haven't used the chart which came with the game since last year.
Mongo76
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Feb 2000
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I would like NOT to use a chart, but my brain is getting old and soft. And I DETEST having to constantly pull up little charts to get my info. When I am planning strategies, I like to look at the BIG picture all at once, not piece together a bunch of pull up charts. And besides, I prefer to hold a cold beer in my non-mouse hand, not this chart!!!
Nemo
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I don't wanna be a Chieftain any more
Apr 99
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A one sided chart (ala civ II) is a good idea - units, wonders, terrain, goods, advances (and whatever i left out) all on one side. While i don't hang it up, by flipping it over, and over, it gets warn way too quickly...the tape went on within days. and i am sure it would be in peices now if CTP I had as much playablility as CTP II seems like it may, or hopes to have
meriadoc
Chieftain

Dec 1999
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You're right - CTP2 needs to come out with a poster, one-sided, to help us keep track of what technologies lead to what. There are just to many for people like me to memorize. Besides, when you have a poster on the wall pronouncing your addiction to CTP you feel someone good about yourself... or at least I do.

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The Electronic Hobbit

LT John
Activision
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We will be including another tech tree poster. We won't be including two charts. I'll look into finding another way to present the data charts, but I think that there are too many stats to fit into the back of the manual in a readily accessible format.
MidKnight Lament
Prince
Melbourne, Australia
May 99
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Thanks again. Consider the chart on my wall already.

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DarthVeda
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I would worry about the damn game more than the stupid wall chart. You know I pre-ordered the first in the understanding that I would receive a wall chart... I got two, one from Electronics Botique and another from Activision :/
VivalaCTP2
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Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sep 2000
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Who needs a tech tree poster? When planning their technological advances, no one in reality knows what they are going to aim for in a thousand years time. I don't use the thing at all, you don't need to if you know what you're doing.
WesW
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quote:

Originally posted by VivalaCTP2 on 09-21-2000 08:32 PM
Who needs a tech tree poster? When planning their technological advances, no one in reality knows what they are going to aim for in a thousand years time. I don't use the thing at all, you don't need to if you know what you're doing.

Well, you need the chart to initially learn what you are doing. Also, if you add a lot of stuff to the game and switch other things around (Med mod), then you need it to keep things straight. I have to use the Med mod's Advances Chart now to make sure I am heading towards what I need at the time, and I designed the mod!

Note to Lt. John;

Gedrin made a version of the Chart that looks just like the one which shipped with the game, though you need Adobe Acrobat to view it. If Activision would ship a similar file with the game it would be great, though the Microsoft file that Morgoth's wife initially made and I customized for the Med mod would be fine as well.
This way, mod-makers would have something to build off of, and normal users could refer to it or/and print out copies as needed when they get worn.
Other stats could be done as well. I am sure that the designers have such files for reference; why not include them in the game when the values are finalized?

Gedrin
Chieftain

Jun 99
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Wes...

There are a few minor mistakes on that.
Like colour coding and I forgot to remove the Alpha Transporter. And the Nuke is in the wrong place...
and the helicopter and cruise missile and balloon and and and... well it's close but was more of an after thought that I put in my XLS so that easy comparisions could be made to the original chart.

I never the original charts anymore...
I mean really...
muskets first then cannons?
Human Genome mapped without the need for computers?
Subneural Ad without mind control?
etc etc etc

Atahualpa
King
of my castle (somewhere in at)
Mar 99
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WesW: I dont like the idea of printing it out on my own! The file should be additional (if at all)!
Letting me printing the chart out is really NOT customer friendly!

Ata

LT John
Activision
Santa Monica, CA
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We could probably release the charts in a PDF format through our web page.

I'm still trying to get the data tables in a booklet format- making some progress- I'll keep you posted.

MidKnight Lament
Prince
Melbourne, Australia
May 99
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Thanks for listening, Lt John. We appreciate it.

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Joe
Warlord
NY NY
Mar 99
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PDF format would be great
slamp
King
Cannes, France
Sep 1999
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Sure it will be great.
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