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			<title>CTP Ratings (29-APR-2001)</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h3>Call to Power -- Play-by-Email Ratings and Rankings</h3>Last Updated: 6-MAY-2001 (updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time) 
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CTP.    .    APOLYTON HANDLE........    CTP...    P.G.    P.G. 
RANK    P    NAME...................    RATING    WIN.    LOSS    NAT.TR 
 
0001    .    MOBIUS.................    23.267    0033    0002    GBR.EN 
0002    .    KLAIR..................    23.206    0027    0000    FRA... 
0003    .    RICK_ELKINS............    22.487  ...]]></description>
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<div><h3><i>Call to Power</i> -- Play-by-Email Ratings and Rankings</h3>Last Updated: 6-MAY-2001 (updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time)<br />
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CTP.    .    APOLYTON HANDLE........    CTP...    P.G.    P.G.<br />
RANK    P    NAME...................    RATING    WIN.    LOSS    NAT.TR<br />
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0001    .    MOBIUS.................    23.267    0033    0002    GBR.EN<br />
0002    .    KLAIR..................    23.206    0027    0000    FRA...<br />
0003    .    RICK_ELKINS............    22.487    0023    0010    USA.NY<br />
0004    .    SWISSY.................    21.895    0018    0003    USA.IL<br />
0005    .    STAVROS................    21.666    0079    0031    GER...<br />
0006    .    BERXPERT...............    21.441    0032    0003    MEX...<br />
0007    P    DEVIL..................    20.927    0005    0002    LAT...<br />
0008    .    SLAMP..................    20.914    0022    0008    FRA...<br />
0009    .    ST_JON.................    20.892    0050    0046    GBR.EN<br />
0010    .    BILHQ..................    20.788    0012    0004    INA...<br />
0011    .    MAX_WEBSTER............    20.624    0016    0011    CAN...<br />
0012    .    ZOBOZEWARRIOR..........    20.611    0018    0006    FRA...<br />
0013    P    VITOLG.................    20.476    0004    0003    ISR...<br />
0014    .    QUINNS.................    20.410    0070    0056    USA.CA<br />
0015    .    FRAZE..................    20.379    0020    0031    GBR...<br />
0016    .    NOTUNCOMMON............    20.358    0018    0011    DEN...<br />
0017    .    JPWW...................    20.055    0016    0003    USA.GA<br />
0018    P    FUZZBALL...............    20.029    0003    0004    AUS...<br />
0019    .    NUKE_BOY...............    19.871    0032    0014    USA.FL<br />
0020    .    FRANSES................    19.796    0030    0023    NED...<br />
0021    .    THEBIRDMAN.............    19.551    0078    0053    DEN...<br />
0022    .    KRALJ_MATJAZ...........    19.503    0041    0013    SLO...<br />
0023    .    KRASH..................    19.493    0015    0012    GBR.EN<br />
0024    .    PAUL...................    19.460    0024    0042    NED...<br />
0025    .    KING_THOR..............    19.442    0038    0072    USA.FL<br />
0026    .    KEYGEN.................    19.217    0018    0018    GRE...<br />
0027    .    LUNG...................    19.215    0021    0018    AUS.SW<br />
0028    .    420....................    19.090    0017    0017    USA.IL<br />
0029    .    SADDAM.................    19.050    0012    0006    USA.WI<br />
0030    P    EOHIAN.................    19.049    0003    0000    USA.CA<br />
0031    .    MAESTRO................    18.592    0004    0010    BEL...<br />
0032    .    ARTHUR.................    18.494    0014    0039    USA.UT<br />
0033    .    DUCK_HUNTER............    18.450    0007    0020    USA.FL<br />
0034    .    YETI...................    18.175    0012    0009    USA.WI<br />
0035    .    DUGRIK.................    18.171    0008    0009    USA.TX<br />
0036    P    BONAPARTE II...........    17.900    0000    0000    USA.NY<br />
0037    .    SOLVER.................    17.798    0018    0042    LAT...<br />
0038    P    ELROND.................    17.750    0000    0000    GER...<br />
0039    .    PHOENIXCAGER...........    17.719    0010    0011    SGP...<br />
0040    .    PN.....................    17.329    0007    0012    GBR.EN<br />
0041    .    DARTH_VIPER............    17.105    0018    0041    NED...<br />
0042    .    THE_TRUE_DEMOSTHENES...    17.041    0006    0057    GBR.EN<br />
0043    .    SYORIS.................    16.898    0004    0006    GBR.EN<br />
0044    .    CUAICH.................    16.782    0004    0008    CAN.ON<br />
P = Provisional.  Player has had less than 10 power graph results.<br />
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<h4>Frequently Asked Questions</h4><b>How do I become rated?</b>  <i>Simply post, to this thread, the highest level of victory that you ever attained, (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, or Deity), in a "single player" game of Call to Power, along with the Nation and Territory that you presently reside.  That's it!  You'll see your name appear on the above list within a week.</i><br />
<b> How do the ratings change?</b>  <i>See the below CTP Ratings Links section for an in depth discussion.</i><br />
<b> On whose turn should the Power Graph be reported?</b> <i>It doesn't matter because the Power Graph remains the same during the cycle of the turn.  However, we recommend that the 1st player (blue) always report the Power Graph results.</i><br />
<br />
<h4> Adjustments to Ratings </h4><b>New Players to Add:</b><br />
<b>Pending *9th Turn Processing:</b> <br />
<b>Pending Elimination:</b>  <br />
<b>Pending Delinquency Adjustment (- 0.1 points):</b><br />
<br />
<H4>Current Rated Games In Progress*:</H4>(Turn rating started in parentheses)<br />
1. <b>R2_Islands</b>(0) - Solver, Fraze, King Thor, Kralj Matjaz, Quinns.<br />
2. <b>Love_Conquers?</b>(50) - St Jon, Mobius, (Keygen), Stavros, Rick Elkins, King Thor.<br />
3. <b>Eagles_at_War</b>(0) - TheBirdMan, Solver, Kralj Matjaz, Notuncommon, Fraze, Krash, Arthur, Quinns.<br />
4. <b>Lung's_Fast</b>(86) - Lung, Stavros, Paul, St Jon, TheBirdMan.<br />
5. <b>Do_Some_PBEM</b>(49) - Solver, TheBirdMan, (Blackice), Paul, Krash, (Stavros).<br />
6.  <b>Fixed_Game</b>(30) - King Thor, Stavros, (PN), Keygen, Quinns.<br />
7. <b>Team_Horses</b>(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, Darth Viper, (Blackice), Quinns, Franses, Nuke Boy.<br />
8. <b>Monkey_1</b>(187) - Yeti, (TheBirdMan), Swissy, (Nuke Boy), Slamp, Paul, (Max Webster), (Fraze).<br />
9. <b>Monkey_2</b>(226) - Yeti, (Max Webster), (Germans - A/I), Lung, Paul, (Zaphod), (TheBirdMan).<br />
10. <b>Conquer!!!</b>(23) - Bilhq, TheBirdMan, (SADDAM), Stavros, Paul, King Thor, (Jafo).<br />
11. <b>Giant_Bird</b>(29) - TheBirdMan, (Stavros), Notuncommon, Franses, Darth Viper, (King Thor).<br />
12. <b>Dutcheese</b>(119) -  (Fraze), TheBirdMan, Klair, Duck_Hunter,  Max_Webster King_Thor, Slamp, St_Jon. <br />
13. <b>Youngbloods</b>(0) - 420, Darth_Viper, Kralj_Matjaz, Phoenixcager, BerXpert, (Blackice).<br />
14. <b>Fly High</b>(29) - TheBirdMan, Notuncommon, Krash, (Fraze), King_Thor, (Arthur), Bilhq.<br />
15. <b>Team Spirit</b>(29) - Stavros, Franses, Keygen, Arthur, Maestro, TheBirdMan, Swissy, King Thor <br />
16. <b>Veterans In Arms</b>(0) - Keygen, TheBirdMan, Paul, Slamp, The_True_Demosthenes, Swissy<br />
17. <b>Young v. Old Blood</b>(0) - Keygen, (Blackice), St_Jon, Yeti, TheBirdMan, 420<br />
18. <b>Youngbloods Gathering</b>(0) - Phoenixcager, (Blackice), 420, BerXpert, Yeti, Saddam<br />
19. <b>Another World</b>(0) - Darth_Viper, Bonaparte_II, 420, Nuke_Boy, Dugrik, Saddam<br />
20. <b>Lungmatch 2.1</b>(66) - Max_Webster, Lung, Arthur<br />
21. <b>Lungmatch 2.2</b>(0) - Keygen, Solver, Swissy<br />
22. <b>Strife</b>(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Nuke_Boy, Cuaich <br />
23. <b>Lungmatch 3.2</b>(8) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, TheBirdMan <br />
24. <b>Swissy2</b>(238) -  The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, Lung, (Moral Hazard)<br />
25. <b>High Voltage</b>(0) - PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Dugrik, BerXpert, Eohian <br />
26. <b>T.N.T.</b>(0) - Fuzzball, Vitolg, DeVil, Nuke Boy, (Blackice), BerXpert<br />
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* A player in parentheses is unrated in that game.<br />
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<h4>Related CTP PBEM Ratings Links</h4><A HREF="http://www.addr.com/~quinns/TENPL639_AM.TXT"><br />
TENPL639_AM </A> ---  Rankings for Apolyton <i>Call to Power</i> Play-by-Email (PBEM). <br />
<A HREF="http://www.addr.com/~quinns/TENPL641_AM.TXT"><br />
TENPL641_AM </A> ---  History of Ratings for Apolyton <i>Call to Power</i> PBEM.<br />
<A HREF="http://www.addr.com/~quinns/TEN619_AM.TXT"><br />
TEN619_AM </A> ---  *9th Turn Game Results for Apolyton <i>Call to Power</i> PBEM.<br />
<A HREF="http://www.addr.com/~quinns/wtr_info_formulas.html"><br />
RATINGS FORMULAS</A> ---  Formulas Used in Determining Ratings Calculations.<br />
<A HREF="http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum10/HTML/000374.html"><br />
PBEM LADDERS thread</A> ---  Early Discussions on the Foundation of the CTP PBEM Rating System.<br />
<A HREF="http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum10/HTML/000569.html?11"><br />
POPULATION GROWTH TABLES</A> ---  CTP City Population Growth Tables.<br />
<br />
<A HREF="http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum10/HTML/000410.html"> POWER GRAPH INTERPRETED</A> --- Discussions on <i>Call to Power</i>'s Power Graph.<br />
<A HREF="http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum10/HTML/000423.html"> <br />
COMPANY, BATTALION, BRIGADE, DIVISION... YIKES</A> --- Discussions on the Standarization of the Groupings of Military Units in CTP.<br />
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<b>TENPL639_AM Report Legend:</b><br />
<br />
NAT.TR - Nation and Territory of Primary Residence.<br />
<br />
PBEM RATING - Starts with an initial value depending upon the highest CtP AI level ever honestly defeated:  Chieftain=14; Warlord=16; Prince=17; King=18; Emperor=19; Deity=21.  This rating changes by winning or losing to other rated players, (at the *9  turn mark every ten turns), while playing "rated" PBEM games.  See the CtP Multiplayer topic "PBEM Ladders" for details on how this rating change is calculated.<br />
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<b>TEN619_AM Report Concepts:</b><br />
<br />
<b>Win/Loss</b> - A Win counts by having a "higher" Power Graph rating at the ten turn mark during a "rated" game.  For example, in a five player game, at the ten turn mark, each player will receive four results - 4 wins and 0 losses, or 3 wins and 1 loss, etc.<br />
<br />
<b>Delinquency</b> -  24 or more hours late counts as a delinquency. Each delinquency deducts -0.1 ratings points from player's rating.<br />
<br />
<b>Inactivity Adjustment</b> - Players will lose 5/100ths of a ratings point (-0.05) for each month they go without a ratings adjustment, (i.e. remain inactive in the ratings for an entire month).<br />
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<b>Elimination Rule</b><br />
<br />
If, in a rated game, a player:<br />
a) resigns; <br />
b) changes status from "rated" to "unrated"; <br />
c) gets annihilated; or <br />
d) gets "next turned" for three turns in a row,<br />
<br />
then every remaining player in that game "DEFEATS" THAT PLAYER THREE TIMES (as measured by the normal ten turn phase defeat).<br />
<br />
For example, in a 5 player game, the first person who gets "eliminated from the ratings in that game" would be "defeated" 12 times (as measured by the normal power graph 10 turn defeat), (3 multiplied by 4 remaining players.) This equates to an average decrease in ratings of about 2 to 3 points for the eliminated player. The second player eliminated would be defeated 9 times (3 multiplied by 3 remaining players), ... etc.<br />
<br />
In the case of resignation or three consecutive "next turns", then that resigned player's civilization will be "next turned" until a replacement player, (either rated or unrated), takes over that civilization's control.<br />
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<b>Alien Life Victory Rule</b><br />
<br />
If a player wins by completing the <b>Alien Project</b>, then that player defeats every remaining player three times.<br />
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<b>Rating Change Table:</b> - (example +2 to -2)<br />
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DIFFERENCE.. RATING<br />
IN RATINGS.. CHANGE (+ for winner, - for loser)<br />
+2.0 ........ 0.083<br />
+1.5 ........ 0.118<br />
+1.0 ........ 0.167<br />
+0.5 ........ 0.222<br />
=0.0 ........ 0.250<br />
-0.5 ........ 0.278<br />
-1.0 ........ 0.333<br />
-1.5 ........ 0.382<br />
-2.0 ........ 0.417<br />
</font><br />
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<b>*** NOTICE TO ALL GAME STARTERS IN RATED GAMES ***</b><br />
<br />
Please post all of your turn *9 power graph results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread). (I don't look at all of the game threads in progress.)<br />
<br />
Also, a reminder that all APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:<br />
1. Official game name;<br />
2. Player list (in turn order) of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please).  Place players that wish to be "unrated" in parentheses;<br />
3. All desired rated players must have a current rating -- (please state their initial rating if they do not have a current rating).<br />
4. The current turn number;<br />
5. The turn number you want the game to become "rated".<br />
<br />
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by quinns (edited May 09, 2001).]</font></div>


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			<description>God I enjoy shredding. Anyone else? What do you shred?</description>
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			<title>Ten hours of Gregorian chants</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Right here, right now, I'm nearly at 4 hours, maybe it's purifying and sanctifying my house. I hope so :trophy: 
 
I live on a ghost-prone sacred site. 
 
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/beYRO4R04-I?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> 
 
I didn't know that much recording was possible unless it was radio :nod:]]></description>
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<div>Right here, right now, I'm nearly at 4 hours, maybe it's purifying and sanctifying my house. I hope so :trophy:<br />
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I live on a ghost-prone sacred site.<br />
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<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/beYRO4R04-I?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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I didn't know that much recording was possible unless it was radio :nod:</div>


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			<title>A Recap of the past few years</title>
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			<description>The essential political difference between what is often referred to as the right and the left lies in a differing vision of what man is capable of through the use of reason alone.  
 
Let us examine the various events of our time in view of this difference. 
 
1. Stimulus spending reflects a faith in centralised planning as a means of increasing economic growth over and above what it would otherwise be if resources were allocated through the market place. And yet the American economy remains...</description>
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<div>The essential political difference between what is often referred to as the right and the left lies in a differing vision of what man is capable of through the use of reason alone. <br />
<br />
Let us examine the various events of our time in view of this difference.<br />
<br />
1. Stimulus spending reflects a faith in centralised planning as a means of increasing economic growth over and above what it would otherwise be if resources were allocated through the market place. And yet the American economy remains largely as it was before in terms of its overall health. What about other nations?<br />
<img src="http://ricardianambivalence.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/stimulus5.png?w=640&amp;h=353" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<a href="http://ricardianambivalence.com/2012/05/11/stimulus-update/" target="_blank">http://ricardianambivalence.com/2012...imulus-update/</a><br />
The conclusion to be drawn is that government-based central planning does not actually do altogether much other than give rise to large incentives for pork barreling and headlines about "projects" that lead to no particular conclusion. Short-term, rushed and with no coherent objective other than to spend, stimulus ends in waste. <br />
<br />
This should not be surprising, as central planning in the Soviet Union was equally an utter failure. Central planning attempted on a smaller scale is no different even if it is referred to nicely as "Keynesian economics".<br />
<br />
<b>Edit</b>: <i>Foreign policy is another aspect of human affairs in which it is often believed that reason alone can induce others to change. If only we are nice to our enemies, they shall be nice to us. Cultural factors, beliefs and traditions, however, are a far more powerful force than reason. Let us examine how the attempt to use reason to create allies of enemies has worked out for the West so far. </i><br />
2. In Libya, the Western fervour for humanitarianism and the belief in our strength as the place of the mighty, the good and the moral overcame any need for a sober analysis of what we were doing and why. The Libyan rebels, of whom we knew little except that they openly cooperated with Al Qaeda, told us civilians were being massacred. Turns out the West was being played for fools. The massacres were not only unconfirmed by independent reports; they were also non-existent.<br />
<br />
Now a Libyan client state is established but can do nothing to protect its own borders as a swathe of Al Qaeda affiliates contest other groups for power. <br />
<br />
Benghazi remains in Ansar Al Sharia's hands and the United States has done nothing before or since the attacks to stop them, other than to hire some of them for consular security before the attacks.<br />
<br />
To make matters worse, an obscure youtube video no one in the Middle East had ever heard of was blamed for the attacks. An outright lie was confected and no one in the US Administration had either the sense or the courage to call it for what it was for weeks on end. The President referred to the attacks as an act of terror, in that it inspired fear, on one occasion early in the piece but refused to acknowledge that it was an act of terrorism. Nor did the rest of administration do so for weeks.<br />
<br />
3. In Egypt, an ally is replaced by the Muslim Brotherhood, a group whom even Obama now acknowledges in "not an ally" of the United States, but whom he has not yet deemed an enemy. Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood terms the United States worthless, attacks Jews as global dominators, and calls for "resistance" against Zionist-American oppression. <br />
<br />
4. Similarly, the United States continues to regard Turkey as an ally notwithstanding that its Islamist government has broken from the Western tradition and now regularly makes anti-Western and anti-semitic comments. Its ambassador to Chad has even described Al Qaeda as not being a terrorist group, without any repercussion. <br />
<br />
5. In Syria, the Administration funded and armed the "moderate" groups without realising that those weapons could fall into the wrong hands. Then they fell into the wrong hands: the hands of Al Qaeda affiliates. Another foreign policy success.<br />
<br />
6. In Gaza, the Administration successfully pressured Israel to weaken sanctions on Gaza. Success! Hamas' hand is stronger as a result.<br />
<br />
7. In Iran, the Administration, via Secretary Kerry, who for years paid visits to Assad and termed him a moderate, now calls for sanctions not to be strengthened lest radicals like the ones that physically slaughtered the moderates in the last election win again. That Kerry seriously believes that Iranian elections mean something, anything, and is premising its policies on that assumption, is about as foolish as his beliefs vis-a-vis Syria. <br />
<br />
8. Did I mention the Administration seriously termed Assad a reformer and held out hope for months that he would back away from mass slaughter? It's like asking Stalin to play nice. What planet are they on?<br />
<br />
9. Did I mention the Administration seriously expects us to believe it's opposed to Iran obtaining nuclear weapons while it (a) appoints officials who support that outcome; (b) believes Iranian elections are legitimate enough to be affected by American sanction policies? <br />
<br />
10. The Boston attackers were let go and no longer watched because they did not express violent views towards the United States in interviews with the FBI, even as they expressed Islamist beliefs and were warned by Russian intelligence about the danger posed by those very attackers. Meanwhile, American training manuals warned not to go too hard on Islamists who did not turn violent. The FBI followed protocol and those mean old Islamists decided to go violent anyway. Well, it wasn't in the manual so how can we blame them for disregarding everything they should know about Islamist terror?<br />
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But as Hillary is wont to say, what difference does it make?  Well, I suppose the people of the Middle East, and the people of Boston, are finding out exactly what difference it makes when an Administration neither knows nor understands its foreign policy priorities, let alone the world around them.</div>


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			<dc:creator>Zevico</dc:creator>
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			<title>How Long Until Israel and Syria Engage?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 06:02:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[We could start a pool on it. I'll take 3 months, August 19th.]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>SlowwHand</dc:creator>
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			<title>Going to see a girl over Memorial Day weekend...</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 01:19:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'll be going to NYC on Saturday to see someone and will be returning on Monday. I'll be spending Saturday and Sunday nights at her place. Any tips so I don't mess things up?]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>Al B. Sure!</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[GUYS... i've made the delicious.]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 00:56:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>self biased</dc:creator>
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			<title>Why do people economize past their reproductive means?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 17:01:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I really don't understand why some people -- particularly people within certain racial/social/religious groups -- choose to economize past their reproductive means to support other races with their hard work? I mean, it isn't a hard concept. If you make $350,000 per year, you really can afford to provide for 4 children. So why not have them? It's a completely ludicrous concept. 
 
And the example I made applies to the Western world, where $350,000 per year is basically not that much. What about...]]></description>
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<div>I really don't understand why some people -- particularly people within certain racial/social/religious groups -- choose to economize past their reproductive means to support other races with their hard work? I mean, it isn't a hard concept. If you make $350,000 per year, you really can afford to provide for 4 children. So why not have them? It's a completely ludicrous concept.<br />
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And the example I made applies to the Western world, where $350,000 per year is basically not that much. What about the Third World? Why is it that we see average birth rates of, for example, 5.54/woman in Afghanistan? What in the world makes our wealthy think they couldn't support that?<br />
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We don't have a white natality crisis -- we have a moron crisis. Until these idiots who choose to economize past their means learn that they shouldn't, then they will continue to die in droves (in the 1st World) or be desperately assimilated by wetbacks. And quite frankly, any religion or religious leader who tries to convince it's followers otherwise is both self serving and criminal.</div>


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			<dc:creator>Oncle Boris</dc:creator>
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			<title>Ben Kenobi!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:03:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*Happy Birthday!!!* 
 
 
:dance:     :woohoo:     :band:     :woohoo:     :dance: 
 
 
:cheers: 
 
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<div><b><span style="font-family: Book Antiqua"><font size="7">Happy Birthday!!!</font></span></b><br />
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:dance:     :woohoo:     :band:     :woohoo:     :dance:<br />
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:cheers:<br />
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			<dc:creator>SlowwHand</dc:creator>
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			<title>Obama has nothing to fear</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 04:42:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[this is the opposition 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JCHDyF3cEg 
 
I am concerned... because Obama can pretty much do whatever he wants up to being an actual nazi 
 
and even then, republican ****tards couldn't be trusted to fight him 
 
all those scumbags would join him]]></description>
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I am concerned... because Obama can pretty much do whatever he wants up to being an actual nazi<br />
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and even then, republican ****tards couldn't be trusted to fight him<br />
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all those scumbags would join him<br />
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I know a collaborator when I see one<br />
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and republicans would be the ones marching us into the ovens, not saving us</div>


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			<dc:creator>Sava</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Proposal to rename the OT the "Ben Forum"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 01:14:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>We seem to spend so much time lately either talking to Ben or about him we might as well just name the whole thing after him. He practically lives here. 
 
I know this will be controversial and there are other contenders so I will post a poll.</description>
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<div>We seem to spend so much time lately either talking to Ben or about him we might as well just name the whole thing after him. He practically lives here.<br />
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I know this will be controversial and there are other contenders so I will post a poll.</div>


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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander's Horse]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Why do people reproduce past their economic means?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:00:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I really don't understand why some people -- particularly people within certain racial/social/religious groups -- choose to reproduce past their economic means to support themselves and their families? I mean, it isn't a hard concept. If you make $35,000 per year, you really can't afford to provide for 4 children. So why have them? It's a completely ludicrous concept. 
 
And the example I made applies to the Western world, where $35,000 per year is basically nothing. What about the Third World?...]]></description>
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<div>I really don't understand why some people -- particularly people within certain racial/social/religious groups -- choose to reproduce past their economic means to support themselves and their families? I mean, it isn't a hard concept. If you make $35,000 per year, you really can't afford to provide for 4 children. So why have them? It's a completely ludicrous concept.<br />
<br />
And the example I made applies to the Western world, where $35,000 per year is basically nothing. What about the Third World? Why is it that we see average birth rates of, for example, 5.54/woman in Afghanistan? What in the world makes them think they can support that?<br />
<br />
We don't have a poverty crisis, or a food crisis, or a potable water crisis -- we have a moron crisis. Until these idiots who choose to reproduce past their means learn that they shouldn't, then they will continue to die in droves (in the 3rd World) or be desperately poor/dependent on the government (in the US/Europe). And quite frankly, any religion or religious leader who tries to convince it's followers otherwise is both self serving and criminal.</div>


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			<dc:creator>David Floyd</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Poker & Day Drinking]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:36:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So, currently I'm playing online poker and day drinking. It's an outstanding day in Austin. 
 
So far I've won 38 hands out of 133 dealt, and 38 out of 61 flops I've seen, on a 6 handed table. I'll take that stat, especially while drinking! Bought in $25, up to around $85 thus far... 
 
Anyone care to join me for some online poker? Playing cheap $.25/$.50 blinds at PlayersOnly.com....]]></description>
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<div>So, currently I'm playing online poker and day drinking. It's an outstanding day in Austin.<br />
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So far I've won 38 hands out of 133 dealt, and 38 out of 61 flops I've seen, on a 6 handed table. I'll take that stat, especially while drinking! Bought in $25, up to around $85 thus far...<br />
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Anyone care to join me for some online poker? Playing cheap $.25/$.50 blinds at PlayersOnly.com....</div>


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			<dc:creator>David Floyd</dc:creator>
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			<title>Soldier Pics</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:24:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Pax</dc:creator>
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